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Mi-8AMTSh

USSR

VI Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
10.0	9.7	9.7

Class:

Attack helicopter

Research:360 000

Purchase:980 000

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Description

The Mi-8AMTSh (Armeyskiy Mnogotselevoy Transportno-Shturmovoy; "army multi-purpose transport and assault") is a modernisation of the Soviet Mi-8 transport helicopter, developed on the basis of the Mi-8AMT at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant in 1996. The helicopter was given the ability to carry similar guided weapon systems to modern versions of the Mi-24, including the 9M114 Shturm ATGM. The helicopter also received enhanced armour protection, new avionics, and a modified design. The Mi-8AMTSh was adopted by the Russian Air Force in 2009.

Introduced in Update "Kings of Battle", the Mi-8AMTSh is distinguished from the previous version by a new set of weapons, in particular new 9M114 Sturm ATGMs with longer range than the 9M17M Falanga, 9M39 Igla air-to-air missiles for protection against enemy aircraft, new gun pods, and countermeasures for protection against IR-guided missiles. However, the main disadvantages of the airframe remain, in particular the huge size and heavy weight do not allow the helicopter to actively manoeuvre between trees or terrain, so it will be difficult for it to evade enemy missiles.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed

at 1 000 m285 km/h

Max altitude4 950 m

Engine2 х Klimov TV3-117VM

Take-off weight13 t

Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics	Max speed (km/h at 1,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)
Stock	272	263	4950
Upgraded	___	___	4950

Survivability and armour

Crew3 people

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear420 km/h

Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB9 421 → 12 746

RB4 097 → 5 543

SB5 681 → 7 686

Total cost of modifications273 000

419 000

Talisman cost2 300

Crew training280 000

Experts980 000

Aces2 000

Research Aces830 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

100 / 280 / 420 %

208 / 208 / 208 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Compressor

Research:

11 000

Cost:

17 000

290

Replacing helicopter blades

Research:

10 000

Cost:

15 000

260

Engine

Research:

17 000

Cost:

26 000

450

	Flak jacket Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 290
Helicopter frame Research: 10 000 Cost: 15 000 260	Flares/Chaff Research: 10 000 Cost: 15 000 260

Cover Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 480	EFS(a) Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 480

pkt_new_gun Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 290	Gun pod GUV-8700 Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 290		ZB-500 Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 290
Gun pod UPK-23-250 Research: 10 000 Cost: 15 000 260	gunGShG_new_gun Research: 10 000 Cost: 15 000 260		FAB-100 Research: 10 000 Cost: 15 000 260
ns23_belt_pack Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 450	YaK-B_new_gun Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 450		FAB-250 Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 450
	RP-2-149TK/2 Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 480	9M39 Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 480	FAB-500 Research: 18 000 Cost: 28 000 480

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: PKT (7.62 mm)

The Mi-8AMTSh is armed with:

1 x 7.62 mm PKT machine gun, nose turret (1,750 rpg)
128 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

The Mi-8AMTSh can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

Default weapon presets

2 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine guns (750 rpg = 1,500 total) + 4 x 7.62 mm GShG-7.62 machine guns (1,800 rpg = 7,200 total)
6 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,500 total)
4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
8 x 9M39 Igla missiles
8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
120 x S-8KO rockets
6 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (600 kg total)
6 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (1,500 kg total)
2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
2 x 500 kg ZB-500 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

With the Mi-8AMTSh recieving better long ranged armament, countermeasures, and a ballistics computer, along with an engine upgrade, the Mi-8AMTSh is a good support helicopter to go along in your lineup.

In Ground RB, the Mi-8AMTSh is effective for both stand off engagements and rushing into the battle first spawn. The Mi-8AMTSh can carry up to 120x S-8K rockets, which are effective with dealing any armored targets when launching them in salvos, along with the added ballistics computer, hitting accurate shots from distances is easier to do with rockets. The uprated engines also allow it to pick up speeds quicker and is less prone to stalling its engines. The Mi-8 is a big helicopter overall, with the design originally being a transport helicopter. Mobility will still be mediocre and multiple machine gun and autocannon fire will easily defeat the Mi-8, along with being prone to pilot snipes.

