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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:Hotchkiss Mle 1929.jpg|thumb|13.2mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929 in Naval quadmount]]
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''The Hotchkill Mle 1929 & Mle 1930 was French built heavy machine-gun used for multi-purpose. more commonly used as close anti-air defence by the French Navy, it was also commonly used by the French Infantry during the 30s until WW2. the guns was also adapted as main armament for tanks, armoured cars and anti-aircraft vehicles. it was for France the equivalent of the [https://wiki.warthunder.com/M2HB_(12.7_mm) 12.7mm M2HB]''
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[[File:Hotchkiss Mle 1929.jpg|right|thumb|13.2mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929 in Naval quadmount]]
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The '''13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930''' is a French-build heavy machine gun for multi-purpose use. Starting as Hotchkiss Mle 1929, the Mle 1930 is a ground-based anti-aircraft designation of the machine gun. It is commonly used as close anti-air defence by the French Navy and also by the French Infantry during the 30s until WW2. The guns was also adapted as main armament for tanks, armoured cars and anti-aircraft vehicles. The Hotchkiss was for France the equivalent of the [[M2HB_(12.7_mm)|M2 Browning]] heavy machine gun.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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''the 13.2mm Hotchkiss offer a good and balanced performance against aircraft and soft targets, but have difficulty against vehicles with more than 20mm of armour. feed by 30 rounds magazine, it would often show a limited capacity to sustain a suppressing fire. the gun have a fire-rate of 450 Rounds minutes but it practice, it would seldom reach 20 Rounds minutes due to the reload and recoil''
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The 13.2 mm Hotchkiss offer a good and balanced performance against aircraft and soft targets, but have difficulty against vehicles with more than 20 mm of armour. It feeds from a 30 rounds magazine, which would lead to the weapon's limited capacity to sustain a suppressing fire. The gun has a fire-rate of 450 rounds per minutes, but in practice it would seldom reach 20 rounds per minutes due to the reload and recoil.
  
 
=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
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[[File:13.2mm Ammunition.jpg|thumb|main combat rounds for the 13.2mm Hotchkiss]]
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''Many ammunition are available for those guns, but not all of them are currently in the game''
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Only one belt is currently available for the Hotchkiss in the game, the AP-T belt.
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'''AP-T belt composition:''' AP-I, API-T
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
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! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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| AP-I || 24 || 23 || 14 || 10 || 7 || 4
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| API-T || 24 || 23 || 14 || 10 || 7 || 4
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="9" | Belt details
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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| AP-I || 800|| 0.05 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
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| API-T || 800|| 0.05 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
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* [[M2HB_(12.7_mm)|M2HB (12.7 mm)]] - Similar gun in performance, but a lot more successful. It replaced the Hotchkiss 13.2mm after WW2 for standardization purpose.
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* [[Type_93_(13.2_mm)|Type 93 (13.2 mm)]] - Japanese license copy of the Hotchkiss
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* [[Breda_Model_31_(13.2_mm)|Breda Model 31 (13.2 mm)] - Italian license copy of the Hotchkiss
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== Usage in battles ==
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
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* Good fire-rate
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* Effective against soft target
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* Effective against aircraft
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'''Cons:'''
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* Penetration a bit lacking
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* Magazine has only 30-rounds
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== History ==
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Developed by Hotchkiss & Cie in the middle of the 20s, the Hotckiss Mle 1929 was a multi-purpose heavy machine gun. First used by the French Navy, it was serving as close anti-air defence for the ships for up to 2,500 meters. The Army also adopted the gun, but in the Mle 1930 variants. The difference was that the Mle 1930 wasn't equipped with the sight and mount that allow the machine-gun to be used against the aircraft. The reason was the French army worry about the bullets might fall back on civilian area and potentially kill someone. The Army strictly used this armament as anti-tank and anti-infantry weapons in their official services.
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In the 1930s, the French cavalry mounted the 13.2 mm machine gun onto AMR.35 ZT1 reconnaissance vehicles to add some anti-tank capability to defend themselves during missions. This was also attempted on armoured cars such as the Laffly 80AM. Some machine guns were also exported arming anti-aircraft trucks, though the export attempt had little success with the only notable customer being Chile.
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===Hotchkiss Ammunition===
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[[File:13.2mm Ammunition.jpg|thumb|main combat rounds for the 13.2mm Hotchkiss]]
  
