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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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* {{Specs-Link|uk_cruiser_kent}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|uk_cruiser_kent}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|uk_cruiser_london}}
 
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* {{Specs-Link|uk_cruiser_norfolk}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|uk_cruiser_york}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|uk_cruiser_york}}
  
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=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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|-
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! 1,000 m !! 2,500 m !! 5,000 m !! 7,500 m !! 10,000 m !! 15,000 m
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| 8 inch HE || HE || 62 || 62 || 62 || 62 || 62 || 62
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| 8 inch Mark I.B. SAPCBC || SAPCBC || 274 || 248 || 209 || 178 || 153 || 119
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="10" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(s)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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|-
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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|-
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| 8 inch HE || HE || 855 || 116.1 || 0 || 0.1 || 10 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| 8 inch Mark I.B. SAPCBC || SAPCBC || 855 || 116.1 || 0.025 || 9 || 5.2 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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After World War I, the five major nations of the Allied Powers (the United States, United Kingdom, Japan, France, and Italy) agreed to put an end to the naval arms race that had occurred over the last 20 years. Codified in the Washington Naval Treaty in 1922, the five nations agreed to restrictions on new naval ships specifically defined as heavy cruisers by their 8-inch gun armament. The 8-inch/50 Mark VIII was designed to satisfy the restrictions of the Washington Naval Treaty. Originally constructed with an inner A tube, wire, B tube, and overlapping jacket, only half of these wire-wound built-up guns were actually given the inner A tube. The Mark VIII* was later created by relining all the guns with the inner A tube while the Mark VIII** was made without the wires like the original prototypes. The early guns were mounted in turrets intended to give high elevation angles to allow them to serve as dual-purpose guns; however, the mounts were problematic with the training and elevation gears being too slow to serve in this role. In total, 196 guns were built.
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The first class of heavy cruisers constructed to use these guns and satisfy the restrictions of the treaty were the [[County (Family)|''County'' class]] ordered in 1924 which were armed with 8 of these guns in twin mounts of the more reliable Mark II type. However, due to budget cuts after the war, the class was actually divided into three sub-types. The [[HMS Kent|''Kent'' class]] was the original class ordered but it was followed by the [[HMS London|''London'' class]] and the [[HMS Norfolk|''Norfolk'' class]] with slight differences to hull and superstructure. Despite the improvements of the Mark II mounts for these 8-inch guns, the issues were not fully ironed out as there were still complaints about the mountings and torpedoes on HMS ''London'' as late as 1938. The only other class to use these 8-inch guns was the [[HMS York|''York'' class]] which used triple turrets, but, due to being smaller than their ''County''-class predecessors, had only 6 guns. Another six guns were used during World War II to serve as coastal defense guns in the Dover-Folkstone area.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
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''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 
* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
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== External links ==
 
== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  

Revision as of 09:19, 25 October 2022

Description

Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
8 inch HE HE 62 62 62 62 62 62
8 inch Mark I.B. SAPCBC SAPCBC 274 248 209 178 153 119
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
8 inch HE HE 855 116.1 0 0.1 10 79° 80° 81°
8 inch Mark I.B. SAPCBC SAPCBC 855 116.1 0.025 9 5.2 48° 63° 71°

Comparison with analogues

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Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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Pros:

Cons:

History

After World War I, the five major nations of the Allied Powers (the United States, United Kingdom, Japan, France, and Italy) agreed to put an end to the naval arms race that had occurred over the last 20 years. Codified in the Washington Naval Treaty in 1922, the five nations agreed to restrictions on new naval ships specifically defined as heavy cruisers by their 8-inch gun armament. The 8-inch/50 Mark VIII was designed to satisfy the restrictions of the Washington Naval Treaty. Originally constructed with an inner A tube, wire, B tube, and overlapping jacket, only half of these wire-wound built-up guns were actually given the inner A tube. The Mark VIII* was later created by relining all the guns with the inner A tube while the Mark VIII** was made without the wires like the original prototypes. The early guns were mounted in turrets intended to give high elevation angles to allow them to serve as dual-purpose guns; however, the mounts were problematic with the training and elevation gears being too slow to serve in this role. In total, 196 guns were built. The first class of heavy cruisers constructed to use these guns and satisfy the restrictions of the treaty were the County class ordered in 1924 which were armed with 8 of these guns in twin mounts of the more reliable Mark II type. However, due to budget cuts after the war, the class was actually divided into three sub-types. The Kent class was the original class ordered but it was followed by the London class and the Norfolk class with slight differences to hull and superstructure. Despite the improvements of the Mark II mounts for these 8-inch guns, the issues were not fully ironed out as there were still complaints about the mountings and torpedoes on HMS London as late as 1938. The only other class to use these 8-inch guns was the York class which used triple turrets, but, due to being smaller than their County-class predecessors, had only 6 guns. Another six guns were used during World War II to serve as coastal defense guns in the Dover-Folkstone area.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Britain naval cannons
20 mm  20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mark V · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mark 24
40 mm  2pdr QF Mk.IIc · 2pdr QF Mk.VIII · 2pdr Rolls Royce · QF Mark V · QF Mark VII · QF STAAG Mark II
47 mm  3 pdr QF Hotchkiss
57 mm  6pdr 7cwt QF Mk IIA · 6pdr QF Mk.V
76 mm  3 inch 12pdr 12 cwt QF Mk.V · 3 inch/70 Mark 6 · 76 mm/45 QF 3in 20cwt HA Mark I · 76 mm/50 12pdr 18cwt QF Mark I · OQF 3in 20cwt
102 mm  4 inch/40 QF mark III · 4 in QF Mark V · 4 inch/45 Mark XVI · 4 inch/50 BL Mark VII · BL Mark IX
114 mm  4.5 inch/45 QF Mark IV · 4.5 inch/45 QF Mark V · 8cwt QF Mk I
120 mm  4.7 inch/45 Mk.XII
133 mm  5.25 inch/50 QF Mark I
152 mm  6 inch/45 BL Mark VII · 6 inch/45 BL Mark XII · 6 inch/50 BL Mark XXIII · 6 inch/50 QF Mark N5
190 mm  7.5 inch/45 BL Mk.VI
203 mm  8 inch/50 Mark VIII
305 mm  305 mm/45 Mark X · 12 inch/50 Mark XI
343 mm  13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) · 13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(L)
381 mm  15 inch/42 BL Mark I
  Foreign:
20 mm  Rh202 (Germany)
40 mm  Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA)
76 mm  3 inch Mk.33 (USA) · 76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact (Italy)