Difference between revisions of "M.B.174A-3"
Colok76286 (talk | contribs) (Edits) |
(History and interesting fact of MB 174) (Tag: Visual edit) |
||
(27 intermediate revisions by 12 users not shown) | |||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
− | {{Specs-Card | + | {{Specs-Card|code=mb_174_a3}} |
− | |code=mb_174_a3 | ||
− | |||
− | }} | ||
== Description == | == Description == | ||
− | <!-- | + | <!--In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.--> |
− | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]] | + | [[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] |
− | + | {{break}} | |
− | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French frontline bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]]. | |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
− | === Flight | + | === Flight Performance === |
− | + | ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' | |
− | |||
− | |||
− | + | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | |
− | + | |- | |
− | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | + | ! colspan="8" | Characteristics |
− | ! | + | |- |
− | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at | + | ! colspan="8" | ''Stock'' |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>( | + | |- |
+ | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters) | ||
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ||
− | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>( | + | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second) |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>( | + | ! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters) |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! AB | + | ! AB |
+ | ! RB | ||
+ | ! AB | ||
+ | ! RB | ||
+ | ! AB | ||
+ | ! RB | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | + | | ? || ? || ?,000 || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??? | |
− | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Upgraded | + | ! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded'' |
− | | | + | |- |
+ | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters) | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds) | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! AB | ||
+ | ! RB | ||
+ | ! AB | ||
+ | ! RB | ||
+ | ! AB | ||
+ | ! RB | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | ? || ? || ?,000 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || ? | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
− | ==== Details ==== | + | ====Details==== |
− | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center | + | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" |
|- | |- | ||
! colspan="5" | Features | ! colspan="5" | Features | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Combat | + | ! Combat flap |
+ | ! Take-off flap | ||
+ | ! Landing flap | ||
+ | ! Air brakes | ||
+ | ! Arrestor gear | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | | + | | X || X || X || X || X <!-- ✓ --> |
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
− | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center | + | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! colspan=" | + | ! colspan="5" | Limits |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" | | + | ! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h) |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h) | + | ! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h) |
− | ! | + | ! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h) |
! colspan="2" | Max Static G | ! colspan="2" | Max Static G | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | + | ! + | |
+ | ! - | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | | + | | ??? || ??? || ??? || ~?? || ~? |
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
Line 64: | Line 84: | ||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h) | + | ! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities |
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Ailerons<br>(km/h) | ||
+ | ! Rudder<br>(km/h) | ||
+ | ! Elevators<br>(km/h) | ||
+ | ! Radiator<br>(km/h) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ??? | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" | Setting 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Optimal altitude | ||
+ | ! 100% Engine power | ||
+ | ! WEP Engine power | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | ?,??? m || ??? hp || ?,??? hp | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | <!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Optimal altitude | ||
+ | ! 100% Engine power | ||
+ | ! WEP Engine power | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | ! colspan="3" | Setting 3 |
|- | |- | ||
− | + | ! Optimal altitude | |
+ | ! 100% Engine power | ||
+ | ! WEP Engine power | ||
|- | |- | ||
+ | | ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp | ||
+ | |- --> | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
− | + | <!--Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.--> | |
− | <!-- | ||
* 8 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head. | * 8 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head. | ||
− | |||
− | |||
− | |||
− | |||
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
− | |||
=== Offensive armament === | === Offensive armament === | ||
− | + | <!--Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.--> | |
− | <!-- | ||
{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}} | {{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}} | ||
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | ||