For standoff engagements, the outermost pylons can take up to 4x 9M114 Shturm ATGMs on each pylon, for a total of 8x ATGMs which are good for dealing damage against ground targets overall from a distance. Prioritize SPAAs and Anti Air that are trying to target you. For defending against air targets, you can equip up to 4x 9M39 Igla missiles on the middle pylons, for a total up to 8x Igla missiles. These missiles are very flare resistant, but are more suited to deal with helicopters, though they can still take down air targets, despite its manueverability being subpar. The best way to use them is to catch the enemy off guard in their attack run or in their low energy state at a medium range distance. If the aircraft does spot you, try to use the Iglas to ward them off and deter them from attacking you, or for you to get a better launch angle. It is ideal to bring a GUV-8700 gunpod or GSh-23L to deal with air targets overall, as the single PKT is not ideal for engaging jets.

The Mi-8AMTSh does lack HIRSS, RWR and IRCM Dazzler than its Mi-24 cousins so be on the look out for any anti aircraft vehicles that are trying to target you. Without HIRSS, heat seeking missiles will have an easier time locking you on, along with radar missile systems not giving a lock warning due to the lack of RWR. It is best to preflare when dealing with heat seaking anti-air over the battlefield

Pros and cons

Pros:

Better, powerful uprated engines over the previous variant. Higher top speed
Access to 128x countermeasures
Improved, versatile armament than its predecessor
Access to ballistics computer
Access up to 8x 9114M Shturm missiles that can be fired up to 5 km away
Access up to 8x 9M39 Igla missiles, good for dealing against helicopters and slow aircrafts
GUV-8700 and GSh-23L gunpod offer extra firepower.

Cons:

Lacks RWR, HIRSS and IRCM Dazzler unlike its Mi-24 cousins
Downgraded to 7.62mm PKT for machine gun. Subpar for dealing with targets overall
Big recognizable profile
Sluggish mobility when manuevering
Crew closely grouped together
ATGM firing angle is slightly akward. Have to pitch nose down slightly if in a hover to launch
Lacks Thermals and NVD for the gunner

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Mi-8AMTSh from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

The Shooting Range #382 - Metal Beasts section at 00:25 discusses the Mi-8AMTSh.

External links

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topic on the official game forum;
other literature.

Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant
Attack	Mi-4AV
	Mi-8AMTSh · Mi-8AMTSh-VN · Mi-8TV
	Mi-24A · Mi-24P · Mi-24V
	Mi-28N · Mi-28NM
	Mi-35M
Export	◊Mi-8TB
	▂Mi-24D · ◔Mi-24D · ◔Mi-24V · ◔Mi-24P · ◊Mi-24P · ◄Mi-24P HFS 80 · Superhind
	Mi-28A
	▄Mi-35M

USSR helicopters
Attack
Hound	Mi-4AV
Hip	Mi-8AMTSh · Mi-8AMTSh-VN · Mi-8TV
Hind	Mi-24A · ▂Mi-24D · Mi-24P · Mi-24V · Mi-35M
Havoc	Mi-28N · Mi-28NM
Helix	Ka-29
Hokum	Ka-50 · Ka-52

