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[[File:75 mm 50 model 1922.jpg|thumb|x250px|[[75 mm/50 model 1922 (75 mm)|75 mm mle 1924]] on [[Duguay-Trouin]]]]
 
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'''75 mm/50 model 1922''' is a French naval gun. Though its usage in the game is mostly as a secondary gun, it can also be a dedicated anti-air gun with time fused shells.
  
 
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* {{Specs-Link|fr_destroyer_jaguar_class_chacal}}
 
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* {{Specs-Link|fr_battleship_courbet_class_paris}}
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* {{Specs-Link|fr_cruiser_dugauy_class_primaguet}}
  
 
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=== Available ammunition ===
 
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Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire.
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The gun can be used as a supplementary fire while the main guns are reloading, or to harass coastal vessels at medium range. In automated mode it will engage enemy airplanes at a longer range than the anti-aircraft cannons of the ship.
  
 
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* Good muzzle velocity
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* Good vertical guidance
  
 
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* No gun shield
  
 
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The 75/50 Modèle 1922 was a french gun designed during the dawn of the interwar period specifically to provide light French warships with the medium-range anti-air capability.
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It was able to elevate -10° down or up to 90° up, being able to engage targets directly above the ship. It had a theoretical rate of fire of up to 15 rounds per minute (one each 4 seconds), but during trials it achieved an average rate of fire of 8 rounds per minute. Guns weighted a total of 1.07 tone.
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The Gun used two types of shells:
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* OEA Modèle 1925 - time-fused anti-air shell able to engage enemy airplanes up to 7500 meters altitude when firing 90° up. Shell had a total mass of 12.01 kg with 5.93 kg explosive filler, fired with a single BM5 propellant bag (2.18 kg)
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* OEcl Modèle 1923 - Illumination rounds
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* Practice - these were used for sea trials, [[wikipedia:Gun salute|salutes]] and warning shots
  
 
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* [[90 mm/50 model 1926 (90 mm)|90 mm/50 model 1926]] <small>(Successor)</small>
  
 
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* [[wikipedia:Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924|[Wikipedia] Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924]]
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* [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_3-50_m1922.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> 75 mm/50 (3") Model 1922, 1924 and 1927]
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* [https://clausuchronia.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/5-artillerie-et-systemes-darmes-de-la-marine-nationale-3/ <nowiki>[Clausuchronia]</nowiki> 5-Artillerie et systèmes d'armes de la marine nationale (3)  - Canon de 75mm modèle 1922]
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* Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 09:12, 18 October 2024

75 mm mle 1924 on Duguay-Trouin

Description

75 mm/50 model 1922 is a French naval gun. Though its usage in the game is mostly as a secondary gun, it can also be a dedicated anti-air gun with time fused shells.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
OEA Mle 1925 HE 8 8 8 8 8 8
HE-TF OEA Mle 1925 HE-TF 8 8 8 8 8 8
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OEA Mle 1925 HE 850 5.93 0 0.1 450 79° 80° 81°
HE-TF OEA Mle 1925 HE-TF 850 5.93 0 0.1 450 79° 80° 81°

Comparison with analogues

Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire.

