RN Comandante Margottini
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Description
The Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro-class, RN Comandante Margottini, project is a rank II Italian destroyer with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Raining Fire".
General info
Survivability and armour
The RN Comandante Margottini is very reminiscent of the RN Etna for the hull it has. The dimensions are much smaller, but the compactness and strength is practically the same. It has a very good surface slightly angled at the front, which facilitates the rebound and the non-penetration of the bullets that arrive at the front of the ship. The wide hull and shallow draft allow the Margottini to remain very stable even during sharp turns. The armor of the hull is composed of 25 mm steel which protects it considerably against calibers up to 152 mm. The ship is embarked with 277 sailors which brings her to the second place for the ship with more crew at her battle rating, above her we find the Type 1934A. Even though she has less crew the Margottini can prove to be a great ship in battle. The crew is well distributed throughout the ship to maximize repairs and maximum ship survival.
Mobility
The RN Comandante Margottini is propelled at a maximum speed of 65 km/h by two turbines with a total power of 60'000 HP. The engine room is located in the central part of the ship, slightly below sea level, which gives it a little protection. The rudder transits from one end to the other in just 5 seconds, which is very useful in combat situations to change trajectory quickly and effectively. In reverse the Margottini can travel at the modest speed of -36 km/h.| Mobility Characteristics | |||
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| Upgraded | 79 | 35 | |
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| Upgraded | 65 | 29 | |
Modifications and economy
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Armament
Primary armament
The 135/45 cannons produced by Oto Melara and Ansaldo were built with the intention of recreating the same range as the 120/50 cannons, the only difference being the projectile which exits slower, but with much less dispersion. This type of cannon was mounted on the battleships Dulio and Andrea Doria and on the light cruisers of the Capitani Romani class. Italian engineers had planned to mount this type of armament on the Etna and Comandante Margottini classes, but unfortunately these were never finished. The 135mm cannon of the Margottini has a 9 second reload. Compared to other ships this is an above average reloading time, which penalises it a bit. As ammunition goes it can load HE with 1.8 kg of explosive mass and a penetration of 23 mm, while the APHE has 1.4 kg of explosive and can penetrate 174 mm of armor. To conclude, it can load the HE-TF with the same amount of explosive as the HE but with greater efficiency against aerial targets. Speaking of ballistics, the Margottini is found with fairly slow rounds. The HE, APHE and HE-TF reach a velocity of 825 m/s just outside the muzzle of the gun, which doesn't help much in long-range combat. It is recommended to use APHEs as they are much more effective than common HEs, although using APHEs for all targets is not really suitable, for example, against destroyers or ships with thin armor HEs are perfect. Unfortunately, due to the low velocity of the projectiles, we do not recommend engaging targets beyond 7 kilometers.
Secondary armament
This 37mm cannon was built by Ernesto Breda as an automatic anti-aircraft weapon. The 37mm/54 Breda cannon proved to be particularly effective at short-medium range and after several tests the Regia Marina in 1934 decided to use them in twin installations (mod. 32). On the Comandanti Margottini 12 model 39 cannons were installed. The model 39 was the first of the two individually mounted models. The 12 37mm cannons are divided into two groups, four are arranged on the sides of the ship immediately behind the control room and the remaining eight are well distributed in the middle and rear of the ship. The maximum range of the cannons is 5.3 km and the maximum effectiveness is 2.5 km and they are armed with tracer bullets, unfortunately not modifiable. These 12 cannons are very effective to ward off aircraft or to cause superficial damage to other destroyers. If there are small boats trying to get too close the 37mm will have no problem sinking them.
Anti-aircraft armament
The Breda 20/65 was built by Ernesto Breda in 1932 as an anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapon. From day one it was immediately compared to the 20mm guns of Oerlikon, Lübee and Madsen. After long periods to decide on the correct weapon the Regia Marina in 1935 made its decision. It was decided to mount the 20mm Breda guns on the ships that needed them, including the RN Commander Margottini. Unfortunately, only two of these cannons were mounted and they were located at the front of the ship, one on the left side and the other on the right side. The 20mm has three belts available: the Universal Belt, the HE Belt and the AP Belt. All three of the various combinations penetrate 38 mm. The maximum range for these guns is 4 km and the maximum effective range is 2 km. These two 20 mm Breda can also be very effective against small boats that come too close to the ship.
Additional armament
In addition to the considerable main and auxiliary armament, the Commander Margottini can also carry 10 depth charges and 6 torpedoes. The depth charges are stored in the rear part of the ship, more precisely at the height of the second main turret. The charges in question are the B TG 100 with 100 kg of explosives inside them and can be equipped after researching the modification. The depth charges are super useful when you make very close encounters or when you are followed by a ship. It only takes one charge to eliminate your opponent. In addition to depth charges there is the possibility to charge 6 torpedoes, more precisely the S.I. 270. These torpedoes without the researched and equipped modification can travel in water up to 93 km/h but only for 4 Km, while with the researched and equipped modification the torpedo loses 19 km/h of speed, but gains 8 Km of radius more. Torpedoes are an effective way to surprise the enemy without them expecting it, either at the beginning of the game or during a firefight.