− | * 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns | + | * 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns (600 RPG = 1,000 total) |
− | The two machine guns are arranged with one mounted in each wing. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty | + | The two machine guns are arranged with one mounted in each wing. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty. |
=== Suspended armament === | === Suspended armament === | ||
− | + | <!--Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.--> | |
− | <!-- | + | {{main|G.A.M.Mn 50 (50 kg)|№.2 (500 kg)}} |
− | {{main|G.A. | ||
− | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can | + | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' suspended armament configurations can include: |
− | * 8 x 50 kg G.A. | + | * 8 x 50 kg G.A.M.Mn 50 bombs (bomb bay) |
− | * 1 x 500 kg | + | * 1 x 500 kg №.2 bomb (external fuselage pylon) |
=== Defensive armament === | === Defensive armament === | ||
− | + | <!--Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.--> | |
− | <!-- | ||
{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}} | {{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}} | ||
− | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' | + | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' defensive weapons include: |
− | * 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine | + | * 2 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine gun, dorsal turret (400 RPG = 800 total) |
− | * 3 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine | + | * 3 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine gun, ventral turret (500 RPG = 1,500 total) |
− | |||
− | |||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
− | <!-- | + | <!--Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).--> |
− | + | M.B.174 is rather maneuverable flying in a straight line since the aircraft can roll pretty well and has acceptable elevator motion. When in a combat situation, this changes considerable as the plane is difficult to handle in dives and turns. Trying to approach a bombing target in a diving turn, the M.B.174 is very slow to turn around and the bow keeps pointing way off the line of flight. Even using full rudder control, the bow of the plane just does not follow the turn, making it likely that the bombs will miss their target. | |
− | + | The 50 kg bombs are not effective against any ground targets so it is imperative to research the heavier loads immediately. In attack mode, the 7.5 mm MG don't make much of a dent on enemies, and since ammo runs out quickly, any attack must be carefully planned. In addition, the M.B.174 does not conserve energy well and trying to climb will reduce speed to under 200 km/h, in which case the pilot can expect to be toasted if there are enemies anywhere in the vicinity. | |
− | + | Tactics should be focused on bombing ground targets with a straight line approach and a clear exit away from the enemy. Attacking bombers at higher altitude is not advisable. Fighters busy in turn fights can be attacked if you have an altitude advantage and a line of exit. | |
− | === Manual Engine Control === | + | ===Manual Engine Control=== |
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! colspan="7" | MEC elements | ! colspan="7" | MEC elements | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" | Mixer | + | ! rowspan="2" |Mixer |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Pitch | + | ! rowspan="2" |Pitch |
− | ! colspan="3" | Radiator | + | ! colspan="3" |Radiator |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Supercharger | + | ! rowspan="2" |Supercharger |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger | + | ! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Oil | + | ! Oil |
+ | ! Water | ||
+ | ! Type | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Not controllable || Controllable<br>Automatic pitch || Controllable || Not controllable || Combined || Controllable || Not controllable | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | | + | |- |
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===Modules=== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" | ||
+ | ! Tier | ||
+ | ! Flight performance | ||
+ | ! Survivability | ||
+ | ! Weaponry | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | IA | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | II | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | III | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | IV | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
+ | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
− | <!-- | + | <!--Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".--> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | + | * Extremely maneuverable for a bomber | |
− | * Extremely | + | * Has offensive armament, though weak, many bombers cannot say the same |
− | * Has offensive armament | ||
− | |||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * Extremely weak | + | * Extremely weak payload |
* Poor defensive armament | * Poor defensive armament | ||
− | * | + | * Poor acceleration |
+ | * Need to use rudder heavily in diving turns | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
