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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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In the 1970s, after encountering the Soviet Border Troops at Zenbao/Damansky Island and [[T-62 545 (China)|capturing a T-62]] from them, PLAGF was in dire need of new cannons to handle the possible masses of Soviet armoured brigades assaulting Mainland China. From that T-62 they developed their own version of T-12 anti-tank gun - the PTP73 100 mm smoothbore AT gun. While the HEATFS was universal between all the 100 mm guns found in Mainland China and came available at that time, this gun came with an underwhelming APFSDS with subpar penetration to many AT guns of the same era.
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In the 1970s, after encountering the Soviet Border Troops at Zenbao/Damansky Island and [[T-62 545 (China)|capturing a T-62]] from them, PLAGF was in dire need of new cannons to handle the possible masses of Soviet armoured brigades assaulting Mainland China. From that T-62 they developed their own version of T-12 anti-tank gun - the PTP73 100 mm smoothbore AT gun. While the HEATFS was universal between all the 100 mm guns found in Mainland China and came available at that time, this gun came with an underwhelming APFSDS with subpar penetration to many AT guns of the same era.
  
 
After the introduction of [[L7A3 (105 mm)|L7A3]] from Austria under license, PLAGF also earned the technologies and alloys needed to forge a domestic L7 105 mm rifled cannon, therefore they put that technology into good use and upgraded PTP73 with these innovations, thus having the PTP86 as a field towed gun to take down possible Soviet armoured brigades assaults.
 
After the introduction of [[L7A3 (105 mm)|L7A3]] from Austria under license, PLAGF also earned the technologies and alloys needed to forge a domestic L7 105 mm rifled cannon, therefore they put that technology into good use and upgraded PTP73 with these innovations, thus having the PTP86 as a field towed gun to take down possible Soviet armoured brigades assaults.

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Description

The PTP86 (86式100毫米滑膛反坦克炮) is a smoothbore anti-tank gun made by NORINCO based on the 115 mm U-5TS found on T-62 and the later reverse-engineered PTP73 based on Soviet T-12.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

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Available ammunition

PTP86 has quite some options for its ammunition: two types of APFSDS - the infamous 1-73-85 and the later DYW-PT-86, Type 83 HEATFS, and an HE round.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
1-72-85 APDS-FS APFSDS 219 213 194 170 147 126
1-71-74 HE HE 17 17 17 17 17 17
Type 1973 HEAT-FS HEATFS 390 390 390 390 390 390
DYW PT86-100 APFSDS 381 378 372 364 356 347
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
1-72-85 APDS-FS APFSDS 1,505 3.05 N/A N/A N/A 72° 76° 78°
1-71-74 HE HE 900 15 0 0.1 1,300 79° 80° 81°
Type 1973 HEAT-FS HEATFS 1,000 10.05 0.05 0.1 1,180 65° 72° 77°
DYW PT86-100 APFSDS 1,610 3.3 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°

Comparison with analogues

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Usage in battles

Since the gun used newer technologies, although PTP86 and Type 69 shared the same calibre and ammunition (notably, the 1-72-85 APFSDS), at stock they might seem quite the same, but the higher chamber pressure of the gun shines in its velocity, with the introduction of DYW-PT-86, it turns the gun into a nice sniper from range. But try to keep the gun away from hilly terrain, it doesn't have the required depression to go hull-down.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Stock access to APFSDS
  • Powerful HEATFS
  • DYW-PT-86 makes short work of enemies with its higher penetration.

Cons:

  • Subpar reload time
  • Horrible depression angle

History

In the 1970s, after encountering the Soviet Border Troops at Zenbao/Damansky Island and capturing a T-62 from them, PLAGF was in dire need of new cannons to handle the possible masses of Soviet armoured brigades assaulting Mainland China. From that T-62 they developed their own version of T-12 anti-tank gun - the PTP73 100 mm smoothbore AT gun. While the HEATFS was universal between all the 100 mm guns found in Mainland China and came available at that time, this gun came with an underwhelming APFSDS with subpar penetration to many AT guns of the same era.

After the introduction of L7A3 from Austria under license, PLAGF also earned the technologies and alloys needed to forge a domestic L7 105 mm rifled cannon, therefore they put that technology into good use and upgraded PTP73 with these innovations, thus having the PTP86 as a field towed gun to take down possible Soviet armoured brigades assaults.

Later when Factory 256 in Chongqing developed the WZ551 wheeled APC for export in 1987 and seeing the performance of NATO forces' wheeled assault gun in the Gulf War, PLAGF attempted to mount this very gun onto WZ551, turning it into PTL87 and PTL97 and eventually, the fruit of these two vehicles was the mass-produced PTL02, serving as a quick response vehicle for possible assaults on battlefield with extensive road network; with the introduction of tube-launched ATGMs and newer APFSDS in the late 2000s, this old gun can still serve its purpose on handling tanks while having the mobility to change position.

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See also

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China tank cannons
30 mm  ZPL02 · ZPZ02
73 mm  Type 86
76 mm  M32K1
85 mm  Type 56 · Type 63
100 mm  PTP86 · Type 59 · Type 69 · Type 69-II · ZPL04
105 mm  88B-105T · Type 83 · WMA301 · ZPL94 · ZPL98A
120 mm  122TM · PTZ89
125 mm  Type 88C · Type 99A · ZPT98
130 mm  PL59A Gai
152 mm  PL66 Gai
  Foreign:
20 mm  KwK30 (Germany)
37 mm  M6 (USA)
45 mm  20-K (USSR)
47 mm  Type 1 (Japan)
57 mm  Type 97 (Japan) · ZIS-2 (USSR)
75 mm  M2 Howitzer (USA) · M3 (USA) · M6 (USA)
76 mm  D-56T (USSR) · F-34 (USSR) · M1 (USA) · M7 (USA) · ZIS-3 (USSR)
85 mm  ZIS-S-53 (USSR)
90 mm  M3 (USA) · M41 (USA)
100 mm  D-10S (USSR)
105 mm  M68 (USA) · M68A1 (USA)
115 mm  U-5TS (USSR)
122 mm  A-19 (USSR) · D-25T (USSR)
152 mm  ML-20S (USSR)

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