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Being a Standard type battleship, the Nevada is insufferably slow. The top speed of 38 km/h (RB) is among the slowest of any capital ship, and the acceleration and deceleration isn't much better.  
  
 
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The Nevada is armed with a total of 10x 356 mm 45 calibre cannons, arranged in four turrets, two superfiring forward, two superfiring aft.  Interestingly, the Nevada uses a mix of three-gun turrets and two-gun turrets, the smaller of which superfires over the larger turret. Although the same calibre as the Arizona, these 356 mm guns are the Mark 12 version rather than the earlier Mark 8 of the Arizona, though the guns of both ships share the exact same shell performance, giving Arizona a slight edge in surface warfare due to the extra two guns.
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And like the Arizona, the Nevada has the same cramped turrets, resulting has the same excruciating reload rate of 40 seconds, at best, meaning that any missed salvoes will seriously cut into the damage output.
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The filler of the Mk.9 HE, at 46.67 kg TNT equivalent is the best currently in the US tech tree, with 13 kg more explosive mass than the Wyoming's 305 mm HE. The shell can cause flooding and fire on any ship taking a hit, the damage may be severe enough from a concentrated salvo for many destroyers and sometimes even cruisers to roll over and capsize. It should be noted, however, that USN ammunition has historically contained less filler than other nations' navies. While containing more filler than the Japanese and German 305 mm shells, it does not compare favourably even against the 305 mm shells on the Ruso/Soviet capital ships, let alone against the monstrous 88.11 kg explosive mass found on the 343 mm shells of the [[HMS Marlborough]].
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The Mk.8 AP shell has fairly respectable level of penetration, with a maximum of 637 mm at 1 km and 444 mm at 10 km. This is the main shell to use on enemy capital ships, and especially those with effective armour layouts. The bursting charge is not bad either, standing at 15.24 kg, heavier than the charge in Japanese 356 mm AP, though lighter than the charge in British 343 mm Mk.Ia AP.
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To get the most out of the shell, it is recommended to aim for magazines, engines, shell magazines and other essential components of the enemy ships. This shell is usually not suited for firing upon ships such as destroyers or lightly armoured cruisers (<70-100 mm armour) unless being fired directly down the centreline of the vessel, as it will more often than not fly through the ship and explode in the open, rather than on the inside the enemy ship as.
  
 
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The Nevada is equipped with 8x 127 mm dual purpose 38 calibre turrets, 16 guns total. Commonly used on a variety of other US warships of the era, these turrets have two main attractions.  
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First is the fire rate. The turrets have one of the most competitive fire rates of any destroyer calibre gun (100-138.6 mm), which can create a true deluge of fire. Secondly, they have access to proximity-fuze HE shells, which are excellent for use against aircraft. A broadside of eight 127 mm guns repeatedly firing this shell in quick succession is enough to turn most prospective attack aircraft into smouldering wrecks, even without the use of all the lighter AA guns.  
  
 
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* Decent quality 356 mm shells
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* Heavily armoured
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* Large and effective AA suite
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Revision as of 14:30, 20 March 2023

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
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USS Nevada
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Description

The Nevada-class, USS Nevada (BB-36), 1944 is one of two Nevada-class battleships built for the US Navy, laid down in 1912 and commissioned in 1916. USS Nevada was commissioned first, making her the first "Standard-Type" battleship. Her innovations would be carried forward into the future American battleships, including triple gun turrets and the introduction of the "all-or-nothing" armour scheme. She would serve with distinction through both World Wars, seeing extensive combat action during World War II in particular.

She was introduced into War Thunder in Update "Sky Guardians", and although having a slightly smaller main battery than the later USS Arizona, she stands out with her incredibly strong secondary and anti-aircraft batteries. Coming in her late war refit, USS Nevada gives American bluewater captains their first battleship with both strong firepower, and the ability to easily fend off air attack. This does come with the caveat of having at minimum a 40 second reload on the main battery; it's recommended to keep enemies at a distance where the long time between salvos can be mitigated.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Citadel330 / 343 / 87 mm
Main fire tower457 / 254 / 228 mm
Hull25 mm (steel)
Superstructure16 mm (steel)
Number of section9
Displacement35 400 t
Crew2 238 people

USS Nevada is a very well-armoured battleship. Like other American battleships of the time, she was designed to be able to resist guns similar to her own 14-inch guns at expected battle ranges. This gives her a main armour belt of 13.5 inches, the same as the later USS Arizona. Keep in mind that "expected battle ranges" as designed were usually much further than what is typical in War Thunder, so Captains can't always expect their armour to hold up against guns such as the British 13.5 inch and the various 14-inch guns; albeit 12-inch shells should usually be stopped. The belt goes from 13.5 inches at the waterline, to 8 inches slightly below the waterline and 3 inches further down. This leads into the torpedo protection, which on Nevada protects against torpedos with warheads of up to 250 kg explosive mass.

