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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Sons of Attila"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/8494-event-tokushu-heiki-assemble-and-test-an-honorable-missile-to-obtain-prizes-en|2023 Tokushu Heiki event]]. | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Sons of Attila"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/8494-event-tokushu-heiki-assemble-and-test-an-honorable-missile-to-obtain-prizes-en|2023 Tokushu Heiki event]]. Built on the already familiar XM8 / CCVL chassis, this peculiar ATGM tank destroyer requires a unique playstyle to fulfill it's niche role. This is also the only ATGM carrier to feature a solid rod penetrator with NO explosive mass whatsoever, giving you free range to shoot through obstacles whenever. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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{{Specs-Tank-Armour}} | {{Specs-Tank-Armour}} | ||
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− | The most well protected side of the tank is the front, even though it has not much armour since it is based on the CCVL chassis. The biggest weak spot on the tank is the huge turret on top of the chassis holding all the ammunition for the vehicle. Any tank that fires at the turret with its main armament will most certainly completely destroy the LOSAT. | + | The most well protected side of the tank is the front, even though it has not much armour since it is based on the CCVL chassis. The biggest weak spot on the tank is the huge turret on top of the chassis holding all the ammunition for the vehicle. Any tank that fires at the turret with its main armament will most certainly completely destroy the LOSAT. From the front, it can shrug off most autocannon fire from 25mm and lower calibers. 30mm and up are a death sentence. |
'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations --> | '''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations --> | ||
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | Hull || | + | | Hull || 38.1 mm (76°) ''Front Glacis'' |
+ | 6.35 mm (31°) ''Lower Glacis'' | ||
+ | | 25.4 mm ''Top'' <br>44 mm ''Bottom'' || 12.7 - 25.4 mm || 10 - 25.4 mm | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | Turret || | + | | Turret || 12.7 - 25.4 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 12 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm |
|- | |- | ||
− | | Cupola || | + | | Cupola || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm |
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
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'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of --> | '''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of --> | ||
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+ | * Roadwheels and suspension bogies are 20mm thick | ||
+ | * Tracks are 15mm thick | ||
+ | * High Hardness side skirts are 6.25mm thick | ||
+ | * ATGM gun steel housing is 5mm thick | ||
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}} | {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}} | ||
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− | { | + | {| class="wikitable" |
+ | ! rowspan="2" |'''Game Mode''' | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" |'''Max Speed (km/h)''' | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" |'''Weight (tons)''' | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" |'''Engine power (horsepower)''' | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" |'''Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)''' | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !'''Forward''' | ||
+ | !'''Reverse''' | ||
+ | !'''Stock''' | ||
+ | !'''Upgraded''' | ||
+ | !'''Stock''' | ||
+ | !'''Upgraded''' | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !'''Arcade''' | ||
+ | |75 | ||
+ | |15.6 | ||
+ | | rowspan="2" |19.5 | ||
+ | |817 | ||
+ | |993.7 | ||
+ | |41.89 | ||
+ | |50.95 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !'''Realistic''' | ||
+ | |69 | ||
+ | |14.3 | ||
+ | |509 | ||
+ | |572.9 | ||
+ | |26.10 | ||
+ | |29.38 | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | The LOSAT has pretty good mobility. Based on the venerable XM8 / CCVL chassis, it's capable of reaching it's top speed fairly quickly on flat terrain and only struggles on hilly type terrain. The transmission and brakes are very responsive which is useful for getting the first shot off. The suspension is very stable and has minimal bouncing. The reverse gear isn't the fastest, but at a modest 14.3 km/h (Realistic; 15.6 km/h Arcade), it can safely scoot away from any retaliation. The cruise control function also carries a special battle mode setting for firing on the move without having to stop completely. | ||
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}} | {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}} | ||