 
==== '''Cartouche à balle ordinaire O or AP type O''' ====
 
==== '''Cartouche à balle ordinaire O or AP type O''' ====
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can be identify by the primer seal painted Yellow
 
can be identify by the primer seal painted Yellow
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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''[https://wiki.warthunder.com/M2HB_(12.7_mm) 12.7mm M2HB]'' - Similar gun in performance but a lot more successful. it replace the Hotchkiss 13.2mm after WW2 for standardization purpose.
 
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[https://wiki.warthunder.com/Type_93_(13.2_mm) Type 93 (13.2 mm)]- Japanese license copy
 
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[https://wiki.warthunder.com/Breda_Model_31_(13.2_mm) Breda Model 31 (13.2 mm)] - Italian License copy
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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''The Hotckiss Mle 1929 was first used by the French navy in multiple guns mount. this armament was used by them to provide close anti-aircraft support in a range of 2500 m.''
 
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the gun was also carried by the Infantry in tripod as an heavy machine-gun.
 
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during the 30s, it was proposed for export as main armament of anti-aircraft truck. notably for Chile, but without success on export.
 
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During the late 30s, the French cavalry had installed the 13.2mm on the AMR 35 ZT-1 to give the reconnaissance vehicles a bit of anti-tank capacity in order to give it the capacity to defend themselves during their mission.
 
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the French Cavalry also mounted this gun on some of their Armoured car such as the Laffly 80AM
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Good fire-rate
 
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* Effective against soft target
 
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* effective against aircraft
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
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* penetration a bit lacking
 
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* Magazine of only 30-rounds
 
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== History ==
 
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Developed by Hotchkiss & Cie in the middle of the 20s, the Hotckiss Mle 1929 was a multi-purpose heavy machine gun. first used by the French Navy, it was serving as close anti-air defence for the ships. the Army also adopted the gun, but in the Mle 1930 variants. thee difference was the Mle 1930 wasn't equipped with the sight and mount that allow the machine-gun to be used against the aircraft. the reason was the French army worry about the bullets might fall back on civilian area and potentially kill someone. the Army strictly used this armament as anti-tank and anti-infantry weapons in his official services. however, during the exile of the French army, and under Vichy regime, serial field modification appear mounting the 13.2mm Hotchkiss on truck. usually with Naval mount. those was usually used for convoy escort and anti-aircraft defence.
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==

Revision as of 03:31, 26 July 2022

Description

13.2mm Hotchkiss Mle 1929 in Naval quadmount

The 13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930 is a French-build heavy machine gun for multi-purpose use. Starting as Hotchkiss Mle 1929, the Mle 1930 is a ground-based anti-aircraft designation of the machine gun. It is commonly used as close anti-air defence by the French Navy and also by the French Infantry during the 30s until WW2. The guns was also adapted as main armament for tanks, armoured cars and anti-aircraft vehicles. The Hotchkiss was for France the equivalent of the M2 Browning heavy machine gun.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

The 13.2 mm Hotchkiss offer a good and balanced performance against aircraft and soft targets, but have difficulty against vehicles with more than 20 mm of armour. It feeds from a 30 rounds magazine, which would lead to the weapon's limited capacity to sustain a suppressing fire. The gun has a fire-rate of 450 rounds per minutes, but in practice it would seldom reach 20 rounds per minutes due to the reload and recoil.

Available ammunition

Only one belt is currently available for the Hotchkiss in the game, the AP-T belt.

