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Myself

A Chinese-Macau citizen who is now studying in a certain city somewhere on the shore of Taiwan Strait, speaking both Cantonese and Mandarin, as well as fluent English and some Japanese and German; mains on US,DE,RU,UK,JP,CN tech trees; a 8 year player of this game. Enthusiastic on IKEA's Blahaj the shark doll.

PLA Naming System

As we might know, PLAGF- People's Liberation Army Ground Forces has a "fax-machine like" naming system, according to PhlyDaily's title of his ZTZ96 video, but there is actually a pattern and standards. Known as the 《全军武器装备命名规则》(Standard Nomenclature Details of Armored Vehicles) since 1987 and the later 《中国人民解放军装备命名规定》(lit. PLA's Regulations on Equipment Naming) from 2012 (classified for now), instead of the very political naming in the early 1960s and the well-known Type XX of certain vehicle (as far as I can dig up from known documentations).

WZ-numbers means Wujibu-Zhuangjia 五机部-装甲 (5th Ministry of Machine Building-Armored Vehicle) code from factory issued by 5th Ministry of Machine Building (第五机械工业部，currently NORINCO and CSGC) such as WZ123 in ZTZ99 case.

The following table will give you a speculation of (usual) vehicles naming and how it works, capitalized character is the first letter of its pinyin.

(Note: Strikethroughs need further clarification from Chinese documents under current naming standards)

1st Letter	2nd Letter	3rd Letter	Number	Example
Z-Zhuangjia cheliang装甲车辆 AFV	B-Bubing zhanche 步兵战车 IFV	D-lüDai 履带 Tracked L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled	1900-2099 (The first 2 digits can be ignored in normal use)	ZBD86
	G-Gongcheng baozhang cheliang工程保障车辆 Engineering vehicle	Q-jiaQiao 架桥 Bridge layer L-sao(bu)Lei 扫（布）雷 Mine sweeping/laying G-Gongcheng 工程（作业车）Engineering operation		ZGG84 ZGQ84 (based on ZTZ79)
	S-zhuangjia Shusongche 装甲输送车 APC	D-lüDai 履带 Tracked L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled		ZSL92 (WZ551)
	T-Tanke 坦克 Tank	D-lüDai 履带 Tracked L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled Q-Qingxing 轻型 Light Z-Zhuzhan/Zhongxing 主战/中型坦克 MBT S-Shuilu 水陆 lit.water and land Amphibious		ZTQ62 **ZTS63 ZTZ99 ZTD05 ZTL11
	Z-Zhandou qinwu cheliang 战斗勤务车辆 Combat service vehicles	Z-Zhihui 指挥 Commanding C-zhenCha 侦察 Scoution T-Tongxin 通信 Communication D-Dianziduikang 电子对抗 ECM M-Miyaojiazhu 密匙加注 Battlefield code encryption F-Fangbao 防爆车- Anti-explosives X-zongheXinxi 综合信息 Intergraded information (of battlefield)		N/A
P-Pao 炮 Artillery	G-Gaoshe 高射炮 AA gun	L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled Z-Zizou 自走 Self-Propelled		PGZ04A PGZ09
	H-Huojiandan 火箭弹 Rocket			PHZ89 PHL03
	***L-Liudan 榴弹炮 Howitzer			PLL05 PLZ05
	T-Tuji 突击炮 Assault gun			PTL97 *PTL02

*Note: In early 2000s wheeled assault guns were counted as artillery, while after 2016 they were for heavy composite armored brigades. 

** The only ZTS among all PLA equipment

***Gun-mortars (迫榴炮) and howitzers are both counted as 榴彈砲 in this case.

Misconceptions on ZTZ99 Series

ZTZ99, being one of the most iconic PLAGF equipment to western players and the fist of elite armored brigades, has been in deep mystery in terms of its naming due to the relatively lack of information from PLAGF. From this video by Bilibili content creator 院长今天又划水 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1SM4y1g7mC, the naming for ZTZ99 series become more clear as follows:

Italic- Not introduced in game

Bold- Introduced in game

*The naming in Chinese and in-wiki English is different, where the second one should be instead called- Stage I Modified.

