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| − | SUB-I-II has no notable armour | + | The SUB-I-II has no notable armour. It is dangerous to stand in the open without cover as the SPAA can be penetrated by any tank or plane. The survivability of this SPAA is very low if any enemy has a direct line of sight on it. |
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ||
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| − | | Hull || 20 mm (52°) ''Front glacis'' | + | | Hull || 20 mm (52°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 20 mm (24-60°) Lower ''glacis'' || 12.7 mm ''Top'' <br>12.7 mm ''Bottom'' || Non door 20 (7°) mm <br> Door 20 (4-61°) mm || 10 mm |
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| − | Door 20 (4-61°) mm | ||
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| − | | Turret || 20 (0-88°) mm | + | | Turret || 20 (0-88°) mm || 20 (0-88°) mm || 20 mm |
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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| + | * High rate of fire | ||
| + | * Amphibious | ||
| + | * Can penetrate some medium tanks from the side | ||
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| + | * Low survivability | ||
| + | * Slow speed in water | ||
| + | * Low ammo count | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
Revision as of 23:01, 27 February 2023
Contents
Description
The Mitsubishi SUB-I-II is a rank IV Japanese SPAA with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Apex Predators".
General info
Survivability and armour
The SUB-I-II has no notable armour. It is dangerous to stand in the open without cover as the SPAA can be penetrated by any tank or plane. The survivability of this SPAA is very low if any enemy has a direct line of sight on it.
Tactics
When hunting for planes should always have some sort of cover to hide behind for when a plane retaliates. When shooting you should also be mindful of the gun overheating and using all of the belts as the sub-I-II has only 800 shells at max. If possible try to remain near a friendly capture point to re-stock on ammo-belts when they run out because the main canon can shoot 800 r/min .
Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.
Armour type:
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | 20 mm (52°) Front glacis 20 mm (24-60°) Lower glacis |
12.7 mm Top 12.7 mm Bottom |
Non door 20 (7°) mm Door 20 (4-61°) mm |
10 mm |
| Turret | 20 (0-88°) mm | 20 (0-88°) mm | 20 mm | |
| Cupola | 15 mm | 15 mm | 15 mm | 15 mm |
Notes:
Mobility
The SUB-I-II has a modest top reverse speed in RB of -12 km/h so bear that in mind when choosing a good spot to shoot from.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 65 | 17 | 13.5 | _,___ | 668 | __.__ | 49.48 |
| Realistic | 60 | 15 | _,___ | 350 | __.__ | 25.93 | |
Modifications and economy
| Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Main armament
Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: {{main|Name of the weapon}}. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.
| 20 mm Rh202 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 800 (100) | 800 | -10°/+80° | ±180° | N/A | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
| Realistic | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | |||||||||
Ammunition
- Default: HVAP-T · HEFI-T
- DM51A1: HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HVAP-T
- DM43: HVAP-T · HVAP-T · HVAP-T · HEFI-T
- DM63: APDS · APDS · APDS · HEFI-T
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| HVAP-T | 57 | 52 | 37 | 24 | 15 | 10 | |
| HEFI-T | 7 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | |
| APDS | 66 | 61 | 45 | 31 | 21 | 14 | |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| HVAP-T | 1,100 | 0.11 | - | - | - | 66° | 70° | 72° | ||||
| HEFI-T | 1,100 | 0.13 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 11.05 | 79° | 80° | 81° | ||||
| APDS | 1,150 | 0.13 | - | - | - | 75° | 78° | 80° | ||||
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ |
Machine guns
Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.
| 7.62 mm M1919A4 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| ___ (___) | ___ | __° | __° | |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- High rate of fire
- Amphibious
- Can penetrate some medium tanks from the side
Cons:
- Low survivability
- Slow speed in water
- Low ammo count
History
Development of the Type 73 APC started in 1967 as a replacement for the Type 60 APC (chassis of the Type 60 ATM). Four prototypes were made during the development, two from Mitsubishi (SUB-I-I and SUB-I-II) and two from Komatsu (SUB-II-I and SUB-II-II). The 20 mm Rh202 version got rejected at last.
Media
- Skins
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
| Japan anti-aircraft vehicles | |
|---|---|
| Ke-Ni Derivatives | Ta-Se · So-Ki |
| Wheeled | Type 94 |
| Tracked | SUB-I-II |
| Radar SPAAG | Type 87 |
| Missile SPAA | Type 93 · Type 81 (C) |
| USA | ▅M16 MGMC · ▅M19A1 · ▅M42 |
