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{{Specs-Card|code=it_otobreda_sidam_25}} | {{Specs-Card|code=it_otobreda_sidam_25}} | ||
+ | {{About | ||
+ | | about = Italian SPAA '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
+ | | usage = the version equipped with [[Mistral SATCP]] missiles | ||
+ | | link = SIDAM 25 (Mistral) | ||
+ | }} | ||
== Description == | == Description == | ||
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | [[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | ||
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− | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened to '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened to '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]]. |
− | The SIDAM 25 is an optronics-aimed SPAA equipped with | + | The SIDAM 25 is an optronics-aimed SPAA equipped with 4 x 25 mm Oerlikon KBA cannons with the ability to fire HEI-T* and APDS rounds. Because of the high fire density, this SPAA is able to destroy planes within seconds and just needing a few rounds to hit their target. The M792 belt rounds (HEI-T*) contain a TNT equivalent of 54.4 grams in each projectile, and have a high muzzle velocity of 1,100 m/s, making target leading much easier. However, because of the lack of armour-penetrating rounds in the standard belts, your maximum penetration remains 3 mm until you get the M791 belt (APDS). Once the M791 belt is unlocked, defeating tanks will be much easier, given the 81 mm of penetration at 10 metres, and a muzzle velocity of 1,345 m/s. The potential is however severely limited by the maximum capacity of 660 rounds (165 per gun). Overall, be very careful with your ammunition considering the fire rate and the small ammunition capacity. 4 x 550 rpm and a maximum of 660 rounds means you have about 18 seconds of continuous fire available. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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− | {{tankMobility|abMinHp= 301|rbMinHp= 188}} | + | {{tankMobility|abMinHp=301|rbMinHp=188}} |
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
=== Main armament === | === Main armament === | ||
− | <!--''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the | + | <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' --> |
{{main|Oerlikon KBA (25 mm)}} | {{main|Oerlikon KBA (25 mm)}} | ||
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− | ! colspan=" | + | ! colspan="6" | [[Oerlikon KBA (25 mm)|25 mm Oerlikon KBA]] (x4) || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds) |
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− | + | ! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer | |
+ | ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced | ||
+ | ! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced | ||
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− | ! | + | ! ''Arcade'' |
+ | | rowspan="2" | 660 (150) || rowspan="2" | 550 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+87° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ | ||
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− | + | ==== Ammunition ==== | |
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics | ! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics | ||
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ||
− | ! rowspan="2 | + | ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead |
− | ! colspan="6" | '''Penetration | + | ! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)''' |
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− | ! | + | ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m |
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− | | | + | | M792 || HEI-T || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 |
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+ | | M791 || APDS || 81 || 80 || 76 || 70 || 66 || 61 | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
− | ! colspan=" | + | ! colspan="10" | Shell details |
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ||
− | ! rowspan="2 | + | ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br | + | ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s) |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br | + | ! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg) |
− | ! rowspan="2" | | + | ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m) |
− | + | ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm) | |
− | ! rowspan="2" | | + | ! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g) |
− | + | ! colspan="3" | Ricochet | |
− | ! rowspan="2" | | + | |- |
− | + | ! 0% !! 50% !! 100% | |
− | ! colspan="3" | | ||
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− | + | | M792 || HEI-T || 1,100 || 0.50 || N/A || 0.1 || 54.4 || 79° || 80° || 81° | |
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− | | | + | | M791 || APDS || 1,345 || 0.13 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 75° || 78° || 80° |
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− | + | ==== [[Ammo racks]] ==== | |
− | {| class="wikitable | + | <!-- [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]] --> |
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
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− | ! | + | ! Full<br>ammo |
− | ! | + | ! 1st<br>rack empty |
− | ! | + | ! 2nd<br>rack empty |
− | ! | + | ! 3rd<br>rack empty |
− | ! | + | ! 4th<br>rack empty |
− | ! | + | ! 5th<br>rack empty |
+ | ! 6th<br>rack empty | ||
