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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | '''75 mm/50 model 1922''' is a French naval gun. | + | '''75 mm/50 model 1922''' is a French naval gun. Though its usage in the game is mostly as a secondary gun, it can also be a dedicated anti-air gun with time fused shells. |
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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| + | * {{Specs-Link|fr_destroyer_jaguar_class_chacal}} | ||
* {{Specs-Link|fr_cruiser_dugauy_class_dugauy_trouin}} | * {{Specs-Link|fr_cruiser_dugauy_class_dugauy_trouin}} | ||
| + | * {{Specs-Link|fr_cruiser_jeanne_darc}} | ||
| + | * {{Specs-Link|fr_battleship_bretagne_class_lorraine}} | ||
| + | * {{Specs-Link|fr_battleship_courbet_class_paris}} | ||
| + | * {{Specs-Link|fr_cruiser_dugauy_class_primaguet}} | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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=== Available ammunition === | === Available ammunition === | ||
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| − | + | {{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|75 mm OEA Mle 1925, 75 mm HE-TF OEA Mle 1925}} | |
| − | {{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|75 mm OEA Mle 1925}} | ||
=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
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| − | Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire | + | Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire. |
{{Naval 76mm HE}} | {{Naval 76mm HE}} | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | The gun | + | The gun can be used as a supplementary fire while the main guns are reloading, or to harass coastal vessels at medium range. In automated mode it will engage enemy airplanes at a longer range than the anti-aircraft cannons of the ship. |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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* Good muzzle velocity | * Good muzzle velocity | ||
* Acceptable rate of fire | * Acceptable rate of fire | ||
| + | * Good vertical guidance | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
* Below-average damage output | * Below-average damage output | ||
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* No gun shield | * No gun shield | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;'' | * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;'' | ||
| − | * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.'' | + | * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.'' --> |
| + | * [[90 mm/50 model 1926 (90 mm)|90 mm/50 model 1926]] <small>(Successor)</small> | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* [[wikipedia:Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924|[Wikipedia] Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924]] | * [[wikipedia:Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924|[Wikipedia] Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924]] | ||
* [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_3-50_m1922.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> 75 mm/50 (3") Model 1922, 1924 and 1927] | * [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_3-50_m1922.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> 75 mm/50 (3") Model 1922, 1924 and 1927] | ||
| − | * [https://clausuchronia.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/5-artillerie-et-systemes-darmes-de-la-marine-nationale-3/ <nowiki>[Clausuchronia]</nowiki> 5-Artillerie et systèmes | + | * [https://clausuchronia.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/5-artillerie-et-systemes-darmes-de-la-marine-nationale-3/ <nowiki>[Clausuchronia]</nowiki> 5-Artillerie et systèmes d'armes de la marine nationale (3) - Canon de 75mm modèle 1922] |
* Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press. | * Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press. | ||
Latest revision as of 09:12, 18 October 2024
Contents
Description
75 mm/50 model 1922 is a French naval gun. Though its usage in the game is mostly as a secondary gun, it can also be a dedicated anti-air gun with time fused shells.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 100 m | 1,000 m | 2,000 m | 3,000 m | 4,000 m | 5,000 m | ||
| OEA Mle 1925 | HE | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| HE-TF OEA Mle 1925 | HE-TF | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| OEA Mle 1925 | HE | 850 | 5.93 | 0 | 0.1 | 450 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| HE-TF OEA Mle 1925 | HE-TF | 850 | 5.93 | 0 | 0.1 | 450 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
Comparison with analogues
Comparing to other 76 mm guns it has only 1 shell of choice - High Explosive OEA Mle 1925 - limiting the options against both: aircraft and naval vessels. HE shell itself has an above-average muzzle velocity and a below-average damage output with a decent rate of fire.