AP-T belt composition: AP-I, API-T

Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
AP-I 24 23 14 10 7 4
API-T 24 23 14 10 7 4
Belt details
Belt Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
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AP-I 800 0.05 N/A N/A N/A 47° 56° 65°
API-T 800 0.05 N/A N/A N/A 47° 56° 65°

Comparison with analogues

  • M2HB (12.7 mm) - Similar gun in performance, but a lot more successful. It replaced the Hotchkiss 13.2mm after WW2 for standardization purpose.
  • Type 93 (13.2 mm) - Japanese license copy of the Hotchkiss
  • [[Breda_Model_31_(13.2_mm)|Breda Model 31 (13.2 mm)] - Italian license copy of the Hotchkiss

Usage in battles

Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good fire-rate
  • Effective against soft target
  • Effective against aircraft

Cons:

  • Penetration a bit lacking
  • Magazine has only 30-rounds

History

Developed by Hotchkiss & Cie in the middle of the 20s, the Hotckiss Mle 1929 was a multi-purpose heavy machine gun. First used by the French Navy, it was serving as close anti-air defence for the ships for up to 2,500 meters. The Army also adopted the gun, but in the Mle 1930 variants. The difference was that the Mle 1930 wasn't equipped with the sight and mount that allow the machine-gun to be used against the aircraft. The reason was the French army worry about the bullets might fall back on civilian area and potentially kill someone. The Army strictly used this armament as anti-tank and anti-infantry weapons in their official services.

In the 1930s, the French cavalry mounted the 13.2 mm machine gun onto AMR.35 ZT1 reconnaissance vehicles to add some anti-tank capability to defend themselves during missions. This was also attempted on armoured cars such as the Laffly 80AM. Some machine guns were also exported arming anti-aircraft trucks, though the export attempt had little success with the only notable customer being Chile.

Hotchkiss Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of

warhead

Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Type O AP 24 23 14 10 7 4
Type OT AP-T 24 23 14 10 7 4
Type P APC 28 27 20 15 11 9
Type PT APC-T 28 27 20 15 11 9
Shell details
     Ammunition        Type of

warhead

Velocity

(m/s)

Projectile

Mass (kg)

Fuse delay

(m)

Fuse sensitivity

(mm)

Explosive Mass

(TNT equivalent) (g)

Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Type O AP 810 0.051 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Type OT AP-T 810 0.051 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Type P APC 810 0.052 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Type PT APC-T 810 0.052 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
main combat rounds for the 13.2mm Hotchkiss

Cartouche à balle ordinaire O or AP type O

it was a standard armour piercing rounds used against soft target such as infantry, unarmoured vehicles and aircraft. the projectile was made of carbon steel and was capped with lead. there was a brass cloak around the projectile.

can be identify by the primer seal painted either Black or Purple

projectile weight : 51,2 g

Velocity : 810 m/sec

Cartouche à balle traçante OT or AP-T type OT

it was a standard rounds equipped with a tracer tail. it have the same ballistic as the Type O

can be identify by the primer seal painted Green

Cartouche à balle perforante P or AP type P

this round was a armour piercing hardened round used against armoured target. the projectile was made of alloy Tungsten-steel (3% tungsten, 97% steel) and was tempered. there was a lead cap and brass cloak on the rounds

can be identify by primer seal painted Red

projectile weight : 52 g

Velocity : 810 m/sec

Cartouche à balle perforante traçante PT or AP-T type PT

it was a armour piercing rounds equipped with a tracer tail. it have the same ballistic as the Type P

can be identify by the primer seal painted Yellow

Media

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See also

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  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

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France anti-aircraft guns
13.2 mm  Hotchkiss Mle 1930
20 mm  GIAT M693/mod F2 · Oerlikon KAD (Swiss)
30 mm  HSS 831A
40 mm  Bofors L/60 · Mle. 1951 T1 (Bofors L/70)

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