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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| + | '''75 mm/50 model 1922''' is a French naval gun. Used primarily as a secondary gun, historically it had a very different features than these implemented in the game, being a dedicated anti-air gun with time fused shells and excellent vertical guidance. | ||
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
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| + | Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire. One important issue with the gun is its lacklustre vertical guidance, severely limiting its anti-air potential. | ||
| + | {{Naval 76mm HE}} | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| + | The gun is present on only one ship - [[Duguay-Trouin]] - it can be used as a supplementary fire while the main guns are reloading, or to harass coastal vessels at medium range. In automated mode it will engage enemy airplanes at a longer range than the anti-aircraft batteries of the cruiser. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * | + | * Good muzzle velocity |
| + | * Acceptable rate of fire | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | * | + | * Below-average damage output |
| + | * Only 1 shell type | ||
| + | * No gun shield | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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| + | The 75/50 Modèle 1922 was a french gun designed during the dawn of the interwar period specifically to provide light French warships with the medium-range anti-air capability. | ||
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| + | It was able to elevate -10° down or up to 90° up, being able to engage targets directly above the ship. It had a theoretical rate of fire of up to 15 rounds per minute (one each 4 seconds), but during trials it achieved an average rate of fire of 8 rounds per minute. Guns weighted a total of 1.07 tone. | ||
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| + | The Gun used two types of shells: | ||
| + | * OEA Modèle 1925 - time-fused anti-air shell able to engage enemy airplanes up to 7500 meters altitude when firing 90° up. Shell had a total mass of 12.01 kg with 5.93 kg explosive filler, fired with a single BM5 propellant bag (2.18 kg) | ||
| + | * OEcl Modèle 1923 - Illumination rounds | ||
| + | * Practice - these were used for sea trials, [[wikipedia:Gun salute|salutes]] and warning shots | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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| + | * [[wikipedia:Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924|[Wikipedia] Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924]] | ||
| + | * [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_3-50_m1922.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> 75 mm/50 (3") Model 1922, 1924 and 1927] | ||
| + | * [https://clausuchronia.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/5-artillerie-et-systemes-darmes-de-la-marine-nationale-3/ <nowiki>[Clausuchronia]</nowiki> 5-Artillerie et systèmes d’armes de la marine nationale (3) - Canon de 75mm modèle 1922] | ||
| + | * Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press. | ||
{{France naval cannons}} | {{France naval cannons}} | ||
[[Category:Naval cannons]] | [[Category:Naval cannons]] | ||
Revision as of 18:45, 26 March 2023
Contents
Description
75 mm/50 model 1922 is a French naval gun. Used primarily as a secondary gun, historically it had a very different features than these implemented in the game, being a dedicated anti-air gun with time fused shells and excellent vertical guidance.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 100 m | 1,000 m | 2,000 m | 3,000 m | 4,000 m | 5,000 m | ||
| OEA Mle 1925 | HE | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| OEA Mle 1925 | HE | 850 | 5.93 | 0 | 0.1 | 450 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
Comparison with analogues
Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire. One important issue with the gun is its lacklustre vertical guidance, severely limiting its anti-air potential.
| Cannon | Sample Ship | Ammo | Calibre (mm) |
Muzzle velocity (m/s) |
Sustained rate of fire (rounds/min) |
Targeting speed (°/s) |
Vertical guidance (°) |
TNT equivalent (kg) |
TNT equivalent per minute (kg) |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||
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| Horizontal | Vertical | |||||||||||
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3-inch Mark 10 | USS Raleigh | HE | 76 | 825 | 17 | 8.5 | 15 | 85 | 0.5 | 8.5 | 8 |
  
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3 inch Mk.33 | Geniere | HE | 76.2 | 823 | 6 | 20 | 26 | 85 | 0.5 | 3 | 8 |
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3-inch Mk.34 | USS Asheville | HE | 76.2 | 823 | 49.8 | 20 | 26 | 85 | 0.5 | 24.9 | 8 |
