Z12 Erich Giese

Z12 Erich Giese

Z15 Erich Steinbrinck

Z32

Z12 Erich Giese

Z15 Erich Steinbrinck

Z32

Germany

II Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
4.3	4.3	4.3

Class:

Destroyer

Research:7 900

Purchase:10 000

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Description

The Type 1934A-class, Z12 Erich Giese, 1940 is a rank II German destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea" as part of the release of the fleet open beta test.

The Z12 Erich Giese was a German Type 1934A destroyer, built as the eighth of twelve ships of this type for the German Navy in the 1930s. The ship was laid down on 3 May 1935 and she was launched on 12 March 1937.

The ship is extremely agile for a ship of this size. Her main armament consists of five 12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 cannons, while the secondary armament consists of two 3.7 cm SK C/30 cannons. For air defence, the Z12 Erich Giese has six 2 cm/65 C/38 machine guns. For heavier targets, the Z12 Erich Giese also has two torpedo launchers, each equipped with 4 x 53.3 cm G7a torpedoes.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back

Main fire tower8 / 8 / 0 mm

Hull16 mm (steel)

Superstructure8 mm (steel)

Number of section8

Displacement3 190 t

Crew325 people

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Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB86 / 31 km/h

RB70 / 25 km/h

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Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode	Upgrade Status	Maximum Speed (km/h)		Turn Time (s)	Turn Radius (m)
		Forward	Reverse
AB	Stock	63	23	~152.22	~296.09
	Upgraded	86	31	___	___
RB/SB	Stock	___	___	___	___
	Upgraded	70	25	___	___

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB871 → 1 132

RB1 355 → 1 761

Total cost of modifications6 950

6 750

Talisman cost530

Crew training3 000

Experts10 000

Aces125

Research Aces160 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

80 / 190 / 100 %

112 / 112 / 112 %

Modifications

Seakeeping	Unsinkability	Firepower
Dry-Docking Research: 280 Cost: 270 75 Rudder Replacement Research: 310 Cost: 300 85 Propeller Replacement Research: 350 Cost: 340 95 Engine Maintenance Research: 450 Cost: 440 120	Damage Control Division Research: 280 Cost: 270 75 Fire Division Research: 310 Cost: 300 85 Smokescreen Research: 310 Cost: 300 85 Shrapnel Protection Research: 350 Cost: 340 95 Ventilation Research: 350 Cost: 340 95 New Pumps Research: 450 Cost: 440 120 Ammo Wetting Research: 450 Cost: 440 120	128mm_ger_HE_naval_base_fuze_ammo_pack Research: 280 Cost: 270 75 Anti-Air Armament Targeting Research: 280 Cost: 270 75 37 mm Spgr Lh 37 Research: 280 Cost: 270 75 128mm_ger_he_naval_dist_fuze_ammo_pack Research: 310 Cost: 300 85 Auxiliary Armament Targeting Research: 310 Cost: 300 85 Primary Armament Targeting Research: 350 Cost: 340 95 Improved Rangefinder Research: 350 Cost: 340 95 Torpedo Mode Research: 450 Cost: 440 120 Bomb mortar Research: 450 Cost: 440 120

Armament

Primary armament

5 х Turret12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 naval gun

Ammunition120 rounds

Vertical guidance-10° / 30°

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		1,000 m	2,500 m	5,000 m	7,500 m	10,000 m	15,000 m
Sprgr. L/4.4 Kpf.Z	HE	24	24	24	24	24	24
Sprgr. L/4.4 Bd.Z	HE	59	50	38	30	24	18
Sprgr. L/4.4 Zt.Z	HE-TF	24	24	24	24	24	24

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (s)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg)	Ricochet
							0%	50%	100%
Sprgr. L/4.4 Kpf.Z	HE	830	28	0	0.1	1.91	79°	80°	81°
Sprgr. L/4.4 Bd.Z	HE	830	28	0.015	5	1.4	79°	80°	81°
Sprgr. L/4.4 Zt.Z	HE-TF	830	28	0	0.1	1.91	79°	80°	81°

The main armament of the Z 12 Erich Giese consists in five 128 mm naval cannons, two of them are located at the front of the ship, one is located in the middle of the ship and the remaining two are located at the back.

These cannons are able to shoot three types of ammunition. First, the Sprgr. Kpf.Z HE shell with 2 kg of TNT equivalent and a muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. This is the standard ammunition for the Z12 Erich Giese. The next one is the Sprgr. Bd.z, a base-fused HE shell with more penetration in but with less explosive mass, only 1.4 kg of TNT equivalent and the same muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. The last shell is the Sprgr. Zt.Z and it comes with the same amount of TNT and muzzle velocity as the Sprgr. Bd.Z but it is equiped with a time fuze, which can be useful when engaging enemy aircraft, and can compensate the lack of air defense of the Z12 Erich Giese

Secondary armament

2 х Turret2 x 3.7 cm SK C/30 mounting

Ammunition4000 rounds

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Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
Spgr L/4.1 Lh 37	HE	2	2	2	2	2	2
Psgr L'spur Zerl	APCBC	87	84	71	58	48	39

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
							0%	50%	100%
Spgr L/4.1 Lh 37	HE	1,000	0.75	0	0.1	27.4	79°	80°	81°
Psgr L'spur Zerl	APCBC	1,000	0.82	1.3	15	37.4	48°	63°	71°

Anti-aircraft armament

6 х Turret2 cm/65 C/38 automatic cannon

Ammunition2000 rounds

Belt capacity40 rounds

Fire rate480 shots/min

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Additional armament

Setup 18 x 533 mm G7a torpedo

Setup 24 x WBG depth charge

Setup 38 x 533 mm G7a torpedo

4 x WBG depth charge

The Z12 Erich Giese is equipped with two quadruple torped launchers, which are located in the middle of the ship. The G7a is a deadly torpedo and can hullbreak any destroyer and can severly damage cruisers and battleships. The Z12 Erich Giese has also the option to use 4 WBG Depth Charges.

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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Pros:

- High Mobility and agility

- Powerfull Torpedos

Cons:

- Lack of Air Defense

- Lack of Armor

History

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Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the Z12 Erich Giese from live.warthunder.com.

See also

Related development

• Type 1934A (Family)

External links

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