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− | {{main|LOSAT/MGM- | + | {{main|LOSAT/MGM-166}}The 163mm MGM-166 LOSAT (Line of Sight Anti Tank) missile launcher is a unique weapon. It does not store any ammunition in the hull and has all of it's 12 MGM-166's in clear view. It does not feature a stabilizer nor can it elevate or depress itself, making it very difficult to use on hilly terrain. It can move it's turret horizontally in a wide arc in front of the vehicle however making it easy to take shots from around corners and retreat thanks to it's modest reverse. Finally, the MGM-166 is the only kinetic penetrator ATGM in game as well as the only projectile in game that gains penetration the farther away the target is due to it's massive accelerating missile. The downside is you cannot fire the weapon while at speeds greater than 4 km/h, to mitigate this, you can utilize the cruise control's battle mode to continue "moving" (limited to 3 km/h). |
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! colspan="5" | [[LOSAT/MGM- | + | ! colspan="5" | [[LOSAT/MGM-166]] missile || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds) |
|- | |- | ||
! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer | ! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer | ||
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! ''Arcade'' | ! ''Arcade'' | ||
− | | rowspan="2" | 12 (12) || rowspan="2" | - || rowspan="2" | ±110° || rowspan="2" | - || | + | | rowspan="2" | 12 (12) || rowspan="2" | - || rowspan="2" | ±110° || rowspan="2" | - || 26.4 || 36.5 || 44.4 || 49.1 || 52.2 || rowspan="2" | 19.50 || rowspan="2" | 17.25 || rowspan="2" | 15.90 || rowspan="2" | 15.00 |
|- | |- | ||
! ''Realistic'' | ! ''Realistic'' | ||
− | | | + | | 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0 |
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
==== Ammunition ==== | ==== Ammunition ==== | ||
− | {{:LOSAT/MGM- | + | {{:LOSAT/MGM-166/Ammunition|MGM-166}} |
==== [[Ammo racks]] ==== | ==== [[Ammo racks]] ==== | ||
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! Visual<br>discrepancy | ! Visual<br>discrepancy | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | '''1''' || | + | | '''1''' || 6 ''(+0)'' || ''6 (+0)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || n/a |
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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− | The LOSAT is a very quick and agile vehicle. Although it boasts very little armour, its armament is exceptional. The MGM-166 is small propelled dart which does more damage the further it travels. The LOSAT has a very simple playstyle: use it in long range engagements, roughly at 1,500 or more metres. This will allow the ammunition to speed up to its full potential dealing extreme amounts of penetration as much as 729 mm on a standard vehicle regardless of the angle and direction. It is recommended to snipe with the vehicle across maps. Simply position somewhere and let loose with your supersonic weapons. | + | The LOSAT is a very quick and agile vehicle. Although it boasts very little armour, its armament is exceptional. The MGM-166 is small propelled dart which does more damage the further it travels. The LOSAT has a very simple playstyle: use it in long range engagements, roughly at 1,500 or more metres. This will allow the ammunition to speed up to its full potential dealing extreme amounts of penetration as much as 729 mm on a standard vehicle regardless of the angle and direction. It is recommended to snipe with the vehicle across maps. Simply position somewhere and let loose with your supersonic weapons. Avoid hilly terrain as it will offset your missile trajectory. The missiles are highly responsive as previously stated, therefore you can even attack enemies behind cover in a sort of orbital strike on some maps by simply pointing the missiles up slightly and letting loose by dragging your aiming reticle back to the ground, it's not a very reliable tactic, unfortunately. Lastly, avoid areas where light tanks or IFVs with autocannons may be as your thin armor will not stand up to them at closer ranges. Use your .50cal to ward off any potential light tanks or uppity SPAAs (such as breaking tracks) while you reposition or get closer to your allies. |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_losat_ccv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_losat_ccv Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
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+ | ;Videos | ||
+ | {{Youtube-gallery|NUuKlydTMUc|'''The Shooting Range #392''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 03:31 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}} | ||
== See also == | == See also == |
Latest revision as of 08:09, 14 August 2024
Contents
Description
The LOSAT-CCVL is a gift rank VII American tank destroyer with a battle rating of 10.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced during Update "Sons of Attila" as a reward for the 2023 Tokushu Heiki event. Built on the already familiar XM8 / CCVL chassis, this peculiar ATGM tank destroyer requires a unique playstyle to fulfill it's niche role. This is also the only ATGM carrier to feature a solid rod penetrator with NO explosive mass whatsoever, giving you free range to shoot through obstacles whenever.
General info
Survivability and armour
The most well protected side of the tank is the front, even though it has not much armour since it is based on the CCVL chassis. The biggest weak spot on the tank is the huge turret on top of the chassis holding all the ammunition for the vehicle. Any tank that fires at the turret with its main armament will most certainly completely destroy the LOSAT. From the front, it can shrug off most autocannon fire from 25mm and lower calibers. 30mm and up are a death sentence.