− | + | Evolution of the MB.170, this new model definitively abandoned the belly turret, the crew’s layout was revised. The cockpit and front-end glazing was again modified, the MB.170-02’s tail was retained. Intended specifically for reconnaissance with a secondary bombing mission, the prototype took the air on 5 January 1939 in Villacoublay piloted by René Le Bail with 14M-20/21 Gnome & Rhône engines of 1,030 hp. Six pre-production aircraft were ordered to activate the development of the twin-engine aircraft, but this aircraft proved to be very fast and easy to fly from the first tests, manoeuvrable even at very high altitude, and an order for 50 serial copies was notified on 1 February 1939. Intended to replace the Potez 63.11 of thewere to receive 14M-48/49 Gnome & Rhône engines of 1100 hp, but the first tests carried out with the pre-series aircraft revealed cooling problems. It was therefore necessary to reduce the diameter of the propeller pans in order to increase the airflow on the cylinder heads[2]. Finally, just before the commissioning it was decided to increase the armament, which was finally attached to two 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns in the wings and three mounted in removable ventral fairings pulling forward, a dorsal machine gun and a ventral weapon of the same type pulling backwards. The belly compartment allowed 400 kg of bombs to be carried, but in its initial version its capacity was in fact limited to 8 40 kg bombs which was clearly insufficient in operations. The production was launched in November 1939 at the SNCASO plant in Bordeaux-Mérignac, but because of the modifications made to the planes during their development the first 20 MB.174 were accepted by the air force only in February 1940 and put into service in March 1940 to the strategic reconnaissance group GR II/33. 56 copies were delivered until June 22, 1940. In operations this twin-engine aircraft was able to outrun the best German fighters then in service and only 4 MB.174 were lost to the enemy during the Battle of France. | |
− | + | D | |
− | During Battle of France | + | During Battle of France in may 1940, the famous French writer Antoine de Saint-Exupery flew a Bloch M. B 174 with the Groupe de reconnaissance II/33 in a squadron of Armée de l'Air. On 23rd may of 1940, he made a recon mission above the city of Arras during the German invasion and his plane was heavily damaged by Flak and attacked by fighters however he managed to get back at his airfield and save his crew. Due to this heroic action he was awarded of Croix de Guerre (Iron Cross) on 2nd June 1940. This mission inspired him a book named Pilote de Guerre. (War Pilot) |
== Media == | == Media == | ||
− | + | ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' | |
− | |||
− | |||
− | |||
− | |||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
Line 180: | Line 249: | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
− | + | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | |
+ | |||
* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
− | * ''other literature.'' | + | * ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;'' |
− | + | * ''other literature.'' | |
− | |||
− | |||
{{France bombers}} | {{France bombers}} |
Revision as of 17:16, 24 October 2019
Contents
Description
The M.B.174A-3 is a rank I French frontline bomber
with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB) and 2.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".
General info
Flight Performance
Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.
Characteristics | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Stock | |||||||
Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m) |
Max altitude (meters) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (meters/second) |
Take-off run (meters) | |||
AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | ||
? | ? | ?,000 | ??.? | ??.? | ??.? | ??.? | ??? |
Upgraded | |||||||
Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m) |
Max altitude (meters) | Turn time (seconds) | Rate of climb (meters/second) |
Take-off run (meters) | |||
AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | ||
? | ? | ?,000 | ??.? | ??.? | ?.? | ?.? | ? |
Details
Features | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Combat flap | Take-off flap | Landing flap | Air brakes | Arrestor gear |
X | X | X | X | X |
Limits | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Wing-break speed (km/h) |
Gear limit (km/h) |
Combat flap (km/h) |
Max Static G | |
+ | - | |||
??? | ??? | ??? | ~?? | ~? |
Optimal velocities | |||
---|---|---|---|
Ailerons (km/h) |
Rudder (km/h) |
Elevators (km/h) |
Radiator (km/h) |
< ??? | < ??? | < ??? | > ??? |
Compressor (RB/SB) | ||
---|---|---|
Setting 1 | ||
Optimal altitude | 100% Engine power | WEP Engine power |
?,??? m | ??? hp | ?,??? hp |
Survivability and armour
- 8 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head.
Armaments
Offensive armament
The M.B.174A-3 is armed with:
- 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns (600 RPG = 1,000 total)
The two machine guns are arranged with one mounted in each wing. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.
Suspended armament
The M.B.174A-3 suspended armament configurations can include:
- 8 x 50 kg G.A.M.Mn 50 bombs (bomb bay)
- 1 x 500 kg №.2 bomb (external fuselage pylon)
Defensive armament
The M.B.174A-3 defensive weapons include:
- 2 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, dorsal turret (400 RPG = 800 total)
- 3 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, ventral turret (500 RPG = 1,500 total)
Usage in battles
M.B.174 is rather maneuverable flying in a straight line since the aircraft can roll pretty well and has acceptable elevator motion. When in a combat situation, this changes considerable as the plane is difficult to handle in dives and turns. Trying to approach a bombing target in a diving turn, the M.B.174 is very slow to turn around and the bow keeps pointing way off the line of flight. Even using full rudder control, the bow of the plane just does not follow the turn, making it likely that the bombs will miss their target.
