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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Kings of Battle"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Kings of Battle"]]. It has similar characteristics to the Soviet [[2S3M]] and can deliver powerful 155 mm shells over long distances and relocate swiftly to evade enemy fire. The M109A1 has an average rate of fire and large ammo capacity, and its mobility is complemented by a good top speed and acceleration. However, its armour is not very thick, so it's recommended to use the M109A1's speed to avoid direct confrontations when possible. Moreover, it is essential to keep in mind that the M109A1 has low gun depression and cannot depend on firing from elevated positions.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Hull || 32 mm || 32 mm ''Top'' <br> 32 mm ''Bottom'' || 32 mm || 10 - 34 mm
 
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| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Turret || 37 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 3 3 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 32 mm || 32 mm || 7 - 33 mm
 
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| Cupola || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm || ___ mm
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| Cupola || 33 mm || 33 mm || 33 mm || 33 mm
 
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''After Firing, the tank can relocate swiftly to evade enemy fire. Its mobility is complimented by its good top speed and acceleration.''
  
 
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{{main|M185 (155 mm)}}
 
{{main|M185 (155 mm)}}
  
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''
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''The M109A1 has a derp gun, and it is best used as such. Its low projectile speed makes it harder to aim than the American variant. Its high explosive round is very effective against German tanks, not so much against Russian ones. Remember to pre-turn your turret, as your rotation speed is abysmal.''
  
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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''The 155 mm cannon is surprisingly adept at destroying any tank, even up to heavies of the same or slightly higher BRs. It is important to remember that accuracy is low with this gun, but destructive capability is spectacular. Thus, it is best to put yourself in a well defended position and rely on ambush tactics, at least in Realistic mode. The M109 makes an exceptionally good target for planes with its large profile and thin armour, so plane strafing is something you'll have to be careful of.''
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
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* '''Access to HE and HE-VT shells with more than 9 kg of TNT'''
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* '''Top speed of 56 km/h that it can easily reach'''
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* '''Can be surprisingly survivable, usually not taken out in a single shot'''
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* '''Impressive 75° elevation limit'''
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* '''Top mounted .50 cal for taking out softer targets'''
  
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
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* '''Hindered by a limited gun depression of -3 degrees'''
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* '''The gunner optics have a low zoom level (4X)'''
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* '''Thin armour, will only stop small arms fire'''
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* '''Long reload (17.1 seconds stock)'''
  
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
  
== Media ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==

Revision as of 16:44, 19 April 2024

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This page is about the tank destroyer M109A1 (Great Britain). For other versions, see M109 (Family).
▄M109A1
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▄M109A1
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6.3 6.3 6.3
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Description

The ▄M109A1 is a rank IV British tank destroyer with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Kings of Battle". It has similar characteristics to the Soviet 2S3M and can deliver powerful 155 mm shells over long distances and relocate swiftly to evade enemy fire. The M109A1 has an average rate of fire and large ammo capacity, and its mobility is complemented by a good top speed and acceleration. However, its armour is not very thick, so it's recommended to use the M109A1's speed to avoid direct confrontations when possible. Moreover, it is essential to keep in mind that the M109A1 has low gun depression and cannot depend on firing from elevated positions.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull32 / 32 / 32
Turret32 / 32 / 32
Crew6 people
Visibility96 %

The armour on the M109 is nearly non-existent, being surrounded by 32 mm thick aluminium alloy 5083, which effectively comes down to 13-20 mm RHA. This leaves the vehicle vulnerable to even light machine gun fire from any angle. The weakness of the armour turns into a strong-suit against AP shells that will pass straight through, unable to fuse or create enough spall to inflict major damage. Direct hits from HE and other chemical shells will most likely leave the M109 a burning wreck. The 6 crew members are pretty spaced apart in the turret, giving a plus to crew survivability.