Cannon Sample Ship Ammo Calibre
(mm) 		Muzzle velocity
(m/s) 		Sustained rate of fire
(rounds/min) 		Targeting speed
(°/s) 		Vertical guidance
(°) 		TNT equivalent
(kg) 		TNT equivalent
per minute (kg) 		Penetration
@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Horizontal Vertical
USA flag.png 3-inch Mark 10 USS Raleigh HE 76 825 17 8.5 15 85 0.5 8.5 8
USA flag.pngBritain flag.pngJapan flag.pngItaly flag.png 3 inch Mk.33 Geniere HE 76.2 823 6 20 26 85 0.5 3 8
USA flag.pngJapan flag.png 3-inch Mk.34 USS Asheville HE 76.2 823 49.8 20 26 85 0.5 24.9 8
USSR flag.png 34-K (76 mm) Soobrazitelny HE 76.2 845 27 12 8 85 0.483 13.04 8
USSR flag.png 39-K (76 mm) Tashkent HE 76.2 845 20 18 11 87 0.483 9.66 8
USSR flag.png 76 mm/60 AK-176M MPK Pr.12412 HE 76.2 845 20 30 26 85 0.616 12.32 10
USSR flag.png AK-726 (76 mm) SKR-7 HE 76.2 980 16.2 26 30 85 0.616 9.98 10
Britain flag.png 3 inch 12pdr 12 cwt QF Mk.V (76 mm) HMS Churchill HE 76.2 823 17 25 25 70 0.5 8.5 8
Britain flag.png 76 mm/45 QF 3in 20cwt (76 mm) HMS Valhalla HE 76.2 762 12 13 10 40 0.32 3.84 6
Japan flag.png Type 88 AA (75 mm) Type 5 HE 75 720 20 21 20 50 0.42 8.4 5
Japan flag.png 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type (76 mm) Type K-8 No.13 late HE 76.2 685 20 11 10 75 0.48 9.6 8
Japan flag.png 8 cm/60 Type 98 (76 mm) IJN Agano HE 76.2 902 25 18 16 85 0.399 9.98 7
Kingdom Italy flag.png 76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 (76 mm) RN Aquila HE 76.2 690 15 11 10 75 0.65 9.75 10
Italy flag.pngGermany flag.pngBritain flag.png 76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact (76 mm) Sparviero HE 76 925 85.7 51 30 85 1.08 92.57 15
Italy flag.png 76 mm/62 SMP 3 (76 mm) Albatros HE 76.2 930 8.57 34 60 85 0.864 7.40 15
France flag.png 75 mm/50 model 1922 Duguay-Trouin HE 75 850 15 19 18 85 0.45 6.75 8

Usage in battles

The gun can be used as a supplementary fire while the main guns are reloading, or to harass coastal vessels at medium range. In automated mode it will engage enemy airplanes at a longer range than the anti-aircraft cannons of the ship.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good muzzle velocity
  • Acceptable rate of fire
  • Good vertical guidance

Cons:

  • Below-average damage output
  • No gun shield

History

The 75/50 Modèle 1922 was a french gun designed during the dawn of the interwar period specifically to provide light French warships with the medium-range anti-air capability.

It was able to elevate -10° down or up to 90° up, being able to engage targets directly above the ship. It had a theoretical rate of fire of up to 15 rounds per minute (one each 4 seconds), but during trials it achieved an average rate of fire of 8 rounds per minute. Guns weighted a total of 1.07 tone.

The Gun used two types of shells:

  • OEA Modèle 1925 - time-fused anti-air shell able to engage enemy airplanes up to 7500 meters altitude when firing 90° up. Shell had a total mass of 12.01 kg with 5.93 kg explosive filler, fired with a single BM5 propellant bag (2.18 kg)
  • OEcl Modèle 1923 - Illumination rounds
  • Practice - these were used for sea trials, salutes and warning shots

Media

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See also

External links


France naval cannons
37 mm  37 mm/50 model 1925 · 37 mm/50 model 1933
47 mm  3 pdr QF Hotchkiss
57 mm  57 mm/60 ACAD Mle 1951
75 mm  75 mm/50 Canet model 1891 · 75 mm/50 model 1922
90 mm  90 mm/50 model 1926
130 mm  130 mm/40 model 1919
138.6 mm  138.6 mm/55 model 1910 · 138.6 mm/40 model 1927 · 138.6 mm/50 model 1929 · 138.6 mm/50 model 1934 R1938
152 mm  152 mm/55 model 1930
155 mm  155 mm/50 model 1920
203 mm  203 mm/50 model 1924
305 mm  305 mm/45 model 1906-10
340 mm  340 mm/45 model 1912
  Foreign:
20 mm  2 cm/65 C/38 (Germany) · 2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (Germany) · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA/Britain)
40 mm  2pdr QF Mk.IIc (Britain) · 2pdr QF Mk.VIII (Britain) · Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA)
87.6 mm  Ordnance QF 25pdr (87.6 mm) (Britain)
102 mm  4 in QF Mark V (Britain) · 4 inch/45 Mark XVI (Britain)
105 mm  SK C/33 AA (Germany)
128 mm  12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 (Germany)
150 mm  15 cm/48 KC/36 (Germany)

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