The 50 kg bombs are not effective against any ground targets so it is imperative to research the heavier loads immediately. In attack mode, the 7.5 mm MG don't make much of a dent on enemies, and since ammo runs out quickly, any attack must be carefully planned. In addition, the M.B.174 does not conserve energy well and trying to climb will reduce speed to under 200 km/h, in which case the pilot can expect to be toasted if there are enemies anywhere in the vicinity.
Tactics should be focused on bombing ground targets with a straight line approach and a clear exit away from the enemy. Attacking bombers at higher altitude is not advisable. Fighters busy in turn fights can be attacked if you have an altitude advantage and a line of exit.
Manual Engine Control
MEC elements | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Mixer | Pitch | Radiator | Supercharger | Turbocharger | ||
Oil | Water | Type | ||||
Not controllable | Controllable Automatic pitch |
Controllable | Not controllable | Combined | Controllable | Not controllable |
Modules
Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry |
---|---|---|---|
IA | |||
II | |||
III | |||
IV |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Extremely maneuverable for a bomber
- Has offensive armament, though weak, many bombers cannot say the same
Cons:
- Extremely weak payload
- Poor defensive armament
- Poor acceleration
- Need to use rudder heavily in diving turns
History
Evolution of the MB.170, this new model definitively abandoned the belly turret, the crew’s layout was revised. The cockpit and front-end glazing was again modified, the MB.170-02’s tail was retained. Intended specifically for reconnaissance with a secondary bombing mission, the prototype took the air on 5 January 1939 in Villacoublay piloted by René Le Bail with 14M-20/21 Gnome & Rhône engines of 1,030 hp. Six pre-production aircraft were ordered to activate the development of the twin-engine aircraft, but this aircraft proved to be very fast and easy to fly from the first tests, manoeuvrable even at very high altitude, and an order for 50 serial copies was notified on 1 February 1939. Intended to replace the Potez 63.11 of thewere to receive 14M-48/49 Gnome & Rhône engines of 1100 hp, but the first tests carried out with the pre-series aircraft revealed cooling problems. It was therefore necessary to reduce the diameter of the propeller pans in order to increase the airflow on the cylinder heads[2]. Finally, just before the commissioning it was decided to increase the armament, which was finally attached to two 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns in the wings and three mounted in removable ventral fairings pulling forward, a dorsal machine gun and a ventral weapon of the same type pulling backwards. The belly compartment allowed 400 kg of bombs to be carried, but in its initial version its capacity was in fact limited to 8 40 kg bombs which was clearly insufficient in operations. The production was launched in November 1939 at the SNCASO plant in Bordeaux-Mérignac, but because of the modifications made to the planes during their development the first 20 MB.174 were accepted by the air force only in February 1940 and put into service in March 1940 to the strategic reconnaissance group GR II/33. 56 copies were delivered until June 22, 1940. In operations this twin-engine aircraft was able to outrun the best German fighters then in service and only 4 MB.174 were lost to the enemy during the Battle of France.
D
During Battle of France in may 1940, the famous French writer Antoine de Saint-Exupery flew a Bloch M. B 174 with the Groupe de reconnaissance II/33 in a squadron of Armée de l'Air. On 23rd may of 1940, he made a recon mission above the city of Arras during the German invasion and his plane was heavily damaged by Flak and attacked by fighters however he managed to get back at his airfield and save his crew. Due to this heroic action he was awarded of Croix de Guerre (Iron Cross) on 2nd June 1940. This mission inspired him a book named Pilote de Guerre. (War Pilot)
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
- other literature.
France bombers | |
---|---|
Farman | F.222.2 · N.C.223.3 |
Latécoère | Late 298D |
Potez | Potez 633 |
Liore et Olivier | LeO 451 early · LeO 451 late |
Bloch | M.B.174A-3 · M.B.162 · M.B.175T |
American | V-156-F · Martin 167-A3 · ▄A-35B · ▄SB2C-5 · B-26C · ▄PBY-5A Late · ▄PB4Y-2 |
British | Lancaster MR.7 |