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Revision as of 18:53, 1 March 2023

This page is showing the list of the key calibres in inches into a common units and related penetration of some of the naval shells in roughly the same calibre. This table is meant to give you a rough idea of how much protection does the ship armor give at a typical combat ranges. Going by inches as a base puts some nations in a disadvantage in terms of a number of entries in the table (notably Germans).

AP

Note: A number of guns (notably Japanese) use SAP instead of AP ammunition for the same purpose, but they are not listed here. 30° @ 5000m was selected to illustrate real ranges and hit angles. While not universal (e.g. ≥12" guns rarely shoot at targets so close) it should give you a rough idea about the performance for the shells boiled down to a single number.

inch mm official mm SI calculated Penetration @ 30° @ 5000m TNT equivalent (kg)
3 76 76.2
30mm - 3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)
37mm - 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)
37mm - 34-K (76 mm) with BR-361
37mm - D-56TS (76 mm) with BR-354
30mm
37mm
0.13kg - 3-inch Mark 10 (76 mm)
0.06kg - 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)
0.12kg - 34-K (76 mm) with BR-361
0.05kg - D-56TS (76 mm) with BR-354
0.06kg
0.13kg
4 102 101.6
5 127 127
93mm - 5 inch/51 Mk.7 (127 mm)
86mm - 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)
73mm - 120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)
93mm
86mm
0.77kg - 5 inch/51 Mk.7 (127 mm)
1.3kg - 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)
1.16kg - 120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)
0.77kg
1.30kg
6 152 152.4
100mm - 6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)
145mm - 6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)
146mm - 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)
156mm - 152/55 mm Ansaldo Mod.1934 (152 mm)
158mm - 6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)
177mm - 152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)
100mm
177mm
1.88kg - 6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)
0.9kg - 6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)
0.8kg - 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)
0.84 - 152/55 mm Ansaldo Mod.1934 (152 mm)
0.88kg - 6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)
1.69kg - 152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)
0.80kg
1.88kg
8 203 203.2
214mm - 203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)
218mm - 8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)
227mm - 8 inch/55 Mark 12 (203 mm)
227mm - 20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)
214mm
247mm
3.16kg - 203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)
1.62kg - 8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)
2.21kg - 8 inch/55 Mark 12 (203 mm)
2.65kg - 20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)
1.62kg
3.16kg
12 305 304.8
315mm - 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)
316mm - 12-inch/50 Vickers (305 mm)
275mm - 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)
328mm - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)
286mm - 305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)
419mm - 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)
304mm - 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)
405mm - 305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)
275mm
419mm
12.96kg - 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)
13.64kg - 12-inch/50 Vickers (305 mm)
13.64kg - 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)
11.11kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)
13.64kg - 305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)
18.79kg - 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)
10.8kg - 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)
5.66kg - 305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)
5.66kg
18.79kg
14 356 355.6
415mm - 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm) with Type 91 APC
420mm - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)
415mm
420mm
12.21kg - 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm) with Type 91 APC
11.11kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)
11.11kg
12.21kg
15 381 381
390mm - SK L/45 (380 mm)
416mm - 15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)
390mm
416mm
25kg - SK L/45 (380 mm)
20.68kg - 15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)
20.68kg
25kg

HE

This list a pure HE shells, regardless of any HE-VT/HE-TF. This should give you an idea about the size of the explosive fillers in each of the calibres for when you're writing an articles about the guns or ships. Please, remember that the rate of fire and a number of guns makes a huge difference (use {{User:Jareel_Skaj/DPSGraph}} if you need to compare the pure HE DPS output).