Armour type:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 32 mm 32 mm Top
32 mm Bottom
32 mm 10 - 34 mm
Turret 37 mm Turret front
3 3 mm Gun mantlet
32 mm 32 mm 7 - 33 mm
Cupola 33 mm 33 mm 33 mm 33 mm

Notes:

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB62 / 13 km/h
RB and SB57 / 12 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
4 back
Weight24.1 t
Engine power
AB773 hp
RB and SB405 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB32.1 hp/t
RB and SB16.8 hp/t

After Firing, the tank can relocate swiftly to evade enemy fire. Its mobility is complimented by its good top speed and acceleration.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 62 13 24.1 575 773 23.86 32.07
Realistic 57 12 358 405 14.85 16.8

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 148 → 3 894 Sl icon.png
RB3 601 → 4 454 Sl icon.png
SB4 887 → 6 045 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications47 000 Rp icon.png
85 900 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 500 Ge icon.png
Crew training52 000 Sl icon.png
Experts185 000 Sl icon.png
Aces710 Ge icon.png
Research Aces480 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 180 / 230 % Sl icon.png
166 / 166 / 166 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 100 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement uk.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 100 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
155mm_M110_Smoke_ammo_pack
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
155mm_M107_HE_PF_ammo_pack
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
110 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 100 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

155 mm M185 cannon
Ammunition28 rounds
First-order16 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
17.3 → 13.3 s
Vertical guidance-3° / 75°
Main article: M185 (155 mm)

The M109A1 has a derp gun, and it is best used as such. Its low projectile speed makes it harder to aim than the American variant. Its high explosive round is very effective against German tanks, not so much against Russian ones. Remember to pre-turn your turret, as your rotation speed is abysmal.

155 mm M185 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 28 -3°/+75° ±180° - 9.7 13.4 16.3 18.0 19.1 17.29 15.30 14.10 13.30
Realistic 6.5 7.7 9.4 10.3 11.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
M107 HE 61 61 61 61 61 61
M107 (PF) HE-VT 61 61 61 61 61 61
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M107 HE 684 43.1 0.3 0.1 9.14 79° 80° 81°
Proximity-fused shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Arming
distance (m)
Trigger
radius (m)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M107 (PF) HE-VT 684 43.1 0 0 300 3 9.14 79° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy
time (s)
Screen hold
time (s)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
M110 684 44.63 21 5 30 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
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Machine guns

Ammunition600 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate575 shots/min
Vertical guidance-10° / 45°
Main article: M2HB (12.7 mm)

Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 600 (200) 575 -10°/+50° ±180°

Usage in battles

The 155 mm cannon is surprisingly adept at destroying any tank, even up to heavies of the same or slightly higher BRs. It is important to remember that accuracy is low with this gun, but destructive capability is spectacular. Thus, it is best to put yourself in a well defended position and rely on ambush tactics, at least in Realistic mode. The M109 makes an exceptionally good target for planes with its large profile and thin armour, so plane strafing is something you'll have to be careful of.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Access to HE and HE-VT shells with more than 9 kg of TNT
  • Top speed of 56 km/h that it can easily reach
  • Can be surprisingly survivable, usually not taken out in a single shot
  • Impressive 75° elevation limit
  • Top mounted .50 cal for taking out softer targets

Cons:

  • Hindered by a limited gun depression of -3 degrees
  • The gunner optics have a low zoom level (4X)
  • Thin armour, will only stop small arms fire
  • Long reload (17.1 seconds stock)

History

Development of the M109 began in the early 1950s under a U.S. program to develop a common chassis for a number of different SPH designs. Upon entering service, the M109 was immediately deployed to the Vietnam War. However, its operational service during the conflict was cut short due to serious mechanical malfunctions which rendered the fleet inoperable. Nonetheless, after being addressed and receiving its first upgrade to the A1 standard, the M109 would continue service with U.S. forces for decades to come, taking part in virtually all military conflicts where U.S. forces were deployed in. Once its design eventually matured, the M109 successfully resisted replacement on multiple occasions and continuously received upgrades until the present day. Great Britain had recieved M109A2/A3/A3Bs with 140+ entered service in 1965, upgraded to -A1 and -A2 standards, and 83 sold to Austria in 1994 (51 M109A2, 32 M109A3)

Media

See also

Related development

External links


Britain tank destroyers
Infantry tank derivatives  Archer · Gun Carrier (3-in)
Light tank derivatives  Alecto I
M10 Achilles  Achilles · Achilles (65 Rg.)
Centurion derivatives  FV4005 · Conway
ATGM  Swingfire · Striker
Other  Tortoise · ▄M109A1
Canada  QF 3.7 Ram
South Africa  G6 · ZT3A2