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34-K (76 mm) | Soobrazitelny | HE | 76.2 | 845 | 27 | 12 | 8 | 85 | 0.483 | 13.04 | 8 |
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39-K (76 mm) | Tashkent | HE | 76.2 | 845 | 20 | 18 | 11 | 87 | 0.483 | 9.66 | 8 |
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76 mm/60 AK-176M | MPK Pr.12412 | HE | 76.2 | 845 | 20 | 30 | 26 | 85 | 0.616 | 12.32 | 10 |
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AK-726 (76 mm) | SKR-7 | HE | 76.2 | 980 | 16.2 | 26 | 30 | 85 | 0.616 | 9.98 | 10 |
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3 inch 12pdr 12 cwt QF Mk.V (76 mm) | HMS Churchill | HE | 76.2 | 823 | 17 | 25 | 25 | 70 | 0.5 | 8.5 | 8 |
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76 mm/45 QF 3in 20cwt (76 mm) | HMS Valhalla | HE | 76.2 | 762 | 12 | 13 | 10 | 40 | 0.32 | 3.84 | 6 |
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Type 88 AA (75 mm) | Type 5 | HE | 75 | 720 | 20 | 21 | 20 | 50 | 0.42 | 8.4 | 5 |
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8 cm/40 3rd Year Type (76 mm) | Type K-8 No.13 late | HE | 76.2 | 685 | 20 | 11 | 10 | 75 | 0.48 | 9.6 | 8 |
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8 cm/60 Type 98 (76 mm) | IJN Agano | HE | 76.2 | 902 | 25 | 18 | 16 | 85 | 0.399 | 9.98 | 7 |
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76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 (76 mm) | RN Aquila | HE | 76.2 | 690 | 15 | 11 | 10 | 75 | 0.65 | 9.75 | 10 |
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76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact (76 mm) | Sparviero | HE | 76 | 925 | 85.7 | 51 | 30 | 85 | 1.08 | 92.57 | 15 |
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76 mm/62 SMP 3 (76 mm) | Albatros | HE | 76.2 | 930 | 8.57 | 34 | 60 | 85 | 0.864 | 7.40 | 15 |
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75 mm/50 model 1922 | Duguay-Trouin | HE | 75 | 850 | 15 | 19 | 18 | 85 | 0.45 | 6.75 | 8 |
Usage in battles
The gun is present on only one ship - Duguay-Trouin - it can be used as a supplementary fire while the main guns are reloading, or to harass coastal vessels at medium range. In automated mode it will engage enemy airplanes at a longer range than the anti-aircraft batteries of the cruiser.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good muzzle velocity
- Acceptable rate of fire
Cons:
- Below-average damage output
- Only 1 shell type
- No gun shield
History
The 75/50 Modèle 1922 was a french gun designed during the dawn of the interwar period specifically to provide light French warships with the medium-range anti-air capability.
It was able to elevate -10° down or up to 90° up, being able to engage targets directly above the ship. It had a theoretical rate of fire of up to 15 rounds per minute (one each 4 seconds), but during trials it achieved an average rate of fire of 8 rounds per minute. Guns weighted a total of 1.07 tone.
The Gun used two types of shells:
- OEA Modèle 1925 - time-fused anti-air shell able to engage enemy airplanes up to 7500 meters altitude when firing 90° up. Shell had a total mass of 12.01 kg with 5.93 kg explosive filler, fired with a single BM5 propellant bag (2.18 kg)
- OEcl Modèle 1923 - Illumination rounds
- Practice - these were used for sea trials, salutes and warning shots
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
- references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.
External links
- [Wikipedia] Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924
- [NavWeaps] 75 mm/50 (3") Model 1922, 1924 and 1927
- [Clausuchronia] 5-Artillerie et systèmes d’armes de la marine nationale (3) - Canon de 75mm modèle 1922
- Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press.
| France naval cannons | |
|---|---|
| 37 mm | 37 mm/50 model 1925 · 37 mm/50 model 1933 |
| 47 mm | 3 pdr QF Hotchkiss |
| 57 mm | 57 mm/60 ACAD Mle 1951 |
| 75 mm | 75 mm/50 Canet model 1891 · 75 mm/50 model 1922 |
| 90 mm | 90 mm/50 model 1926 |
| 130 mm | 130 mm/40 model 1919 |
| 138.6 mm | 138.6 mm/55 model 1910 · 138.6 mm/40 model 1927 · 138.6 mm/50 model 1929 · 138.6 mm/50 model 1934 R1938 |
| 152 mm | 152 mm/55 model 1930 |
| 155 mm | 155 mm/50 model 1920 |
| 203 mm | 203 mm/50 model 1924 |
| 305 mm | 305 mm/45 model 1906-10 |
| 340 mm | 340 mm/45 model 1912 |
| Foreign: | |
| 20 mm | 2 cm/65 C/38 (Germany) · 2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (Germany) · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA/Britain) |
| 40 mm | 2pdr QF Mk.IIc (Britain) · 2pdr QF Mk.VIII (Britain) · Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA) |
| 87.6 mm | Ordnance QF 25pdr (87.6 mm) (Britain) |
| 102 mm | 4 in QF Mark V (Britain) · 4 inch/45 Mark XVI (Britain) |
| 105 mm | SK C/33 AA (Germany) |
| 128 mm | 12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 (Germany) |
| 150 mm | 15 cm/48 KC/36 (Germany) |
