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| − | + | Armour protection is mediocre, at best. The frontal armour will do little to stop standard guns like the American 37 mm or the Soviet 45 mm, and the sides are vulnerable to autocannons or even the infamous M2 Browning at close ranges. What you do have, however, is a whopping 12 crewmen, which means that even if your main crew has been disintegrated, you are still in the fight as long as you don't get ammo-racked. | |
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| − | Mobility of the 2C is sluggish; good luck trying to rush capture points at the start. | + | Mobility of the 2C is sluggish; good luck trying to rush capture points at the start. The 2C does have an electric transmission, giving it the benefit of being able to quickly reverse from a bad situation instead of needing to turn 180 degrees like most tanks. |
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| + | The 75 mm, despite looking impressive, is best attributed as lackluster, even underpowered. Your penetration is on par with German short 75 mm guns, but unlike the German versions, the 2C's gun only has access to its basic APHE round and a HE round. There is no HEAT shells available to counter Matilda or Churchill tanks, and you will suffer against M4 Shermans without proper support. Even the reload rate is inferior, with 5.5 seconds at max crew where pre-F2 Pz.IVs can already achieve about 4 seconds out of the box. | ||
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| − | The | + | The two machine guns on the 2C are of dubious utility. The front one has limited traverse arcs by virtue of being bow-mounted, so its use is limited to whatever you point your tank towards. The rear turret is of more doubtful use, however, as it cannot fire to the front and, being a normal MG, lacks the power to damage anything short of open-tops. |
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Revision as of 03:43, 4 April 2023
| This page is about the French heavy tank 2C. For the other version, see 2C bis. |
Contents
Description
The Char FCM 2C is a rank II French heavy tank with a battle rating of 2.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Sky Guardians".
General info
Survivability and armour
Armour protection is mediocre, at best. The frontal armour will do little to stop standard guns like the American 37 mm or the Soviet 45 mm, and the sides are vulnerable to autocannons or even the infamous M2 Browning at close ranges. What you do have, however, is a whopping 12 crewmen, which means that even if your main crew has been disintegrated, you are still in the fight as long as you don't get ammo-racked.
Armour type:
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | ___ mm | ___ mm Top ___ mm Bottom |
___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Turret | ___ - ___ mm Turret front ___ mm Gun mantlet |
___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Cupola | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm |
Notes:
Mobility
Mobility of the 2C is sluggish; good luck trying to rush capture points at the start. The 2C does have an electric transmission, giving it the benefit of being able to quickly reverse from a bad situation instead of needing to turn 180 degrees like most tanks.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 16 | 16 | 70 | _,___ | 954 | __.__ | 13.63 |
| Realistic | 16 | 16 | _,___ | 500 | __.__ | 7.14 | |
Modifications and economy
| Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Main armament
The 75 mm, despite looking impressive, is best attributed as lackluster, even underpowered. Your penetration is on par with German short 75 mm guns, but unlike the German versions, the 2C's gun only has access to its basic APHE round and a HE round. There is no HEAT shells available to counter Matilda or Churchill tanks, and you will suffer against M4 Shermans without proper support. Even the reload rate is inferior, with 5.5 seconds at max crew where pre-F2 Pz.IVs can already achieve about 4 seconds out of the box.
| 75 mm APX Canon de 75 mm modèle 1897 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 128 | ±20° | ±140° | - | 8.1 | 11.2 | 13.6 | 15.0 | 16.0 | 7.15 | 6.32 | 5.83 | 5.50 |
| Realistic | 5.9 | 7.0 | 8.5 | 9.4 | 10.0 | ||||||||
Ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| Mle1900 | HE | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 |
| Mle1916 | APHE | 66 | 65 | 58 | 51 | 45 | 40 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| Mle1900 | HE | 500 | 5.3 | 0 | 0.1 | 695 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Mle1916 | APHE | 558 | 7.44 | 1.2 | 14 | 350 | 47° | 60° | 65° | |||
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 128 | 97 (+31) | 67 (+61) | 61 (+67) | 55 (+73) | 28 (+100) | 1 (+127) | No |
Machine guns
The two machine guns on the 2C are of dubious utility. The front one has limited traverse arcs by virtue of being bow-mounted, so its use is limited to whatever you point your tank towards. The rear turret is of more doubtful use, however, as it cannot fire to the front and, being a normal MG, lacks the power to damage anything short of open-tops.
| 8 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1914 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Bow | 5000 (150) | 600 rpm | __° | __° |
| Rear turret | 5000 (150) | ___ | __° | __° |
Usage in battles
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Pros and cons
Pros:
- Neutral steering gives the tank decent reflex mobility
- Can climb over rough terrain with ease due to its World War I design
- Reverse gearbox lets you pull out quickly of dangerous situations
- Has a dozen crew members, highly survivable
- Flank attacks from behind are easily shrugged off due to containing no essential crew
- Large unoccupied zones, can absorb shells
Cons:
- Awfully slow top speed
- Armour is mediocre at best, very vulnerable to high calibre HE or autocannons
- Limited turret traverse, very prone to flanking
- Poor elevation and depression angles
- Extremely large, easily spotted and hit
History
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Media
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See also
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- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
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- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| France heavy tanks | |
|---|---|
| B1 | B1 bis · B1 ter |
| 2C | 2C · 2C bis |
| ARL-44 | ARL-44 (ACL-1) |
| AMX-50 | Somua SM · AMX-50 Surbaissé · AMX-50 Surblindé |
| USA | ▄M4A3E2 |
