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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''85 mm D-5''' is a Soviet tank cannon. An anti-tank modification of the 85 mm 52-K anti-aircraft cannon, it was mounted to the chassis of the SU-122 and originally intended to be fitted into the turret of the T-34, before being replaced by the [[ZIS-S-53 (85 mm)|ZIS-S-53]]. The cannon was designated '''D-5T''' when mounted in tanks, while tank destroyer mounts were designated '''D-5S''' (''Samokhodnaya'': "self-propelled").
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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; D-5T
  
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85_d_5t}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85_d_5t}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_kv_85}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_kv_85}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_is_1}}
 
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; D-5S
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_su_85_1943}}
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_su_85a}}
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_su_85m}}
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
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=== Available shells ===
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=== Available ammunition ===
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{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|BR-365K, BR-365A, BR-365P, O-365K}}
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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| BR-365K || APHE || 148 || 143 || 126 || 106 || 90 || 77
 
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| BR-365A || APHEBC || 135 || 133 || 125 || 115 || 106 || 97
 
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| BR-365P || APCR || 195 || 187 || 154 || 120 || 94 || 74
 
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| O-365K || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
 
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| BR-365K || APHE || 792 || 9.2 || 1.2 || 14 || 73.92 || 47° || 60° || 65°
 
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| BR-365A || APHEBC || 792 || 9.2 || 1.2 || 14 || 164 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| BR-365P || APCR || 1,050 || 4.99 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
 
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| O-365K || HE || 793 || 9.54 || 0.1 || 0.3 || 660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
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Only the IS-1 has access to the APCR round.
 
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* The BR-365K APHE shell can take out early Panther tanks (VK, D, A) by ricocheting from the gun mantlet down into the thin top
  
 
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== History ==
 
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By 1942, the [[F-34 (76 mm)]] of the [[T-34 (1941)]] variant was found to be lacking in various fields, such as with penetration and range, especially when compared to the 75 mm anti-tank guns of the later [[Pz.IV (Family)]] variants and of the later [[StuG III (Family)]] variants. This inferiority was made especially noticeable when compared to the [[KwK36 (88 mm)]] anti-tank conversion of the original anti-air [[Flak.37 (88 mm)]], fitted onto the [[Tiger H1]] and [[Tiger E]] tanks. Due to this predicament, military planners directed the design bureaus of General Vasily Grabin and Fyodor Petrov to modify the anti-air gun of the M1939 (52-K) for use as an anti-tank.
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The Pretov bureau developed the D-5 85 mm gun from the original anti-air design. Initially, the gun was too large for the turrets of the [[T-34 (1941)]], but efforts were conducted to redesign the turret to accommodate the increased size of the new gun. On the other hand, with some modifications to the chassis of the [[SU-122]], the gun was fitted into the tank-destroyer and was set int production. The modified tank would be renamed to the [[SU-85]]. Meanwhile, the Vasiliy Grabin was working on his own version of the anti-air gun, called the [[ZIS-S-53 (85 mm)]]. After testing of both variants at the Gorokhoviesky Proving Grounds, Grabin's gun won the competition. Unfortunately, the T-34's new turret design could not fit the [[ZIS-S-53 (85 mm)]], only being able to accommodate the already-available D-5 design. Therefore, the [[T-34-85 (D-5T)]] went into production with the D-5 anti-tank gun, designated the D-5T. All models from 1944 onwards were fitted with the [[ZIS-S-53 (85 mm)]] gun, known as the [[T-34-85]].
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== External links ==
 
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/85_mm_air_defense_gun_M1939_(52-K) <nowiki>[Wikipedia] 85 mm air defence gun M1939 (52-K)</nowiki>]
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{{USSR tank cannons}}
 
  
 
[[Category:Tank cannons]]
 
[[Category:Tank cannons]]

Latest revision as of 04:04, 24 October 2024

Description

The 85 mm D-5 is a Soviet tank cannon. An anti-tank modification of the 85 mm 52-K anti-aircraft cannon, it was mounted to the chassis of the SU-122 and originally intended to be fitted into the turret of the T-34, before being replaced by the ZIS-S-53. The cannon was designated D-5T when mounted in tanks, while tank destroyer mounts were designated D-5S (Samokhodnaya: "self-propelled").

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

D-5T
D-5S

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
BR-365K APHE 148 143 126 106 90 77
BR-365A APHEBC 135 133 124 114 104 95
BR-365P APCR 195 187 154 122 96 76
O-365K HE 19 18 17 16 15 14
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
BR-365K APHE 792 9.2 1.2 14 77 47° 60° 65°
BR-365A APHEBC 792 9.2 1.2 14 164 48° 63° 71°
BR-365P APCR 1,050 4.99 - - - 66° 70° 72°
O-365K HE 785 9.54 0.2 0.1 741 79° 80° 81°

Comparison with analogues

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Usage in battles

Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • The BR-365K APHE shell can take out early Panther tanks (VK, D, A) by ricocheting from the gun mantlet down into the thin top

Cons:

History

By 1942, the F-34 (76 mm) of the T-34 (1941) variant was found to be lacking in various fields, such as with penetration and range, especially when compared to the 75 mm anti-tank guns of the later Pz.IV (Family) variants and of the later StuG III (Family) variants. This inferiority was made especially noticeable when compared to the KwK36 (88 mm) anti-tank conversion of the original anti-air Flak.37 (88 mm), fitted onto the Tiger H1 and Tiger E tanks. Due to this predicament, military planners directed the design bureaus of General Vasily Grabin and Fyodor Petrov to modify the anti-air gun of the M1939 (52-K) for use as an anti-tank.

The Pretov bureau developed the D-5 85 mm gun from the original anti-air design. Initially, the gun was too large for the turrets of the T-34 (1941), but efforts were conducted to redesign the turret to accommodate the increased size of the new gun. On the other hand, with some modifications to the chassis of the SU-122, the gun was fitted into the tank-destroyer and was set int production. The modified tank would be renamed to the SU-85. Meanwhile, the Vasiliy Grabin was working on his own version of the anti-air gun, called the ZIS-S-53 (85 mm). After testing of both variants at the Gorokhoviesky Proving Grounds, Grabin's gun won the competition. Unfortunately, the T-34's new turret design could not fit the ZIS-S-53 (85 mm), only being able to accommodate the already-available D-5 design. Therefore, the T-34-85 (D-5T) went into production with the D-5 anti-tank gun, designated the D-5T. All models from 1944 onwards were fitted with the ZIS-S-53 (85 mm) gun, known as the T-34-85.

Media

Videos
Top 7 best rounds discusses the BR-365A at 4:13 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

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  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

[Wikipedia] 85 mm air defence gun M1939 (52-K)

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