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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_M.B.162.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''M.B.162''' is a Rank III French frontline bombers with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].  
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French frontline bombers {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].  
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* No armour plating
 
* No armour plating
* No armour glazing
 
 
* Six total self-sealing fuel tanks located in wings
 
* Six total self-sealing fuel tanks located in wings
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Suspended armament ===
 
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
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{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
* 1 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (500 RPG = 1,000 total)
 
 
* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, dorsal turret (120 RPG)
 
* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, dorsal turret (120 RPG)
 
* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, ventral turret (120 RPG)
 
* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, ventral turret (120 RPG)
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* 1 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (500 RPG = 1,000 total)
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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The M.B. 162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 5-6 km in altitude, to protect yourself from German fighters that will climb to intercept you, and mark out a bomb target to your team. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base.
 
The M.B. 162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 5-6 km in altitude, to protect yourself from German fighters that will climb to intercept you, and mark out a bomb target to your team. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base.
  
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
 
* Powerful Hispano 404 cannons in dorsal and ventral turrets
 
* Powerful Hispano 404 cannons in dorsal and ventral turrets
* Effective bomb payload for its BR
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* Effective bomb payload
 
* Respectable speed for a heavy bomber
 
* Respectable speed for a heavy bomber
 
* Good max altitude
 
* Good max altitude
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* Turrets cannot turn 360 degrees
 
* Turrets cannot turn 360 degrees
 
* HS.404 cannons have low ammunition count
 
* HS.404 cannons have low ammunition count
* No turrets protecting the front, perpendicular sides, or directly vertical.
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* No turrets protecting the front, perpendicular sides, or directly vertical
  
 
== History ==
 
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The M.B.162 was derived from the original civilian airliner Bloch M.B. 160 already in service and was built as mail plane by the Société des Avions Marcel Bloch. '''Société des Avions Marcel Bloch''' was a French aircraft manufacturer of both military and civilian aircraft which changed its name to Dassault Aviation after the end of World War II. The company was originally founded by Marcel Bloch (hence "MB" in the aircraft designations) who, after the war changed his name to Marcel Dassault.</ref>, the Bloch M.B. 162 shares very few common points with his civilian counterpart, especially concerning its wings<ref>"L’avion [MB 161], de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente."[https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/#]</ref>.
 
The M.B.162 was derived from the original civilian airliner Bloch M.B. 160 already in service and was built as mail plane by the Société des Avions Marcel Bloch. '''Société des Avions Marcel Bloch''' was a French aircraft manufacturer of both military and civilian aircraft which changed its name to Dassault Aviation after the end of World War II. The company was originally founded by Marcel Bloch (hence "MB" in the aircraft designations) who, after the war changed his name to Marcel Dassault.</ref>, the Bloch M.B. 162 shares very few common points with his civilian counterpart, especially concerning its wings<ref>"L’avion [MB 161], de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente."[https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/#]</ref>.
  
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Unfortunately, the first flight of the M.B.162 wasn't until the 1st of June 1940<ref>"La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch."[https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/#]</ref> and it never saw combat during the Battle of France (10 May to 25 June 1940). With the fall of France, the prototype of the M.B.162 fell into the Luftwaffe's hands and was used as transport aircraft for the rest of the ware. After the war, the aircraft was returned to the French who utilised it in the Armée de l'Air and became the origin of the SNCASE Languedoc (post-war airliner, used for hypersonic experimentations).
 
Unfortunately, the first flight of the M.B.162 wasn't until the 1st of June 1940<ref>"La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch."[https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/#]</ref> and it never saw combat during the Battle of France (10 May to 25 June 1940). With the fall of France, the prototype of the M.B.162 fell into the Luftwaffe's hands and was used as transport aircraft for the rest of the ware. After the war, the aircraft was returned to the French who utilised it in the Armée de l'Air and became the origin of the SNCASE Languedoc (post-war airliner, used for hypersonic experimentations).
  