| Cannon | Sample Ship | Ammo | Calibre (mm) |
Muzzle velocity (m/s) |
Sustained rate of fire (rounds/min) |
Targeting speed (°/s) |
Vertical guidance (°) |
TNT equivalent (kg) |
TNT equivalent per minute (kg) |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||
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| Horizontal | Vertical | |||||||||||
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3-inch Mark 10 | USS Raleigh | HE | 76 | 825 | 17 | 8.5 | 15 | 85 | 0.5 | 8.5 | 8 |
  
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3 inch Mk.33 | Geniere | HE | 76.2 | 823 | 6 | 20 | 26 | 85 | 0.5 | 3 | 8 |
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3-inch Mk.34 | USS Asheville | HE | 76.2 | 823 | 49.8 | 20 | 26 | 85 | 0.5 | 24.9 | 8 |
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34-K (76 mm) | Soobrazitelny | HE | 76.2 | 845 | 27 | 12 | 8 | 85 | 0.483 | 13.04 | 8 |
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39-K (76 mm) | Tashkent | HE | 76.2 | 845 | 20 | 18 | 11 | 87 | 0.483 | 9.66 | 8 |
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76 mm/60 AK-176M | MPK Pr.12412 | HE | 76.2 | 845 | 20 | 30 | 26 | 85 | 0.616 | 12.32 | 10 |
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AK-726 (76 mm) | SKR-7 | HE | 76.2 | 980 | 16.2 | 26 | 30 | 85 | 0.616 | 9.98 | 10 |
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3 inch 12pdr 12 cwt QF Mk.V (76 mm) | HMS Churchill | HE | 76.2 | 823 | 17 | 25 | 25 | 70 | 0.5 | 8.5 | 8 |
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76 mm/45 QF 3in 20cwt (76 mm) | HMS Valhalla | HE | 76.2 | 762 | 12 | 13 | 10 | 40 | 0.32 | 3.84 | 6 |
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Type 88 AA (75 mm) | Type 5 | HE | 75 | 720 | 20 | 21 | 20 | 50 | 0.42 | 8.4 | 5 |
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8 cm/40 3rd Year Type (76 mm) | Type K-8 No.13 late | HE | 76.2 | 685 | 20 | 11 | 10 | 75 | 0.48 | 9.6 | 8 |
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8 cm/60 Type 98 (76 mm) | IJN Agano | HE | 76.2 | 902 | 25 | 18 | 16 | 85 | 0.399 | 9.98 | 7 |
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76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 (76 mm) | RN Aquila | HE | 76.2 | 690 | 15 | 11 | 10 | 75 | 0.65 | 9.75 | 10 |
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76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact (76 mm) | Sparviero | HE | 76 | 925 | 85.7 | 51 | 30 | 85 | 1.08 | 92.57 | 15 |
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76 mm/62 SMP 3 (76 mm) | Albatros | HE | 76.2 | 930 | 8.57 | 34 | 60 | 85 | 0.864 | 7.40 | 15 |
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75 mm/50 model 1922 | Duguay-Trouin | HE | 75 | 850 | 15 | 19 | 18 | 85 | 0.45 | 6.75 | 8 |
Usage in battles
The gun can be used as a supplementary fire while the main guns are reloading, or to harass coastal vessels at medium range. In automated mode it will engage enemy airplanes at a longer range than the anti-aircraft cannons of the ship.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good muzzle velocity
- Acceptable rate of fire
- Good vertical guidance
Cons:
- Below-average damage output
- No gun shield
History
The 75/50 Modèle 1922 was a french gun designed during the dawn of the interwar period specifically to provide light French warships with the medium-range anti-air capability.
It was able to elevate -10° down or up to 90° up, being able to engage targets directly above the ship. It had a theoretical rate of fire of up to 15 rounds per minute (one each 4 seconds), but during trials it achieved an average rate of fire of 8 rounds per minute. Guns weighted a total of 1.07 tone.
The Gun used two types of shells:
- OEA Modèle 1925 - time-fused anti-air shell able to engage enemy airplanes up to 7500 meters altitude when firing 90° up. Shell had a total mass of 12.01 kg with 5.93 kg explosive filler, fired with a single BM5 propellant bag (2.18 kg)
- OEcl Modèle 1923 - Illumination rounds
- Practice - these were used for sea trials, salutes and warning shots
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
- 90 mm/50 model 1926 (Successor)
External links
- [Wikipedia] Canon de 75 mm modèle 1924
- [NavWeaps] 75 mm/50 (3") Model 1922, 1924 and 1927
- [Clausuchronia] 5-Artillerie et systèmes d'armes de la marine nationale (3) - Canon de 75mm modèle 1922
- Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press.
| France naval cannons | |
|---|---|
| 37 mm | 37 mm/50 model 1925 · 37 mm/50 model 1933 |
| 47 mm | 3 pdr QF Hotchkiss |
| 57 mm | 57 mm/60 ACAD Mle 1951 |
| 75 mm | 75 mm/50 Canet model 1891 · 75 mm/50 model 1922 |
| 90 mm | 90 mm/50 model 1926 |
| 130 mm | 130 mm/40 model 1919 |
| 138.6 mm | 138.6 mm/55 model 1910 · 138.6 mm/40 model 1927 · 138.6 mm/50 model 1929 · 138.6 mm/50 model 1934 R1938 |
| 152 mm | 152 mm/55 model 1930 |
| 155 mm | 155 mm/50 model 1920 |
| 203 mm | 203 mm/50 model 1924 |
| 305 mm | 305 mm/45 model 1906-10 |
| 340 mm | 340 mm/45 model 1912 |
| Foreign: | |
| 20 mm | 2 cm/65 C/38 (Germany) · 2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (Germany) · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA/Britain) |
| 40 mm | 2pdr QF Mk.IIc (Britain) · 2pdr QF Mk.VIII (Britain) · Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA) |
| 87.6 mm | Ordnance QF 25pdr (87.6 mm) (Britain) |
| 102 mm | 4 in QF Mark V (Britain) · 4 inch/45 Mark XVI (Britain) |
| 105 mm | SK C/33 AA (Germany) |
| 128 mm | 12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 (Germany) |
| 150 mm | 15 cm/48 KC/36 (Germany) |