** Was ZTZ10 but rumor suggested to avoid duplicated name to JGSDF's Hitomaru (Type 10), it was renamed to ZTZ99A.

In-game name	Unified name	WZ Number	PLAGF naming	*Commonly know as	Major appearance differences	Certificated date	First publicly shown	Chief designer	Note
ZTZ99-I ZTZ99（一类）	ZTZ(19)99 Main Battle Tank	WZ123	ZTZ99式 一类定型状态	99一期 99 Stage I	No ERA blocks and applique armor; V-shaped breakwater; bulged at the middle of the turret.	1999	1999/10/1	Zhu Yusheng 祝榆生 (1918-2014)	Erroneously known as Type 98 or by its project number "9910"; the model used in Battlefield™ 2
ZTZ99-II ZTZ99（二类）			ZTZ99式 二类定型状态	99一期改 99 Stage II	ERA blocks on UFP and applique armor on the front and sides of turret based on former.	c. 2003	N/A		Erroneously known as Type 99G; the model used in Battlefield™ 4.
ZTZ99-III ZTZ99（三类）		WZ123B	ZTZ99式 三类定型状态	99二期 99 Stage III	New welded turret with extended side applique armor and revise of turret front applique blocks; repositioned ERA blocks on UFP with a horizontal breakwater.	2004	2009/10/1		Erroneously known as Type 99A1; basis of NORINCO VT-3 export MBT.
ZTZ99A	**ZTZ(20)10 Main Battle Tank	WZ1001	ZTZ99A式	99A	Completely redesigned tank with a shorter chassis, increased UFP area and new turret; bulged rear chassis for new engine pack.	2010	2015/9/3	Mao Ming 毛明 (1962-)	Erroneously known as Type 99A2; has NO RELATIONSHIP with previous ZTZ99s other than the name.

J-8- The People's Republic Decade Old Legend

(Based on CCTV-7's 4-part “Chinese Fighters- The Soaring J-8 中国战机·歼八奋飞" and two-part "Gu Songfen 顾诵芬" documentary with comprised information from Wikipedia and Baidu Baike)

(My all time favorite and the most deserved jet for CN air TT)

Prologue

Across the Chinese skies, before the 1960s, it was still ruled by imported Soviet jets and its domestic (un)licensed builds, J-4/5/6/7; although it was fairly an achievement that an agriculture country for centuries could built some of the latest jets of the era, but those were still non-indigenous design. The dream of all Mainland Chinese aircraft designers were building a totally indigenous Chinese jet (in terms of overall design), which was still rather difficult due to lack of experience; the dawn of this idea was from a obsolete yet sufficient design of JJ-1 歼教-1, designed and built by Factory 112 (today's AVIC Shenyang). The now -inspired team of designers included a legendary designer in China, Mr. Gu Songfen 顾诵芬 （1932/2/4-）, CAS and CAE member, recipient of 2021 Highest Science and Technology Award 最高科学技术奖. The design that was led by him was the legendary (for the Chinese) J-8 歼-8 (NATO: Finback 长须鲸).

The Inspiration

In 1962, the ROCAF ganged up with CIA for high-altitude recon mission over Mainland China for its defense facilities and most of all, the nuclear weapon program, the infamous 34th "Black Cat" Squadron; although PLAAF scored 5 kills over their state-of-the-art U-2 with SAMs, most of the time PLAAF would need to send J-6 and the new comer J-7 for fruitless interception of those 20km-high recon planes. A quote from Gu Songfen, "The biggest flaw of J-7 was its short flight time; it could only stay at high-altitude for around 2-3 minutes and it climbs slowly." Aircraft designers in Mainland were furious yet they could do nothing to those U-2s. With the test flights of XB-70 that was aimed to launch sudden strikes on Mainland's nuclear facilities (also Soviet ones as well), PLAAF was in dire for a new high-altitude interceptor. Two of the chief designers of JJ-1, Xu Shunshou 徐舜寿 （1917/8/21-1968/1/6, died during the 10-year havoc of Cultural Revolution) and Huang Zhiqian 黄志千 (1914/1/24-1965/5/20, died with all 121 passenger and crew of PIA 705 AP-AMH at Cairo) went for the design of a new interceptor, 22 schemes single or twin engine designs. For the Chinese at that time, "If we can build an atomic bomb, how hard could it be making a jet engine?" So the early design of new interceptor was a single-engine design while Huang Zhiqian kept on the alternative twin-engine design in view of a new jet engine could stall the development for decades. On the theorize meeting of the new interceptor, the pro-single engine designers couldn't ensure how long it takes to develop a new engine; so the model brought by Huang Zhiqian, aka "Roast Duck 烤鸭" with twin WP-7 engine became the go-to design for the interceptor before the single engine version could ever be build.

On 1965/5/17, the Central Military Commission has given the green light to the twin engine version of the interceptor; the J-8.

Development

(TBC)