Usage in battles
The RN Commander Margottini is a very good ship in almost every area. Its excellent survivability gives it a very good fighting spirit, it is recommended to use this ship with the support of allies. It plays very well in the front line, to face off against other destroyers and light cruisers. If possible it would be best to have the front of the ship facing the target so that it can absorb as many hits as possible. One of the most sensitive parts of the ship is the command deck, it is very large and often the first to be hit in a firefight. This can be annoying because you can neither defend nor hide, it is the achilles heel of the ship. A counter tactic to reduce this is to zig-zag the ship or move just after firing or noticing the enemy has fired. We do not recommend engaging enemies beyond 7 km as the 135mm cannons will not do much damage, unfortunately it is due to the poor projectile speed, fired from her main cannons. If the enemy is very close to reduce the maximum damage angle the ship slightly to the left or right, this will also allow the use of the turrets in the rear of the ship. If possible avoid any kind of clash with ships above the Br. of 5.0 as the Margottini could be a bit 'in trouble. Returning to its Battle Rating, beware of German ships and those with automatic reloading systems such as: Fletcher, Akizuki, Pr. 35. With their high rate of fire, they can decimate the crew in a few seconds without causing any major damage to the ship.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- -Excellent survival due to it’s armour, strongest point have 16 mm
- -Good number of crew on the ship, 277 members
- -Excellent forward and reverse speed, +65 km/h ; -36 km/h.
- -Excellent maneuverability at full power.
- -After an abrupt change of direction she doesn't stagger too much.
- -Excellent auxiliary and anti-aircraft armament.
Cons:
- -Slow projectiles, very penalized at long distances, 825 m/s
- -Very large bridge, can be destroyed easily with salvo’s.
- -Main armament has a slow reloading speed, 9 seconds.
- -Parking and yawing of auxiliary armament are quite slow. 20 grad/sec and 15 grad/sec
- -Excessively long hull, its length does not facilitate the avoidance of enemy shots and torpedoes.
History
During World War II, the Regia Marina did not have enough destroyers available, by September 1940, 7 destroyers had been lost in combat, so a decision was initiated to build 7 new destroyers to replace those destroyed. To save development and design time, additional Soldier Classes were ordered. These new Soldati Classes got an additional 100 tons more in weight because of the new anti-aircraft and anti-submarine armament which was updated, the construction of the first units took place in October 1940 and 5 ships entered service between February and August 1942. During World War II, the armament of Soldier Class ships was modified several times and upgraded, eliminating a row of torpedo tubes and replacing them with anti-aircraft armament. During 1941, while the second series Soldier Classes were being built, it became clear that more destroyers had to be built, in fact the Navy Ministry decided to incorporate all changes on destroyers, based on the experience gained in the war, so it was understood that a new class of destroyers had to be started to be developed. The committee assigned the task of designing the new class to General Carlo Sigismondi (Corpo del Genio Navale) who was assisted by Lieutenant Colonel Giuseppe Malagoli (Corpo del Genio Navale). The new class was practically an update of the Soldier Class with the addition of more weight, the design of the ship changed in almost all parts except the layout of the engines which did not change, but the engines were upgraded to 60,000 horsepower. The speed was reduced to 35 knots, a speed considered sufficient for all the missions that the new class of destroyers had to perform. The first drawings of the projects were made quickly and the first orders were placed in September 1941, the construction of the first two units took place in the Cantieri del Tirreno di Riva Trigoso on 10 September 1941, while other two units were allocated in the Cantieri Navali Riuniti di Ancona and four units were allocated in the Cantieri Navali Odero Terni Orlando (OTO) di Livorno on 27 September 1941. After these 8 units it was planned to produce also the second series of this class of ship, the significant change of this new class of ship was the elimination of the twin 120/50 mm guns with the replacement of them with single 135/45 mm guns, then as anti-aircraft armament it was composed of 12 Breda mod.39 37/54 mm machine guns, the initial designs of the class when completed showed that the ship would normally have 2600 tons of weight, 120 m in length, with a smokestack that was clearly inspired by the Soldati class. During 1942 the project was again modified by eliminating the fifth gun positioned in the center of the ship to accommodate more anti-aircraft armament, in September 1942 the design was blocked in the same month orders were placed for 8 units of the second series (2 in Trigoso, 2 in Livorno and 4 in CRDA Trieste). Later there was also a modification for the elimination of the stern director to favor the addition of more anti-aircraft armament. Orders were placed for 8 units of the third series on 7 October 1942 with CRDA Trieste. The name of the new class was called: Comandanti Medaglie D’Oro. This name was chosen to remember the commanders who had received the gold medal (Medaglie D’Oro). At the end, between May 1944 and January 1945, aerial bombardments were carried out on the shipyards where the ships were being built, as a result of the damage they were demolished.
Expected Units
Comandante Margottini
Comandante Baroni
Comandante Borsini
Comandante Botti
Comandante Casana
Comandante Corsi
Comandante De Cristofaro
Comandante Dell’Anno
Comandante Esposito
Comandante Fiorelli
Comandante Fontana
Comandante Giannattasio
Comandante Giobbe
Comandante Giorgis
Comandante Milano
Comandante Moccagatta
Comandante Novaro
Comandante Rodocanacchi
Comandante Ruta
Comandante Toscano
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| Italy destroyers | |
|---|---|
| Regia Marina | |
| Aquila-class | RN Aquila |
| Leone-class | RN Leone · RN Tigre |
| Turbine-class | RN Aquilone · RN Turbine |
| Navigatori-class | RN Da Verazzano |
| Dardo-class | RN Dardo |
| Soldati-class | RN Aviere · RN Corazziere · RN Geniere |
| Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro-class | RN Comandante Margottini |
| Marina Militare | |
| Fante-class* | Geniere |
| Indomito-class | Impetuoso |
| * Modified Fletcher-class destroyers | |
