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* Access up to 8x 9M39 Igla missiles, good for dealing against helicopters and slow aircrafts
 
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* GUV-8700 and GSh-23L gunpod offer extra firepower.
 
* GUV-8700 and GSh-23L gunpod offer extra firepower.
 
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* ATGM firing angle is slightly akward. Have to pitch nose down slightly if in a hover to launch
 
* ATGM firing angle is slightly akward. Have to pitch nose down slightly if in a hover to launch
 
* Lacks Thermals and NVD for the gunner
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 04:22, 17 November 2023

VTOL | Rank 5 USA
AV-8A Harrier Pack
Mi-8AMTSh
mi_8amtsh.png
GarageImage Mi-8AMTSh.jpg
Mi-8AMTSh
AB RB SB
10.0 9.7 9.7
Research:360 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:980 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Mi-8AMTSh is a rank VI Soviet attack helicopter with a battle rating of 10.0 (AB) and 9.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Kings of Battle".

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 1 000 m285 km/h
Max altitude4 950 m
Engine2 х Klimov TV3-117VM
Take-off weight12 t

Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at _,___ m)
Max altitude
(metres)
AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 4950
Upgraded ___ ___

Survivability and armour

Crew3 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear420 km/h

Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB8 746 → 12 734 Sl icon.png
RB3 803 → 5 537 Sl icon.png
SB5 274 → 7 678 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications275 000 Rp icon.png
420 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 300 Ge icon.png
Crew training280 000 Sl icon.png
Experts980 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces830 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 280 / 420 % Sl icon.png
208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods cd 98 main rotor.png
Replacing helicopter blades
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods heli flak jacket.png
Flak jacket
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods heli structure.png
Helicopter frame
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods night vision device.png
NVD
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS(a)
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
pkt_new_gun
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods gunpods.png
Gun pod GUV-8700
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
ZB-500
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
310 Ge icon.png
Mods gunpods.png
Gun pod UPK-23-250
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
gunGShG_new_gun
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-100
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
ns23_belt_pack
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
YaK-B_new_gun
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-250
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
21 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods atgm heli preset.png
RP-2-149TK/2
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
9M39
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-500
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Night vision devices
Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.

Offensive armament

Main article: PKT (7.62 mm)

The Mi-8AMTSh is armed with:

  • 1 x 7.62 mm PKT machine gun, nose turret (1,750 rpg)
  • 128 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

The Mi-8AMTSh can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

Default weapon presets
  • 2 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine guns (750 rpg = 1,500 total) + 4 x 7.62 mm GShG-7.62 machine guns (1,800 rpg = 7,200 total)
  • 6 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,500 total)
  • 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
  • 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles
  • 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
  • 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
  • 120 x S-8KO rockets
  • 6 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (600 kg total)
  • 6 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (1,500 kg total)
  • 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
  • 2 x 500 kg ZB-500 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

With the Mi-8AMTSh recieving better long ranged armament, countermeasures, and a ballistics computer, along with an engine upgrade, the Mi-8AMTSh is a good support helicopter to go along in your lineup.

In Ground RB, the Mi-8AMTSh is effective for both stand off engagements and rushing into the battle first spawn. The Mi-8AMTSh can carry up to 120x S-8K rockets, which are effective with dealing any armored targets when launching them in salvos, along with the added ballistics computer, hitting accurate shots from distances is easier to do with rockets. The uprated engines also allow it to pick up speeds quicker and is less prone to stalling its engines. The Mi-8 is a big helicopter overall, with the design originally being a transport helicopter. Mobility will still be mediocre and multiple machine gun and autocannon fire will easily defeat the Mi-8, along with being prone to pilot snipes.

For standoff engagements, the outermost pylons can take up to 4x 9M114 Shturm ATGMs on each pylon, for a total of 8x ATGMs which are good for dealing damage against ground targets overall from a distance. Prioritize SPAAs and Anti Air that are trying to target you. For defending against air targets, you can equip up to 4x 9M39 Igla missiles on the middle pylons, for a total up to 8x Igla missiles. These missiles are very flare resistant, but are more suited to deal with helicopters, though they can still take down air targets, despite its manueverability being subpar. The best way to use them is to catch the enemy off guard in their attack run or in their low energy state at a medium range distance. If the aircraft does spot you, try to use the Iglas to ward them off and deter them from attacking you, or for you to get a better launch angle. It is ideal to bring a GUV-8700 gunpod or GSh-23L to deal with air targets overall, as the single PKT is not ideal for engaging jets.

The Mi-8AMTSh does lack HIRSS, RWR and IRCM Dazzler than its Mi-24 cousins so be on the look out for any anti aircraft vehicles that are trying to target you. Without HIRSS, heat seeking missiles will have an easier time locking you on, along with radar missile systems not giving a lock warning due to the lack of RWR. It is best to preflare when dealing with heat seaking anti-air over the battlefield

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Better, powerful uprated engines over the previous variant. Higher top speed
  • Access to 128x countermeasures
  • Improved, versatile armament than its predecessor
  • Access to ballistics computer
  • Access up to 8x 9114M Shturm missiles that can be fired up to 5 km away
  • Access up to 8x 9M39 Igla missiles, good for dealing against helicopters and slow aircrafts
  • GUV-8700 and GSh-23L gunpod offer extra firepower.

Cons:

  • Lacks RWR, HIRSS and IRCM Dazzler unlike its Mi-24 cousins
  • Downgraded to 7.62mm PKT for machine gun. Subpar for dealing with targets overall
  • Big recognizable profile
  • Sluggish mobility when manuevering
  • Crew closely grouped together
  • ATGM firing angle is slightly akward. Have to pitch nose down slightly if in a hover to launch
  • Lacks Thermals and NVD for the gunner

History

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Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the helicopter;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant
Attack  Mi-4AV
  Mi-8AMTSh · Mi-8TV
  Mi-24A · Mi-24P · Mi-24V
  Mi-28N · Mi-28NM
  Mi-35M
Export  ◊Mi-8TB
  ▂Mi-24D · ◔Mi-24D · ◔Mi-24V · ◔Mi-24P · ◊Mi-24P · ◄Mi-24P HFS 80
  Mi-28A

USSR helicopters
Attack 
Hound  Mi-4AV
Hip  Mi-8AMTSh · Mi-8TV
Hind  Mi-24A · ▂Mi-24D · Mi-24P · Mi-24V · Mi-35M
Havoc  Mi-28N · Mi-28NM
Helix  Ka-29
Hokum  Ka-50 · Ka-52