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+{{About
+| about = Soviet attack helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+| usage = other versions
+| link = Mi-8 (Family)
+}}
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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Kings of Battle"]].
+The '''Mi-8AMTSh''' (''Armeyskiy Mnogotselevoy Transportno-Shturmovoy''; "army multi-purpose transport and assault") is a modernisation of the Soviet Mi-8 transport helicopter, developed on the basis of the Mi-8AMT at the Ulan-Ude Aviation Plant in 1996. The helicopter was given the ability to carry similar guided weapon systems to modern versions of the [[Mi-24 (Family)|Mi-24]], including the 9M114 Shturm ATGM. The helicopter also received enhanced armour protection, new avionics, and a modified design. The Mi-8AMTSh was adopted by the Russian Air Force in 2009.
+Introduced in [[Update "Kings of Battle"]], the Mi-8AMTSh is distinguished from the [[Mi-8TV|previous version]] by a new set of weapons, in particular new 9M114 Sturm ATGMs with longer range than the 9M17M Falanga, 9M39 Igla air-to-air missiles for protection against enemy aircraft, new gun pods, and countermeasures for protection against IR-guided missiles. However, the main disadvantages of the airframe remain, in particular the huge size and heavy weight do not allow the helicopter to actively manoeuvre between trees or terrain, so it will be difficult for it to evade enemy missiles.
 == General info ==
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-! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at _,___ m)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
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 <!-- ''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
+{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
+{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
+* 2 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine guns (750 rpg = 1,500 total) + 4 x 7.62 mm GShG-7.62 machine guns (1,800 rpg = 7,200 total)
+* 6 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,500 total)
+* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
+* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles
+* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
+* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
+* 120 x S-8KO rockets
+* 6 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (600 kg total)
+* 6 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (1,500 kg total)
+* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
+* 2 x 500 kg ZB-500 incendiary bombs
+{{Navigation-End}}
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+With the Mi-8AMTSh recieving better long ranged armament, countermeasures, and a ballistics computer, along with an engine upgrade, the Mi-8AMTSh is a good support helicopter to go along in your lineup.
+In Ground RB, the Mi-8AMTSh is effective for both stand off engagements and rushing into the battle first spawn. The Mi-8AMTSh can carry up to 120x S-8K rockets, which are effective with dealing any armored targets when launching them in salvos, along with the added ballistics computer, hitting accurate shots from distances is easier to do with rockets. The uprated engines also allow it to pick up speeds quicker and is less prone to stalling its engines. The Mi-8 is a big helicopter overall, with the design originally being a transport helicopter. Mobility will still be mediocre and multiple machine gun and autocannon fire will easily defeat the Mi-8, along with being prone to pilot snipes.
+For standoff engagements, the outermost pylons can take up to 4x 9M114 Shturm ATGMs on each pylon, for a total of 8x ATGMs which are good for dealing damage against ground targets overall from a distance. Prioritize SPAAs and Anti Air that are trying to target you. For defending against air targets, you can equip up to 4x 9M39 Igla missiles on the middle pylons, for a total up to 8x Igla missiles. These missiles are very flare resistant, but are more suited to deal with helicopters, though they can still take down air targets, despite its manueverability being subpar. The best way to use them is to catch the enemy off guard in their attack run or in their low energy state at a medium range distance. If the aircraft does spot you, try to use the Iglas to ward them off and deter them from attacking you, or for you to get a better launch angle. It is ideal to bring a GUV-8700 gunpod or GSh-23L to deal with air targets overall, as the single PKT is not ideal for engaging jets.
+The Mi-8AMTSh does lack HIRSS, RWR and IRCM Dazzler than its Mi-24 cousins so be on the look out for any anti aircraft vehicles that are trying to target you. Without HIRSS, heat seeking missiles will have an easier time locking you on, along with radar missile systems not giving a lock warning due to the lack of RWR. It is best to preflare when dealing with heat seaking anti-air over the battlefield
 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
-''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''
-'''Pros:'''
+* Better, powerful uprated engines over the previous variant. Higher top speed
-*
+* Access to 128x countermeasures
+* Improved, versatile armament than its predecessor
+* Access to ballistics computer
+* Access up to 8x 9114M Shturm missiles that can be fired up to 5 km away
+* Access up to 8x 9M39 Igla missiles, good for dealing against helicopters and slow aircrafts
+* GUV-8700 and GSh-23L gunpod offer extra firepower.
 '''Cons:'''
-*
+* Lacks RWR, HIRSS and IRCM Dazzler unlike its Mi-24 cousins
+* Downgraded to 7.62mm PKT for machine gun. Subpar for dealing with targets overall
+* Big recognizable profile
+* Sluggish mobility when manuevering
+* Crew closely grouped together
+* ATGM firing angle is slightly akward. Have to pitch nose down slightly if in a hover to launch
+* Lacks Thermals and NVD for the gunner
 == History ==
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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mi_8amtsh Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+;Videos
+{{Youtube-gallery|jttH2id3KsY|'''The Shooting Range #382''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
+;Related development
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+* [[Mi-8 (Family)]]
 == External links ==
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 * ''other literature.'' -->
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''
+{{AirManufacturer Mil}}
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Difference between revisions of "Mi-8AMTSh"

Latest revision as of 05:17, 21 November 2024

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Suspended armament

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links