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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]] as part of the release of the fleet open beta test. | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]] as part of the release of the fleet open beta test. | ||
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| + | The Z12 Erich Giese was a German Type 1934A destroyer, built as the eighth of twelve ships of this type for the German Navy in the 1930s. The ship was laid down on 3 May 1935 and she was launched on 12 March 1937. | ||
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| + | The ship is extremely agile for a ship of this size. Her main armament consists of five 12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 cannons, while the secondary armament consists of two 3.7 cm SK C/30 cannons. For air defence, the Z12 Erich Giese has six 2 cm/65 C/38 machine guns. For heavier targets, the Z12 Erich Giese also has two torpedo launchers, each equipped with 4 x 53.3 cm G7a torpedoes. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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=== Primary armament === | === Primary armament === | ||
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| + | {{:12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 (128 mm)/Ammunition|12.8 cm Sprgr. L/4.4 Kpf.Z, 12.8 cm Sprgr. L/4.4 Bd.Z, 12.8 cm Sprgr. L/4.4 Zt.Z}} | ||
| − | + | The main armament of the Z 12 Erich Giese consists in five 128 mm naval cannons, two of them are located at the front of the ship, one is located in the middle of the ship and the remaining two are located at the back. | |
| − | + | These cannons are able to shoot three types of ammunition. First, the Sprgr. Kpf.Z HE shell with 2 kg of TNT equivalent and a muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. This is the standard ammunition for the Z12 Erich Giese. The next one is the Sprgr. Bd.z, a base-fused HE shell with more penetration in but with less explosive mass, only 1.4 kg of TNT equivalent and the same muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. The last shell is the Sprgr. Zt.Z and it comes with the same amount of TNT and muzzle velocity as the Sprgr. Bd.Z but it is equiped with a time fuse, which can be useful when engaging enemy aircraft, and can compensate the lack of air defense of the Z12 Erich Giese | |
=== Secondary armament === | === Secondary armament === | ||
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{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}} | {{Specs-Fleet-Additional}} | ||
{{main|G7a (533 mm)|WBG depth charge}} | {{main|G7a (533 mm)|WBG depth charge}} | ||
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| − | + | The Z12 Erich Giese is equipped with two quadruple torped launchers, which are located in the middle of the ship. The G7a is a deadly torpedo and can hullbreak any destroyer and can severly damage cruisers and battleships. The Z12 Erich Giese has also the option to use 4 WBG Depth Charges. | |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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| + | * High mobility and agility | ||
| + | * Powerful torpedos | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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| + | * Lack of air-defense | ||
| + | * Lack of armour | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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* [[Type 1934A (Family)]] | * [[Type 1934A (Family)]] | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:13, 4 November 2024
Contents
Description
The Type 1934A-class, Z12 Erich Giese, 1940 is a rank II German destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea" as part of the release of the fleet open beta test.
The Z12 Erich Giese was a German Type 1934A destroyer, built as the eighth of twelve ships of this type for the German Navy in the 1930s. The ship was laid down on 3 May 1935 and she was launched on 12 March 1937.
The ship is extremely agile for a ship of this size. Her main armament consists of five 12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 cannons, while the secondary armament consists of two 3.7 cm SK C/30 cannons. For air defence, the Z12 Erich Giese has six 2 cm/65 C/38 machine guns. For heavier targets, the Z12 Erich Giese also has two torpedo launchers, each equipped with 4 x 53.3 cm G7a torpedoes.
General info
Survivability and armour
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Mobility
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| Mobility Characteristics | |||||
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| Game Mode | Upgrade Status | Maximum Speed (km/h) | Turn Time (s) | Turn Radius (m) | |
| Forward | Reverse | ||||
| AB | Stock | 63 | 23 | ~152.22 | ~296.09 |
| Upgraded | 86 | 31 | ___ | ___ | |
| RB/SB | |||||
| Upgraded | 70 | 25 | ___ | ___ | |
Modifications and economy
| Seakeeping | Unsinkability | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Armament
Primary armament
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 1,000 m | 2,500 m | 5,000 m | 7,500 m | 10,000 m | 15,000 m | ||
| Sprgr. L/4.4 Kpf.Z | HE | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 |
| Sprgr. L/4.4 Bd.Z | HE | 59 | 50 | 38 | 30 | 24 | 18 |
| Sprgr. L/4.4 Zt.Z | HE-TF | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (s) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| Sprgr. L/4.4 Kpf.Z | HE | 830 | 28 | 0 | 0.1 | 1.91 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Sprgr. L/4.4 Bd.Z | HE | 830 | 28 | 0.015 | 5 | 1.4 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Sprgr. L/4.4 Zt.Z | HE-TF | 830 | 28 | 0 | 0.1 | 1.91 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
The main armament of the Z 12 Erich Giese consists in five 128 mm naval cannons, two of them are located at the front of the ship, one is located in the middle of the ship and the remaining two are located at the back.
These cannons are able to shoot three types of ammunition. First, the Sprgr. Kpf.Z HE shell with 2 kg of TNT equivalent and a muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. This is the standard ammunition for the Z12 Erich Giese. The next one is the Sprgr. Bd.z, a base-fused HE shell with more penetration in but with less explosive mass, only 1.4 kg of TNT equivalent and the same muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. The last shell is the Sprgr. Zt.Z and it comes with the same amount of TNT and muzzle velocity as the Sprgr. Bd.Z but it is equiped with a time fuse, which can be useful when engaging enemy aircraft, and can compensate the lack of air defense of the Z12 Erich Giese
Secondary armament
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| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| Spgr L/4.1 Lh 37 | HE | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
| Psgr L'spur Zerl | APCBC | 87 | 84 | 71 | 58 | 48 | 39 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| Spgr L/4.1 Lh 37 | HE | 1,000 | 0.75 | 0 | 0.1 | 27.4 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Psgr L'spur Zerl | APCBC | 1,000 | 0.82 | 1.3 | 15 | 37.4 | 48° | 63° | 71° | |||
Anti-aircraft armament
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Additional armament
The Z12 Erich Giese is equipped with two quadruple torped launchers, which are located in the middle of the ship. The G7a is a deadly torpedo and can hullbreak any destroyer and can severly damage cruisers and battleships. The Z12 Erich Giese has also the option to use 4 WBG Depth Charges.
Usage in battles
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Pros and cons
Pros:
- High mobility and agility
- Powerful torpedos
Cons:
- Lack of air-defense
- Lack of armour
History
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See also
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External links
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| Friedrich Krupp Germaniawerft | |
|---|---|
| Destroyers | |
| Type 1934A | Z12 Erich Giese |
| Heavy Cruisers | |
| Admiral Hipper-class | Prinz Eugen |
| Battleships | |
| Bayern-class | SMS Sachsen |
| Germany destroyers | |
|---|---|
| Torpedo boats | |
| Type 1924 | Jaguar · Leopard · Luchs |
| Type 1939 | T22 · T31 |
| Destoyers | |
| Type 1934A | Z12 Erich Giese · Z15 Erich Steinbrinck |
| Type 1936 | Z20 Karl Galster · Z22 Anton Schmitt |
| Type 1936A | Z25 · Z32 |
| Type 1936B | Z43 |
| Type 1936C | Z46 · Z47 |
