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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
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The Bloch M.B.162 is the best indigenously-designed bomber France has at its disposal, behaving similarly to the American [[B-17E|B-17]]. It is deceptively quick for a strategic bomber, and has an excellent climb rate that allows it to get to its safe altitude quickly. However, its excellent performance does not mean that it is lacking in bomb load or defensive armaments as one might expect. Although having a lower total capacity than the earlier [[N.C.223.3]], it has a higher bomb load than any other indigenous French bomber and a defensive armament that matches the previously mentioned 223. All-in-all, the 162 can be seen as a sort of "Best of Both Worlds" of the French bomber tree, combining the excellent speed, climb rate and maneuverability of the lighter twin engined bombers with the bomb load and defensive armament of the heavy bombers.
  
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The M.B. 162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 5-6 km in altitude, to protect yourself from German fighters that will climb to intercept you, and mark out a bomb target to your team. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base.
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The M.B.162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 5-6 km in altitude to protect yourself from German and Italian fighters that will climb to intercept you. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base. It is worthy to note that the M.B.162 can be significantly more aggressive in Arcade, where its already excellent performance is boosted to further levels.
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However, being a bomber, fighters will go out of their way to take you down (sometimes even at the expense of their own aircraft). Although the Hispanos are relatively inaccurate when fired in long bursts, they can be very devastating when fired in .5 second bursts at an aircraft's cockpit. But it is also to note that if you can hit an enemy with your turrets, they can hit you with their guns as well, which can be a large problem when fighting the multi-cannon armed Fw 190's, Bf 109's, C.202EC/C.205 and G.55 that all mount the universally feared [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151]] that has access to the dreaded minengeschoß round.
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
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* Effective bomb payload
 
* Effective bomb payload
 
* Respectable speed for a heavy bomber
 
* Respectable speed for a heavy bomber
* Good max altitude
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* Excellent climb rate
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''

Revision as of 20:58, 15 February 2020

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Description

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The M.B.162 is a rank III French frontline bombers with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB/SB) and 5.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight Performance

The Bloch M.B.162 is the best indigenously-designed bomber France has at its disposal, behaving similarly to the American B-17. It is deceptively quick for a strategic bomber, and has an excellent climb rate that allows it to get to its safe altitude quickly. However, its excellent performance does not mean that it is lacking in bomb load or defensive armaments as one might expect. Although having a lower total capacity than the earlier N.C.223.3, it has a higher bomb load than any other indigenous French bomber and a defensive armament that matches the previously mentioned 223. All-in-all, the 162 can be seen as a sort of "Best of Both Worlds" of the French bomber tree, combining the excellent speed, climb rate and maneuverability of the lighter twin engined bombers with the bomb load and defensive armament of the heavy bombers.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 3000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
508 497 10,300 27.8 28.3 8.5 8.5 650
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 3000 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
571 537 10,300 26.7 27.0 16.2 11.6 650

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
 ???  ???  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • No armour plating
  • Six total self-sealing fuel tanks located in wings

Armaments

Suspended armament

The M.B.162 can be configured with the following payloads:

  • 6 x 100 kg №.1 bombs + 6 x 200 kg №.1 bombs (1,800 kg = total)
  • 4 x 500 kg №.2 bombs (2,000 kg = total)

Defensive armament

The M.B.162 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, dorsal turret (120 RPG)
  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, ventral turret (120 RPG)
  • 1 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (500 RPG = 1,000 total)

Usage in battles

The M.B.162 is a heavy bomber, and therefore should be flown as such. When you start a match, you will want to climb to 5-6 km in altitude to protect yourself from German and Italian fighters that will climb to intercept you. With both of the payload options, all bombs are needed to destroy a bombing base. It is worthy to note that the M.B.162 can be significantly more aggressive in Arcade, where its already excellent performance is boosted to further levels.

However, being a bomber, fighters will go out of their way to take you down (sometimes even at the expense of their own aircraft). Although the Hispanos are relatively inaccurate when fired in long bursts, they can be very devastating when fired in .5 second bursts at an aircraft's cockpit. But it is also to note that if you can hit an enemy with your turrets, they can hit you with their guns as well, which can be a large problem when fighting the multi-cannon armed Fw 190's, Bf 109's, C.202EC/C.205 and G.55 that all mount the universally feared MG 151 that has access to the dreaded minengeschoß round.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Automatic pitch
Controllable Not controllable Combined Controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Turret 7 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MG's (Turret)
III Wings Repair Engine Turret 20 mm 500 GPs
IV Engine Injection Cover New 20 mm Cannons (Turret)

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful Hispano 404 cannons in dorsal and ventral turrets
  • Effective bomb payload
  • Respectable speed for a heavy bomber
  • Excellent climb rate

Cons:

  • Turrets cannot turn 360 degrees
  • HS.404 cannons have low ammunition count
  • No turrets protecting the front, perpendicular sides, or directly vertical

History

The M.B.162 was derived from the original civilian airliner Bloch M.B. 160 already in service and was built as mail plane by the Société des Avions Marcel Bloch. Société des Avions Marcel Bloch was a French aircraft manufacturer of both military and civilian aircraft which changed its name to Dassault Aviation after the end of World War II. The company was originally founded by Marcel Bloch (hence "MB" in the aircraft designations) who, after the war changed his name to Marcel Dassault, the Bloch M.B. 162 shares very few common points with his civilian counterpart, especially concerning its wings[1]

The aircraft in-game represents a heavy bomber created by Henri Déplante and Lucien Servanty in order to satisfy the A20 program concerning a category B5 bomber, which had a crew of 5 persons utilised for both day and night bombing. Three M.B.162s were ordered into production in 1937.

Unfortunately, the first flight of the M.B.162 wasn't until the 1st of June 1940 [2] and it never saw combat during the Battle of France (10 May to 25 June 1940). With the fall of France, the prototype of the M.B.162 fell into the Luftwaffe's hands and was used as transport aircraft for the rest of the ware. After the war, the aircraft was returned to the French who utilised it in the Armée de l'Air and became the origin of the SNCASE Languedoc (post-war airliner, used for hypersonic experimentations).

Two versions of this plane existed: the MB.162.01 (prototype, one built) and the MB.162 Bn.5 (Production model, never produced).

Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

References

  1. https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/# L’avion [MB 161], de taille légèrement inférieure et de performances comparable au B-17, ne possède que très peu d’éléments en commun avec les MB 160 et MB 161, son aile, notamment, est très différente.
  2. https://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/passion/avions/bloch-militaires/mb-162/# La construction du prototype à Courbevoie est retardée jusqu’à la fin de 1939. Assemblé à Villacoublay après son transfert par route au printemps 1940, il effectue son premier vol le 1er juin 1940 équipé de quatre Gnôme et Rhône14 N 48/49de 1100 ch.

Template:AirManufacturer Bloch

France bombers
Farman  F.222.2 · N.C.223.3
Latécoère  Late 298D
Potez  Potez 633
Liore et Olivier  LeO 451 early · LeO 451 late
Bloch  M.B.174A-3 · M.B.162 · M.B.175T
American  V-156-F · Martin 167-A3 · ▄A-35B · ▄SB2C-5 · B-26C · ▄PBY-5A Late · ▄PB4Y-2
British  Lancaster MR.7