Armour type:
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
---|---|---|---|---|
Hull | 38.1 mm (76°) Front Glacis
6.35 mm (31°) Lower Glacis |
25.4 mm Top 44 mm Bottom |
12.7 - 25.4 mm | 10 - 25.4 mm |
Turret | 12.7 - 25.4 mm Turret front 12 mm Gun mantlet |
25.4 mm | 25.4 mm | 25.4 mm |
Cupola | 25.4 mm | 25.4 mm | 25.4 mm | 25.4 mm |
Notes:
- Roadwheels and suspension bogies are 20mm thick
- Tracks are 15mm thick
- High Hardness side skirts are 6.25mm thick
- ATGM gun steel housing is 5mm thick
Mobility
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 75 | 16 | 19.5 | 817 | 1,097 | 41.9 | 56.26 |
Realistic | 69 | 15 | 509 | 575 | 26.1 | 29.49 |
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 75 | 15.6 | 19.5 | 817 | 993.7 | 41.89 | 50.95 |
Realistic | 69 | 14.3 | 509 | 572.9 | 26.10 | 29.38 |
The LOSAT has pretty good mobility. Based on the venerable XM8 / CCVL chassis, it's capable of reaching it's top speed fairly quickly on flat terrain and only struggles on hilly type terrain. The transmission and brakes are very responsive which is useful for getting the first shot off. The suspension is very stable and has minimal bouncing. The reverse gear isn't the fastest, but at a modest 14.3 km/h (Realistic; 15.6 km/h Arcade), it can safely scoot away from any retaliation. The cruise control function also carries a special battle mode setting for firing on the move without having to stop completely.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Main armament
LOSAT/MGM-166 missile | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
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Mode | Capacity (Belt) | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
Arcade | 12 (12) | - | ±110° | - | 26.4 | 36.5 | 44.4 | 49.1 | 52.2 | 19.50 | 17.25 | 15.90 | 15.00 |
Realistic | 17.9 | 21.0 | 25.5 | 28.2 | 30.0 |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
MGM-166 | ATGM | 70 | 150 | 443 | 775 | 729 | - |
Missile details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Range (m) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay | Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
MGM-166 | ATGM | 1,520 | 5,000 | 78.92 | - | - | - | 78° | 80° | 81° |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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1 | 6 (+0) | 6 (+0) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | n/a |
Machine guns
12.7 mm M2HB | ||||
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Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
Pintle | 1,000 (200) | 575 | -5°/+10° | ±70° |
Usage in battles
The LOSAT is a very quick and agile vehicle. Although it boasts very little armour, its armament is exceptional. The MGM-166 is small propelled dart which does more damage the further it travels. The LOSAT has a very simple playstyle: use it in long range engagements, roughly at 1,500 or more metres. This will allow the ammunition to speed up to its full potential dealing extreme amounts of penetration as much as 729 mm on a standard vehicle regardless of the angle and direction. It is recommended to snipe with the vehicle across maps. Simply position somewhere and let loose with your supersonic weapons. Avoid hilly terrain as it will offset your missile trajectory. The missiles are highly responsive as previously stated, therefore you can even attack enemies behind cover in a sort of orbital strike on some maps by simply pointing the missiles up slightly and letting loose by dragging your aiming reticle back to the ground, it's not a very reliable tactic, unfortunately. Lastly, avoid areas where light tanks or IFVs with autocannons may be as your thin armor will not stand up to them at closer ranges. Use your .50cal to ward off any potential light tanks or uppity SPAAs (such as breaking tracks) while you reposition or get closer to your allies.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- MGM-166s are kinetic penetrators and not reliant on HEAT charges, which can make it avoid most ATGM ERAs
- Extremely high penetration values at farther ranges
- 12 missiles are highly effective and enough to deal with targets
- Missiles can be too fast for IRCM systems to react
Cons:
- No vertical guidance at all
- The MGM-166s instability can cause inaccuracy when hitting targets, especially when firing from angled surfaces
- Being in close-medium combat can be too short to effectively generate enough velocity to penetrate armour
- Missile drop when firing can cause impact into terrain/objects
- Extremely long ammo replenish length (over a minute in Realistic battles, around 30 seconds in Arcade battles)
History
The LOSAT (Line-of-Sight Anti-Tank) system was an evolution of a prior multi-platformed guided missile system design. The concept was initially born out of a US Army requirement for a missile with the capabilities to destroy all types of tanks and armoured vehicles found to be outside of conventional gun range. While other missiles currently in service such as the Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided (TOW) system were capable of meeting the range requirements, the Army was concerned that these missiles were ineffective due to slow speeds and long flight times to their target at long range. The missile itself was designed by the "Vought" Aerospace company, while Texas Instruments partnered with the firm by providing their upgraded FLIR system. The initial plan for the system was to mount it to the M2 Bradley, and later the M8 Armored Gun chassis. However, due to cost concerns, it would eventually be mounted onto HUMVEEs with additional missiles carried by trailer.
The missile's specifications and design made it very different to most ATGM systems of its time. Rather than a dual-warhead, shaped-charge, or HEAT design, it relied on kinetic energy at very high speeds to penetrate the armour of any target it encountered. The design was first test-fired at the White Sands Missile Range in 1990, and orders for the missiles in small numbers were placed after the Army renewed the production contract. Despite this, production did not really begin in any notable numbers until the late 1990s, and only a dozen vehicles paired with 150 missiles were ordered. However, the DOD reduced the program to "Demonstration" status in 1996 and recommended that the program be killed entirely. It was instead re-instated under Lockheed Martin, and the order of missiles and vehicles began to slowly be delivered in 2002, shortly after a second order for 100 more missiles was placed. By this time, it had been nearly 15 years after the initial proposal by Vought. The missiles continued to be test-fired (this time at Fort Bliss) in 2004 before it became obvious to all involved that the project was simply going to be terminated for good. As time had gone on, the Army changed its requirements for the same type of system, preferring to employ a more compact, and lighter missile known as the Compact Kinetic Missile System that had already entered development and could achieve the same results.
Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
- Lockheed Martin MGM-166 LOSAT/KEM. (n.d.). http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-166.html
- Wikipedia contributors. (2022, November 5). MGM-166 LOSAT. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-166_LOSAT
USA tank destroyers | |
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M10 | M10 GMC |
M36 | M36 GMC · M36B2 |
T95 | T28 · T95 |
M109 | M109A1 |
ATGM | LOSAT · M901 |
Wheeled | M3 GMC · T55E1 |
Other | M8 HMC · M50 · M56 |
China | ▃LVT(A)(4) (ZIS-2) |