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== Description == | == Description == | ||
| − | The PTP86 (86式100毫米滑膛反坦克炮) is a smoothbore anti-tank gun made by NORINCO based on the | + | <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' --> |
| + | The PTP86 (86式100毫米滑膛反坦克炮) is a smoothbore anti-tank gun made by NORINCO based on the 115 mm U-5TS found on T-62 and the later reverse-engineered PTP73 based on Soviet T-12. | ||
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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=== Available ammunition === | === Available ammunition === | ||
| − | PTP86 has quite some options for its ammunition: two types of APFSDS- the infamous 1- | + | <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' --> |
| + | The PTP86 has quite some options for its ammunition: two types of APFSDS - the infamous 1-72-85 APDS-FS and the later DYW PT86-100, Type 1973 HEAT-FS, and the 1-71-74 HE round. | ||
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| + | {{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|1-72-85 APDS-FS, 1-71-74 HE, Type 1973 HEAT-FS, DYW PT86-100}} | ||
=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
| − | Since the gun used newer technologies, although PTP86 and [[Type 69 (100 mm)|Type 69]] shared the same | + | <!-- ''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.'' --> |
| + | Since the gun used newer technologies, although PTP86 and [[Type 69 (100 mm)|Type 69]] shared the same calibre and ammunition (notably, the 1-72-85 APFSDS), at stock they might seem quite the same, but the higher chamber pressure of the gun shines in its velocity, with the introduction of DYW-PT-86, it turns the gun into a nice sniper from range. But try to keep the gun away from hilly terrain, it doesn't have the required depression to go hull-down. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
| + | <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.'' --> | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * Stock access | + | * Stock access to APFSDS |
* Powerful HEATFS | * Powerful HEATFS | ||
* DYW-PT-86 makes short work of enemies with its higher penetration. | * DYW-PT-86 makes short work of enemies with its higher penetration. | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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* Subpar reload time | * Subpar reload time | ||
* Horrible depression angle | * Horrible depression angle | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
| − | In the 1970s, after encountering the Soviet Border Troops at Zenbao/ | + | <!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' --> |
| + | In the 1970s, after encountering the Soviet Border Troops at Zenbao/Damansky Island and [[T-62 545 (China)|capturing a T-62]] from them, PLAGF was in dire need of new cannons to handle the possible masses of Soviet armoured brigades assaulting Mainland China. From that T-62 they developed their own version of T-12 anti-tank gun - the PTP73 100 mm smoothbore AT gun. While the HEATFS was universal between all the 100 mm guns found in Mainland China and came available at that time, this gun came with an underwhelming APFSDS with subpar penetration to many AT guns of the same era. | ||
| − | After the introduction of [[L7A3 (105 mm)|L7A3]] from Austria under license, PLAGF also earned the technologies and alloys | + | After the introduction of [[L7A3 (105 mm)|L7A3]] from Austria under license, PLAGF also earned the technologies and alloys needed to forge a domestic L7 105 mm rifled cannon, therefore they put that technology into good use and upgraded PTP73 with these innovations, thus having the PTP86 as a field towed gun to take down possible Soviet armoured brigades assaults. |
| − | Later when Factory 256 | + | Later when Factory 256 in Chongqing developed the WZ551 wheeled APC for export in 1987 and seeing the performance of NATO forces' wheeled assault gun in the Gulf War, PLAGF attempted to mount this very gun onto WZ551, turning it into PTL87 and PTL97 and eventually, the fruit of these two vehicles was the mass-produced [[PTL02]], serving as a quick response vehicle for possible assaults on battlefield with extensive road network; with the introduction of tube-launched ATGMs and newer APFSDS in the late 2000s, this old gun can still serve its purpose on handling tanks while having the mobility to change position. |
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;'' | * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;'' | ||
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.'' | * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
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* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
Latest revision as of 20:58, 5 February 2023
Contents
Description
The PTP86 (86式100毫米滑膛反坦克炮) is a smoothbore anti-tank gun made by NORINCO based on the 115 mm U-5TS found on T-62 and the later reverse-engineered PTP73 based on Soviet T-12.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
The PTP86 has quite some options for its ammunition: two types of APFSDS - the infamous 1-72-85 APDS-FS and the later DYW PT86-100, Type 1973 HEAT-FS, and the 1-71-74 HE round.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| Type 71 APDS-FS | APFSDS | 219 | 213 | 194 | 170 | 147 | 126 |
| Type 71 HE | HE | 26 | 26 | 23 | 19 | 17 | 17 |
| Type 1973 HEAT-FS | HEATFS | 390 | 390 | 390 | 390 | 390 | 390 |
| DYW PT86-100 | APFSDS | 381 | 378 | 372 | 364 | 356 | 347 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| Type 71 APDS-FS | APFSDS | 1,505 | 3.05 | - | - | - | 72° | 76° | 78° | |||
| Type 71 HE | HE | 900 | 15 | 0.2 | 0.1 | 1.3 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Type 1973 HEAT-FS | HEATFS | 1,000 | 10.05 | 0.05 | 0.1 | 1.18 | 65° | 72° | 77° | |||
| DYW PT86-100 | APFSDS | 1,610 | 3.3 | - | - | - | 78° | 80° | 81° | |||
Comparison with analogues
Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.