inch mm official mm SI calculated TNT equivalent (kg)
3 76 76.2
0.399kg - 8 cm/60 Type 98
0.48kg - 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type
0.5kg - 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)
0.483kg - 34-K (76 mm) with O-361K
0.621kg - D-56TS (76 mm) with OF-350M
0.53kg - 76 mm/45 QF 3in 20cwt
0.65kg - 76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917
0.399kg
0.65kg
4 102 101.6
0.95kg - 100/65 mm Type 98 mod A
1.21kg - 4 inch/50 Mk.9 (102 mm)
0.93kg - 100 mm/56 B-34 (100 mm)
0.94kg - 100 mm/70 SM-5-1 with OF-55
0.721kg - 4 in QF Mark V (102 mm)
1.55kg - 4 inch/45 Mark XVI (102 mm)
1.3kg - 100 mm/47 O.T.O. Mod. 1928
0.721kg
1.55kg
5 127 127
3.22kg - 5 inch/38 Mk.12 (127 mm)
3.16kg - 120 mm/50 pattern 1905
3.58kg - B-13 (130 mm)
2.39kg - 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936 (120 mm)
1.63kg - 120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 (120 mm)
1.96kg - 5 inch/40 Type 89 (127 mm)
2.31kg - 127 mm/50 3rd Year Type
1.63kg
3.58kg
6 152 152.4
5.28kg - 6-inch/45 Type 41 (152 mm)
0.9kg - 6 inch/47 Mk.16 (152 mm)
7.81kg - 6 inch/50 QF Mark N5 (152 mm)
6kg - 152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)
1.6kg - 150 mm/45 SK L/45 (150 mm)
3.91kg - 15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm)
2.39kg - 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (152 mm)
1.6kg
7.81kg
8 203 203.2
8.03kg - 20 cm 3rd year type No.1 (200 mm)
7.5kg - 203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 (203 mm)
9.5kg - 8 inch/55 Mark 9 (203 mm)
10kg - 8 inch/50 Mark VIII (203 mm)
8.88kg - 20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)
7.5kg
10kg
12 305 304.8
55.41kg - 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm) with HE patt.1928
27kg - 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)
37.82kg - 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)
33.25kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)
53.13kg - 305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)
55.41kg - 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)
31kg - 305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909 (305 mm)
27kg
55.41kg
14 356 355.6
32.45kg - 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)
33.25kg - 12 inch/50 Mk.7 (305 mm)
32.45kg
33.25kg
15 381 381
67.1kg - SK L/45 (380 mm)
67.1kg
67.1kg

Drachinifel's Historic Naval Gun Ranking

Battleship gun ranking system created by the British naval historian Alexander Clarke. It's meant to rank the real-world capabilities of various naval guns used as a primary batteries of battleships. It takes the following characteristics into account: rate of fire, weight of shell, range of the gun (as of WW2), Armor-Piercing capability (@20 000 yards), weight of the bursting charge, any special pros/cons.

Pre-1930

6,5/10
0

France flag.png 30 cm/45 Model 1906-1910 (300 mm)
USA flag.png 12-inch/45 Mk.3/Mk.4 (305 mm)
USA flag.png 14 inch/45 Mk.1 - Mk.5 (356 mm)
France flag.png 34 cm/45 Model 1912 (340 mm)
IJN flag.png 36 cm/45 Type 41 (356 mm)
USA flag.png 16 inch/45 Mark 1 (406 mm)
IJN flag.png 41 cm/45 3rd Year Type (410 mm)
Britain flag.png 16 inch/45 Mark I (406 mm)

Post-1930

7,1/10
0

Kingdom Italy flag.png 320 mm/46 Ansaldo model 1936 (320 mm)
Britain flag.png 14-inch/45 Mark VII (356 mm)
France flag.png 330 mm/50 model 1931 (330 mm)
Kingdom Italy flag.png 381 mm/50 model 1934 (381 mm)
Germany flag.png 38 cm/52 SK C/34 (380 mm)
USA flag.png 16-inch/45 Mark 6 (406 mm)
France flag.png 380 mm/45 model 1935 (380 mm)
USA flag.png 16-inch/50 Mark 7 (406 mm)
IJN flag.png 40 cm/40 Type 94 (460 mm)
Msg-important.png Do not compare the score between pre-1930 and post-1930 guns. They are on a different scale. Each category (e.g. weight of the shell) is scored in relation to the rest of the group. Also pre-1930 scores use absolute range (which is largely a function of a turret) while post-1930 scores use a new, revised system where range is taken at the 20° gun elevation (reflecting more of a capability of the gun itself).