The best armoured area on the ship are the turrets; the angled 16-inch plates on the turret faces are almost impenetrable, the 43 degree angle making it incredibly unlikely for any fire to penetrate the face. The armour is lighter on the sides, rear and top with 10-inches, 9-inch, and 5-inches on top. This leaves the sides and top of the turrets vulnerable to even heavy cruisers, so it's recommended to be cautious of exposing the sides of the turrets. The barbettes also have 13 inches of armour, which is quite good, more than most battleships of the same rank. The magazines are placed slightly below the waterline and against the waterline, mostly shielding them from enemy fire; however shots on a flat trajectory directly above the waterline do pose a slight risk of ammorack.

USS Nevada was the first ship ever to use the "all or nothing" armour scheme. This armour philosophy uses the most armour in critical areas like the citadel, and none other areas. This is perfect for fighting enemy capital ships at range, as AP shells will pass through unimportant areas that lack armour armour without fusing, and allows for the thickest possible armour over important sections of the ship. However, keep in mind that this also makes the unprotected areas of the ship vulnerable to taking damage from smaller ships, even destroyers. These areas may not be important, but crew still resides in these areas and constant repairing will still bleed the USS Nevada of crew, even more so on Nevada since she has so many secondary and anti-aircraft guns.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB44 / 27 km/h
RB38 / 23 km/h

Being a Standard type battleship, the Nevada is insufferably slow. The top speed of 38 km/h (RB) is among the slowest of any capital ship, and the acceleration and deceleration isn't much better.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 44 27
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 38 23

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB25 320 → 32 966 Sl icon.png
RB31 147 → 40 553 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications292 000 Rp icon.png
446 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 300 Ge icon.png
Crew training280 000 Sl icon.png
Experts990 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces830 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
450 / 600 / 100 % Sl icon.png
208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
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Dry-Docking
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Rudder Replacement
Research:
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Propeller Replacement
Research:
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Cost:
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290 Ge icon.png
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Engine Maintenance
Research:
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Cost:
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570 Ge icon.png
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Damage Control Division
Research:
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Cost:
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Fire Division
Research:
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Cost:
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380 Ge icon.png
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Shrapnel Protection
Research:
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Cost:
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290 Ge icon.png
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Ventilation
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Cost:
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New Pumps
Research:
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Cost:
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Ammo Wetting
Research:
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Cost:
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570 Ge icon.png
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Anti-Air Armament Targeting
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
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290 Ge icon.png
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127mm_usa_mk32_common_sap_ammo_pack
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Auxiliary Armament Targeting
Research:
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Cost:
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380 Ge icon.png
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127mm_usa_mk46_special_common_sap_ammo_pack
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Primary Armament Targeting
Research:
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Cost:
18 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
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Cost:
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290 Ge icon.png
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Improved Rangefinder
Research:
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Cost:
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Hydroplane
Research:
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Cost:
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570 Ge icon.png

Armament

Primary armament

2 х Turret3 x 14 inch/45 Mk.12 cannon
Ammunition300 rounds
Vertical guidance-5° / 30°
2 х Turret2 x 14 inch/45 Mk.12 cannon
Ammunition200 rounds
Vertical guidance-5° / 30°

The Nevada is armed with a total of 10x 356 mm 45 calibre cannons, arranged in four turrets, two superfiring forward, two superfiring aft. Interestingly, the Nevada uses a mix of three-gun turrets and two-gun turrets, the smaller of which superfires over the larger turret. Although the same calibre as the Arizona, these 356 mm guns are the Mark 12 version rather than the earlier Mark 8 of the Arizona, though the guns of both ships share the exact same shell performance, giving Arizona a slight edge in surface warfare due to the extra two guns.