+ | ! Visual<br>discrepancy | ||
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===Sensors=== | ===Sensors=== | ||
{{main|3JB10}} | {{main|3JB10}} | ||
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The SIDAM 25 is equipped with a [[3JB10]] optronic tracking system, with no search radar. The tracking system does not trigger the radar warning receiver fitted to some helicopters. | The SIDAM 25 is equipped with a [[3JB10]] optronic tracking system, with no search radar. The tracking system does not trigger the radar warning receiver fitted to some helicopters. | ||
{{Notice|Although the tracker can track targets in an elevation range of -20°/+85° once locked on, it can only initially lock on to targets between -20°/+20° in elevation.}} | {{Notice|Although the tracker can track targets in an elevation range of -20°/+85° once locked on, it can only initially lock on to targets between -20°/+20° in elevation.}} | ||
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− | == Usage in | + | == Usage in battles == |
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' | ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' | ||
− | ===Modules=== | + | === Modules === |
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
! Tier | ! Tier | ||
− | ! colspan="2" |Mobility | + | ! colspan="2" | Mobility |
! Protection | ! Protection | ||
− | ! colspan="2" |Firepower | + | ! colspan="2" | Firepower |
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| I | | I | ||
− | | Tracks | + | | Tracks |
+ | | | ||
| Parts | | Parts | ||
− | | Horizontal Drive | + | | Horizontal Drive |
+ | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| II | | II | ||
− | | Suspension | + | | Suspension |
+ | | Brake System | ||
| FPE | | FPE | ||
− | | Adjustment of Fire | + | | Adjustment of Fire |
+ | | | ||
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| III | | III | ||
− | | Filters | + | | Filters |
+ | | | ||
| Crew Replenishment | | Crew Replenishment | ||
− | | Elevation | + | | Elevation Mechanism |
+ | | M791 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| IV | | IV | ||
− | | Transmission | + | | Transmission |
− | | | + | | Engine |
− | | Artillery Support| | + | | |
+ | | Artillery Support | ||
+ | | Laser rangefinder | ||
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|} | |} | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * Has an | + | * Has an optronic tracking system allowing targets to be tracked and providing a lead indicator |
* Optronic system cannot be detected by radar trackers on enemy helicopters, making it much easier for you to target them | * Optronic system cannot be detected by radar trackers on enemy helicopters, making it much easier for you to target them | ||
* 550 RPM on the 25 mm guns, a combined 2200 RPM | * 550 RPM on the 25 mm guns, a combined 2200 RPM | ||
* Two-axis stabilizer which is very stable | * Two-axis stabilizer which is very stable | ||
* Incredibly quick turret traverse and gun elevation | * Incredibly quick turret traverse and gun elevation | ||
− | * APDS can penetrate | + | * APDS can penetrate 81 mm, plenty to defend against enemy vehicles (once it is unlocked) |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * Thin | + | * Thin armour, can be hull-broken |
* Relatively poor zoom/magnification, harder to spot small targets at range (especially scout helicopters) | * Relatively poor zoom/magnification, harder to spot small targets at range (especially scout helicopters) | ||
* APDS rounds are a tier 3 modification - until then, anti-armour work is not possible given the low penetration of the HE rounds | * APDS rounds are a tier 3 modification - until then, anti-armour work is not possible given the low penetration of the HE rounds | ||
* Not very mobile compared to other tanks and SPAA at its rank | * Not very mobile compared to other tanks and SPAA at its rank | ||
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* No search radar - only optronic targeting, meaning you need to have a visible target to lock on, and a clear line-of-sight to track it | * No search radar - only optronic targeting, meaning you need to have a visible target to lock on, and a clear line-of-sight to track it | ||
* Can only lock-on to targets -20°/+20° in elevation | * Can only lock-on to targets -20°/+20° in elevation | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
− | ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== | + | ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' |
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
− | <!--Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | + | <!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' |
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | ||
− | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.--> | + | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> |
Other vehicles based off the M113 platform: | Other vehicles based off the M113 platform: | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''encyclopedia page on the tank;'' | * ''encyclopedia page on the tank;'' |
Revision as of 22:17, 24 June 2020
Contents
This page is about the Italian SPAA SIDAM 25. For the version equipped with Mistral SATCP missiles, see SIDAM 25 (Mistral). |
Description
The Sistema Italiano Difesa Aerea Mobile, 25mm (shortened to SIDAM 25) is a rank VI Italian self-propelled anti-aircraft gun
with a battle rating of 8.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".