Two versions of this plane: the MB.162.01 (prototype, one built) and the MB.162 Bn.5 (Production model, never produced).
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Two versions of this plane existed: the MB.162.01 (prototype, one built) and the MB.162 Bn.5 (Production model, never produced).
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
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''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
  
 
=== Camouflages : ===
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/698043/en/ German Camouflage of the captured M.B.162 by MrSpacemau5] [Semi-Historical]  
 
* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/698043/en/ German Camouflage of the captured M.B.162 by MrSpacemau5] [Semi-Historical]  
  
== Read also ==
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== See also ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
 
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/# Dassault Aviation official page] concerning the aircraft
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* [[Wikipedia:Bloch_MB.162|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Bloch MB.162]]
  
* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/# Dassault Aviation official page] concerning the aircraft
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{{France bombers}}
* [[wikipedia:Bloch_MB.162|Wikipedia page]]
 

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Description

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The M.B.162 is a rank III French frontline bombers with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ?  ?,000  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ???
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,000 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ?  ?,000  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.?  ?

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
 ???  ???  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • No armour plating
  • Six total self-sealing fuel tanks located in wings

Armaments

Suspended armament

The M.B.162 can be configured with the following payloads:

  • 6 x 100 kg №.1 bombs + 6 x 200 kg №.1 bombs (1,800 kg = total)
  • 4 x 500 kg №.2 bombs (2,000 kg = total)

Defensive armament

The M.B.162 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, dorsal turret (120 RPG)
  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, ventral turret (120 RPG)
  • 1 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (500 RPG = 1,000 total)

Usage in battles

The M.B. 162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 5-6 km in altitude, to protect yourself from German fighters that will climb to intercept you, and mark out a bomb target to your team. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Automatic pitch
Controllable Not controllable Combined Controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
IA
II
III
IV

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful Hispano 404 cannons in dorsal and ventral turrets
  • Effective bomb payload
  • Respectable speed for a heavy bomber
  • Good max altitude

Cons:

  • Turrets cannot turn 360 degrees
  • HS.404 cannons have low ammunition count
  • No turrets protecting the front, perpendicular sides, or directly vertical

History

The M.B.162 was derived from the original civilian airliner Bloch M.B. 160 already in service and was built as mail plane by the Société des Avions Marcel Bloch. Société des Avions Marcel Bloch was a French aircraft manufacturer of both military and civilian aircraft which changed its name to Dassault Aviation after the end of World War II. The company was originally founded by Marcel Bloch (hence "MB" in the aircraft designations) who, after the war changed his name to Marcel Dassault.</ref>, the Bloch M.B. 162 shares very few common points with his civilian counterpart, especially concerning its wings[1].

The aircraft in game represents a heavy bomber created by Henri Déplante and Lucien Servanty in order to satisfy the A20 program concerning a category B5 bomber, which had a crew of 5 persons utilised for both day and night bombing. Three M.B.162s were ordered into production in 1937.

Unfortunately, the first flight of the M.B.162 wasn't until the 1st of June 1940[2] and it never saw combat during the Battle of France (10 May to 25 June 1940). With the fall of France, the prototype of the M.B.162 fell into the Luftwaffe's hands and was used as transport aircraft for the rest of the ware. After the war, the aircraft was returned to the French who utilised it in the Armée de l'Air and became the origin of the SNCASE Languedoc (post-war airliner, used for hypersonic experimentations).

Two versions of this plane existed: the MB.162.01 (prototype, one built) and the MB.162 Bn.5 (Production model, never produced).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

Camouflages :

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France bombers
Farman  F.222.2 · N.C.223.3
Potez  Potez 633
Liore et Olivier  LeO 451 early · LeO 451 late
Bloch  M.B.174A-3 · M.B.162 · M.B.175T
American  V-156-F · Martin 167-A3 · ▄A-35B · ▄SB2C-5 · ▄PB4Y-2

  1. "L’avion [MB 161], de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente."[1]
  2. "La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch."[2]