And like the Arizona, the Nevada has the same cramped turrets, resulting has the same excruciating reload rate of 40 seconds, at best, meaning that any missed salvoes will seriously cut into the damage output.

The filler of the Mk.9 HE, at 46.67 kg TNT equivalent is the best currently in the US tech tree, with 13 kg more explosive mass than the Wyoming's 305 mm HE. The shell can cause flooding and fire on any ship taking a hit, the damage may be severe enough from a concentrated salvo for many destroyers and sometimes even cruisers to roll over and capsize. It should be noted, however, that USN ammunition has historically contained less filler than other nations' navies. While containing more filler than the Japanese and German 305 mm shells, it does not compare favourably even against the 305 mm shells on the Ruso/Soviet capital ships, let alone against the monstrous 88.11 kg explosive mass found on the 343 mm shells of the HMS Marlborough.

The Mk.8 AP shell has fairly respectable level of penetration, with a maximum of 637 mm at 1 km and 444 mm at 10 km. This is the main shell to use on enemy capital ships, and especially those with effective armour layouts. The bursting charge is not bad either, standing at 15.24 kg, heavier than the charge in Japanese 356 mm AP, though lighter than the charge in British 343 mm Mk.Ia AP.

To get the most out of the shell, it is recommended to aim for magazines, engines, shell magazines and other essential components of the enemy ships. This shell is usually not suited for firing upon ships such as destroyers or lightly armoured cruisers (<70-100 mm armour) unless being fired directly down the centreline of the vessel, as it will more often than not fly through the ship and explode in the open, rather than on the inside the enemy ship as.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
Mk.9 HE HE 71 71 71 71 71 71
Mk.8 APCBC APCBC 637 597 536 484 439 372
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Mk.9 HE HE 823 635 0 0.1 46.67 79° 80° 81°
Mk.8 APCBC APCBC 823 635 0.035 17 15.24 48° 63° 71°

Secondary armament

8 х Turret2 x 5 inch/38 Mk.12 cannon, mount Mk.32
Ammunition720 rounds

The Nevada is equipped with 8x 127 mm dual purpose 38 calibre turrets, 16 guns total. Commonly used on a variety of other US warships of the era, these turrets have two main attractions.

First is the fire rate. The turrets have one of the most competitive fire rates of any destroyer calibre gun (100-138.6 mm), which can create a true deluge of fire. Secondly, they have access to proximity-fuze HE shells, which are excellent for use against aircraft. A broadside of eight 127 mm guns repeatedly firing this shell in quick succession is enough to turn most prospective attack aircraft into smouldering wrecks, even without the use of all the lighter AA guns.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
AAC Mk.34 HE 36 36 36 36 36 36
Common Mk.32 Common 124 103 77 58 46 37
SP Common Mk.46 SP Common 150 125 93 71 56 45
AAVT Mk.31 HE-VT 36 36 36 36 36 36
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
AAC Mk.34 HE 792 25 0 0.1 3,220 79° 80° 81°
Common Mk.32 Common 792 24.49 0.01 6 1,150 47° 60° 65°
SP Common Mk.46 SP Common 792 25 0.01 6 906.5 48° 63° 71°
Proximity-fused shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Arming
distance (m)
Trigger
radius (m)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
AAVT Mk.31 HE-VT 792 25 0 0.1 457 23 3,220 79° 80° 81°

Anti-aircraft armament

8 х Turret4 x 40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 2 gun
Ammunition8000 rounds
Belt capacity4 rounds
Fire rate156 shots/min
40 х Turret20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon
Ammunition1800 rounds
Belt capacity60 rounds
Fire rate450 shots/min

An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control Select anti-aircraft weapons. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.

Scout plane

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Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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Pros:

  • Decent quality 356 mm shells
  • Heavily armoured
  • Large and effective AA suite

Cons:

  • Incredibly slow
  • AA suite highly vulnerable to explosive blasts
  • Longest main battery reload of any ship in game

History

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Media

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See also

Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the ship;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


USA battleships
Delaware-class  USS North Dakota
Wyoming-class  USS Wyoming · USS Arkansas
New York-class  USS Texas
Nevada-class  USS Nevada
Pennsylvania-class  USS Arizona
New Mexico-class  USS Mississippi
Tennessee-class  USS Tennessee