Usage in battles
Since the gun used newer technologies, although PTP86 and Type 69 shared the same calibre and ammunition (notably, the 1-72-85 APFSDS), at stock they might seem quite the same, but the higher chamber pressure of the gun shines in its velocity, with the introduction of DYW-PT-86, it turns the gun into a nice sniper from range. But try to keep the gun away from hilly terrain, it doesn't have the required depression to go hull-down.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Stock access to APFSDS
- Powerful HEATFS
- DYW-PT-86 makes short work of enemies with its higher penetration.
Cons:
- Subpar reload time
- Horrible depression angle
History
In the 1970s, after encountering the Soviet Border Troops at Zenbao/Damansky Island and capturing a T-62 from them, PLAGF was in dire need of new cannons to handle the possible masses of Soviet armoured brigades assaulting Mainland China. From that T-62 they developed their own version of T-12 anti-tank gun - the PTP73 100 mm smoothbore AT gun. While the HEATFS was universal between all the 100 mm guns found in Mainland China and came available at that time, this gun came with an underwhelming APFSDS with subpar penetration to many AT guns of the same era.
After the introduction of L7A3 from Austria under license, PLAGF also earned the technologies and alloys needed to forge a domestic L7 105 mm rifled cannon, therefore they put that technology into good use and upgraded PTP73 with these innovations, thus having the PTP86 as a field towed gun to take down possible Soviet armoured brigades assaults.
Later when Factory 256 in Chongqing developed the WZ551 wheeled APC for export in 1987 and seeing the performance of NATO forces' wheeled assault gun in the Gulf War, PLAGF attempted to mount this very gun onto WZ551, turning it into PTL87 and PTL97 and eventually, the fruit of these two vehicles was the mass-produced PTL02, serving as a quick response vehicle for possible assaults on battlefield with extensive road network; with the introduction of tube-launched ATGMs and newer APFSDS in the late 2000s, this old gun can still serve its purpose on handling tanks while having the mobility to change position.
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
- references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| China tank cannons | |
|---|---|
| 30 mm | ZPL02 · ZPZ02 |
| 73 mm | Type 86 |
| 76 mm | M32K1 |
| 85 mm | Type 56 · Type 63 |
| 100 mm | PTP86 · Type 59 · Type 69 · Type 69-II · ZPL04 |
| 105 mm | 88B-105T · Type 83 · WMA301 · ZPL94 · ZPL98A |
| 120 mm | 122TM · PTZ89 |
| 125 mm | Type 88C · Type 99A · ZPT98 |
| 130 mm | PL59A Gai |
| 152 mm | PL66 Gai |
| Foreign: | |
| 20 mm | KwK30 (Germany) |
| 37 mm | M6 (USA) |
| 45 mm | 20-K (USSR) |
| 47 mm | Type 1 (Japan) |
| 57 mm | Type 97 (Japan) · ZIS-2 (USSR) |
| 75 mm | M2 Howitzer (USA) · M3 (USA) · M6 (USA) |
| 76 mm | D-56T (USSR) · F-34 (USSR) · M1 (USA) · M7 (USA) · ZIS-3 (USSR) |
| 85 mm | ZIS-S-53 (USSR) |
| 90 mm | M3 (USA) · M41 (USA) |
| 100 mm | D-10S (USSR) |
| 105 mm | M68 (USA) · M68A1 (USA) |
| 115 mm | U-5TS (USSR) |
| 122 mm | A-19 (USSR) · D-25T (USSR) |
| 152 mm | ML-20S (USSR) |