The SIDAM 25 is an optronics-aimed SPAA equipped with 4 x 25 mm Oerlikon KBA cannons with the ability to fire HEI-T* and APDS rounds. Because of the high fire density, this SPAA is able to destroy planes within seconds and just needing a few rounds to hit their target. The M792 belt rounds (HEI-T*) contain a TNT equivalent of 54.4 grams in each projectile, and have a high muzzle velocity of 1,100 m/s, making target leading much easier. However, because of the lack of armour-penetrating rounds in the standard belts, your maximum penetration remains 3 mm until you get the M791 belt (APDS). Once the M791 belt is unlocked, defeating tanks will be much easier, given the 81 mm of penetration at 10 metres, and a muzzle velocity of 1,345 m/s. The potential is however severely limited by the maximum capacity of 660 rounds (165 per gun). Overall, be very careful with your ammunition considering the fire rate and the small ammunition capacity. 4 x 550 rpm and a maximum of 660 rounds means you have about 18 seconds of continuous fire available.
General info
Survivability and armour
Armour type:
- Aluminium Alloy 7039
- Structural steel
- Gun Steel (Cannons)
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
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Hull | 38 mm (46°), 29 mm (46°) Front glacis 38 mm (25°) Lower glacis |
44 mm Top 32 mm Bottom |
38 mm (10°) | 38 mm (89°) Front 38 mm (89°) Rear |
Turret | 38 mm (24°) Turret front 25 mm (1°) Gun mantlet |
25 mm (0°) | 25 mm (1°) | 25 mm (89°) |
Mobility
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
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Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 70 | 17 | 14.3 | 301 | 404 | 21.05 | 28.25 |
Realistic | 65 | 15 | 188 | 212 | 13.15 | 14.83 |
Armaments
Main armament
25 mm Oerlikon KBA (x4) | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | ||||||||||||
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Mode | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
Arcade | 660 (150) | 550 | -5°/+87° | ±180° | Two-plane | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
Realistic | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
M792 | HEI-T | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
M791 | APDS | 81 | 80 | 76 | 70 | 66 | 61 |
Shell details | |||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile Mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
M792 | HEI-T | 1,100 | 0.50 | N/A | 0.1 | 54.4 | 79° | 80° | 81° |
M791 | APDS | 1,345 | 0.13 | N/A | N/A | N/A | 75° | 78° | 80° |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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__ | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ |
Sensors
The SIDAM 25 is equipped with a 3JB10 optronic tracking system, with no search radar. The tracking system does not trigger the radar warning receiver fitted to some helicopters.
Although the tracker can track targets in an elevation range of -20°/+85° once locked on, it can only initially lock on to targets between -20°/+20° in elevation. |
3JB10 - Optronic Tracking System | ||||
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Maximum Tracking Range |
Minimum Tracking Range |
Azimuth Tracking Angle |
Elevation Tracking Angle |
Minimum target speed |
5,000 m | 100 m | 360° | -20°/+85° (lock between -20°/+20°) |
1 m/s (3.6 km/h) |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Modules
Tier | Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
I | Tracks | Parts | Horizontal Drive | ||
II | Suspension | Brake System | FPE | Adjustment of Fire | |
III | Filters | Crew Replenishment | Elevation Mechanism | M791 | |
IV | Transmission | Engine | Artillery Support | Laser rangefinder |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Has an optronic tracking system allowing targets to be tracked and providing a lead indicator
- Optronic system cannot be detected by radar trackers on enemy helicopters, making it much easier for you to target them
- 550 RPM on the 25 mm guns, a combined 2200 RPM
- Two-axis stabilizer which is very stable
- Incredibly quick turret traverse and gun elevation
- APDS can penetrate 81 mm, plenty to defend against enemy vehicles (once it is unlocked)
Cons:
- Thin armour, can be hull-broken
- Relatively poor zoom/magnification, harder to spot small targets at range (especially scout helicopters)
- APDS rounds are a tier 3 modification - until then, anti-armour work is not possible given the low penetration of the HE rounds
- Not very mobile compared to other tanks and SPAA at its rank
- No search radar - only optronic targeting, meaning you need to have a visible target to lock on, and a clear line-of-sight to track it
- Can only lock-on to targets -20°/+20° in elevation
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Other vehicles based off the M113 platform:
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the tank;
- other literature.
Italy anti-aircraft vehicles | |
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R3 Capraia | R3 T20 FA-HS |
SIDAM 25 | SIDAM 25 · SIDAM 25 (Mistral) |
Wheeled | AS 42 · CM52 |
Tracked | M42 Contraereo · Leopard 40/70 · OTOMATIC |
Hungary | ◔ZSU-57-2 · ◔ZSU-23-4 |