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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=994|rbMinHp=619}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|HSS 831A (30 mm)}}
  
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The armament consists of 2x30mm HSS 831A cannons with 300 RPG with a quick, fixed fire rate and can make use of 3 types of munitions :  
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The armament consists of 2x30mm HSS 831A cannons with 300 RPG with a quick, fixed fire rate and can make use of 3 types of munitions :
  
 
* High-explosive incendiary (self-destroying, note that the self-destruction range coincides with the radar's lead indicator maximum distance, making the shell inadequate at longer ranges)
 
* High-explosive incendiary (self-destroying, note that the self-destruction range coincides with the radar's lead indicator maximum distance, making the shell inadequate at longer ranges)
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! colspan="6" | [[HSS 831A (30 mm)|30 mm HSS 831A]] (x2) || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 
! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! ''Arcade''
 
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| rowspan="2" | 1200 (300) || rowspan="2" | 600 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+85° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 70.4 || 97.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || rowspan="2" | 65.0 || rowspan="2" | __.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | 50.0
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| rowspan="2" | 1,200 (300) || rowspan="2" | 600 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+85° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 70.4 || 97.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || rowspan="2" | 65.0 || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | 50.0
 
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! ''Realistic''
 
! ''Realistic''
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|}
  
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=== Ammunition ===
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==== Ammunition ====
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* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T|High-explosive incendiary tracer}}
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* '''30x170 HE-I-T:''' {{Annotation|HEI-T|High-explosive incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI|High-explosive incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI|High-explosive incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
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* '''30x170 APHE-I:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T|High-explosive incendiary tracer}}
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* '''30x170 APDS-T:''' {{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T|High-explosive incendiary tracer}}
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| Default || 53 || 50 || 39 || 29 || 21 || 16
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
 
 
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| 30x170 HE-I-T || 53 || 50 || 39 || 29 || 21 || 16
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! style="width:4em" |100m
 
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! style="width:4em" |500m
 
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| Default || AP-I, HEI-T* || 53 || 50 || 39 || 29 || 21 || 16
 
 
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| 30x170 HE-I-T || HEI-T*, HEI*, HEI*, AP-I || 53 || 50 || 39 || 29 || 21 || 16
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| 30x170 APHE-I || 53 || 50 || 39 || 29 || 21 || 16
 
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| 30x170 APHE-I || AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, HEI-T* || 53 || 50 || 39 || 29 || 21 || 16
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| 30x170 APDS-T || 110 || 101 || 95 || 69 || 52 || 41
 
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| 30x170 APDS-T || APDS, AP-I, AP-I, HEI-T* || 110 || 101 || 95 || 69 || 52 || 41
 
 
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===Radars===
 
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! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>target speed|The minimum speed a target must be moving, relative to the radar, in order to be tracked by the radar}}
 
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| 15,000 m || 75 m || ±100° || -20°/+85° || 15 m/s (54 km/h)
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| 15,000 m || 75 m || ±100° || -20°/+85° || 15 m/s (54 km/h)
 
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| I
 
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| Parts
 
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| Horizontal Drive||30x170 HE-I-T||
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| Horizontal Drive
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| II
 
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| Suspension||Brake System
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| Suspension
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| Brake System
 
| FPE
 
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| Adjustment of Fire||30x170 APHE-I||
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| Adjustment of Fire
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| 30x170 APHE-I
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| III
 
| III
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| Filters||
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| Crew Replenishment
 
| Crew Replenishment
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| Elevation Mechanism||Smoke grenade||
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| Elevation Mechanism
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| Smoke grenade
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| IV
 
| IV
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| Transmission
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| Engine
 
| ESS
 
| ESS
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| Artillery Support
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| Laser rangefinder
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| 30x170 APDS-T
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
  
 
* Fast rate of fire, generally 50-100 RPM higher compared to other 30-35 mm gun SPAA
 
* Fast rate of fire, generally 50-100 RPM higher compared to other 30-35 mm gun SPAA
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[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=spaa&vehicle=fr_amx_30_dca '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the AMX-30 DCA from live.warthunder.com.]
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Revision as of 09:11, 6 August 2020

Rank 7 USA
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AMX-30 S DCA
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AMX-30 S DCA
France flag.png France
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
8.7 8.7 8.7
Class:
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This page is about the French self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle AMX-30 S DCA. For other uses, see AMX-30 (Family).

Description

GarageImage AMX-30 S DCA.jpg


The AMX-30 S DCA is a rank VI French self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance".

General info

Survivability and armour

Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 71 71 36 994 1,240 27.61 34.44
Realistic 66 66 619 650 17.19 18.06

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: HSS 831A (30 mm)

The armament consists of 2x30mm HSS 831A cannons with 300 RPG with a quick, fixed fire rate and can make use of 3 types of munitions :

  • High-explosive incendiary (self-destroying, note that the self-destruction range coincides with the radar's lead indicator maximum distance, making the shell inadequate at longer ranges)
  • Armour-piercing incendiary tracer, which can be used against lightly armoured vehicles and enemy SPAAs, though the damage to enemy aircraft is reduced, the shell can be used outside radar range since it does not self destruct.
  • High-velocity armour-piercing tracer (APDS), which can be used against targets mentioned above and additionally, can be used to attack the side profile of enemy MBTs with reasonable effectiveness.
30 mm HSS 831A (x2) Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 1,200 (300) 600 -5°/+85° ±180° N/A 70.4 97.5 __.__ __.__ __.__ 65.0 _.__ _.__ 50.0
Realistic 47.6 56.0 __.__ __.__ __.__

Ammunition

  • Default: AP-I · HEI-T
  • 30x170 HE-I-T: HEI-T · HEI · HEI · AP-I
  • 30x170 APHE-I: AP-I · AP-I · AP-I · HEI-T
  • 30x170 APDS-T: APDS · AP-I · AP-I · HEI-T
Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Default 53 50 39 29 21 16
30x170 HE-I-T 53 50 39 29 21 16
30x170 APHE-I 53 50 39 29 21 16
30x170 APDS-T 110 101 95 69 52 41

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
2 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Radars

Main articles: DR-VC-1A, Albis

The AMX-30 DCA is equipped with a DR-VC-1A search radar and an Albis tracking radar. The radar is located at the rear of the turret and cannot be folded. The radar system is capable of tracking a target while scanning, but can only track targets within a 200° arc from the front of the turret.

DR-VC-1A - Target Detection Radar
Maximum
Detection
Range 		Minimum
Detection
Range 		Max Azimuth
Scan Angle 		Max Elevation
Scan Angle 		Minimum
relative speed
15,000 m 1,000 m 360°  ??? 15 m/s (54 km/h)
Albis - Target Tracking Radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range 		Minimum
Tracking
Range 		Azimuth Tracking
Angle 		Elevation Tracking
Angle 		Minimum
target speed
15,000 m 75 m ±100° -20°/+85° 15 m/s (54 km/h)

Usage in battles

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Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive 30x170 HE-I-T
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire 30x170 APHE-I
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism Smoke grenade
IV Transmission Engine ESS Artillery Support Laser rangefinder 30x170 APDS-T

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Fast rate of fire, generally 50-100 RPM higher compared to other 30-35 mm gun SPAA
  • The placement of the three crew members makes taking out the whole crew next to impossible with one shot
  • Hull front of AMX-30 can sometimes block or deflect APHE
  • Very fast considering its hull armour level, unlike the Chieftain Marksman
  • Double or even triple the amount of ammunition, when compared to other 30-35 mm gun SPAA
  • Has radar, unlike some SPAA like the Falcon

Cons:

  • Can only take out light and sometimes medium tanks due to the small size of its guns
  • Lightly armoured turret, with ammunition being very vulnerable to direct attacks

History

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Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the tank;
  • other literature.


France anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled/Half-tracked  P.7.T AA · CCKW 353 AA · TPK 6.41
AMX-13 Derivatives  VTT DCA · AMX-13 DCA 40
Radar SPAAG  AMX-30 S DCA
Missile SPAA  SANTAL · Roland 1 · ▄ItO 90M
Other  AMX-10P

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