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== PLA Naming System ==
 
== PLA Naming System ==
As we might know, PLAGF- People's Liberation Army Ground Forces has a "fax-machine like" naming system, according to PhlyDaily's title of his [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4S_i_40CnQ ZTZ96 video], but there is actually a pattern and standards. Known as the 《全军武器装备命名规则》(Naming Regulations for Military Equipment) since 1987 and the later 《中国人民解放军装备命名规定》(PLA's Regulations on Equipment Naming) from 2012, instead of the very political naming in the early 1960s and the well-known Type XX of certain vehicle (as far as I can dig up from known documentations).
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As we might know, PLAGF- People's Liberation Army Ground Forces has a "fax-machine like" naming system, according to PhlyDaily's title of his [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4S_i_40CnQ ZTZ96 video], but there is actually a pattern and standards. Known as the 《全军武器装备命名规则》(Standard Nomenclature Details of Armored Vehicles) since 1987 and the later 《中国人民解放军装备命名规定》(lit. PLA's Regulations on Equipment Naming) from 2012 (classified for now), instead of the very political naming in the early 1960s and the well-known Type XX of certain vehicle (as far as I can dig up from known documentations).
  
 
WZ-numbers means Wujibu-Zhuangjia 五机部-装甲 (5th Ministry of Machine Building-Armored Vehicle) code from factory issued by 5th Ministry of Machine Building (第五机械工业部,currently NORINCO and CSGC)  such as WZ123 in ZTZ99 case.
 
WZ-numbers means Wujibu-Zhuangjia 五机部-装甲 (5th Ministry of Machine Building-Armored Vehicle) code from factory issued by 5th Ministry of Machine Building (第五机械工业部,currently NORINCO and CSGC)  such as WZ123 in ZTZ99 case.
  
 
The following table will give you a speculation of (usual) vehicles naming and how it works, capitalized character is the first letter of its pinyin.
 
The following table will give you a speculation of (usual) vehicles naming and how it works, capitalized character is the first letter of its pinyin.
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''(Note: Strikethroughs need further clarification from Chinese documents under current naming standards)''
  
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
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!Example
 
!Example
 
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| rowspan="5" |Z-Zhuangjia 装甲 Armored
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| rowspan="5" |Z-Zhuangjia cheliang装甲车辆 AFV
|B-Bubing 步兵 Infantry
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|B-Bubing zhanche 步兵战车 IFV
 
|D-lüDai 履带 Tracked
 
|D-lüDai 履带 Tracked
 
L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
 
L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
 
| rowspan="9" |1900-2099
 
| rowspan="9" |1900-2099
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(The first 2 digits can be ignored in normal use)
 
|[[ZBD86]]
 
|[[ZBD86]]
 
|-
 
|-
|G-Gongcheng 工程(保障车)
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|G-Gongcheng baozhang cheliang工程保障车辆
 
Engineering vehicle
 
Engineering vehicle
 
|Q-jiaQiao 架桥 Bridge layer
 
|Q-jiaQiao 架桥 Bridge layer
 
L-sao(bu)Lei 扫(布)雷 Mine sweeping/laying
 
L-sao(bu)Lei 扫(布)雷 Mine sweeping/laying
  
G-Gongcheng 工程(作业车)Engineering operation  
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G-Gongcheng 工程(作业车)Engineering operation
 
|ZGG84
 
|ZGG84
 
ZGQ84
 
ZGQ84
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(based on ZTZ79)
 
(based on ZTZ79)
 
|-
 
|-
|S-Shusong 输送 Transport
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|S-zhuangjia Shusongche 装甲输送车 APC
 
|D-lüDai 履带 Tracked
 
|D-lüDai 履带 Tracked
 
 
L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
 
L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
 
|ZSL92
 
|ZSL92
 
(WZ551)
 
(WZ551)
 
|-
 
|-
|T-Tanke/*Tuji 坦克/突击 Tank/Assault
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|T-Tanke 坦克 Tank
|D-lüDai 履带 Tracked
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|<s>D-lüDai 履带 Tracked</s>
L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
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<s>L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled</s>
  
 
Q-Qingxing 轻型 Light
 
Q-Qingxing 轻型 Light
  
Z-Zhuzhan 主战 Main Battle
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Z-Zhuzhan/Zhongxing 主战/中型坦克 MBT
  
S-Shusong 输送 Transport
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S-Shuilu 水陆 ''lit.water and land'' Amphibious
 
|[[Type 62|ZTQ62]]
 
|[[Type 62|ZTQ62]]
 
<nowiki>**</nowiki>[[Type 63-I|ZTS63]]
 
<nowiki>**</nowiki>[[Type 63-I|ZTS63]]
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[[ZTZ99]]
 
[[ZTZ99]]
  
ZTD05
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<s>ZTD05</s>
  
ZTL11
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<s>ZTL11</s>
 
|-
 
|-
|Z-Zhihui 指挥 Command
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|Z-Zhandou qinwu cheliang 战斗勤务车辆 Combat service vehicles
 
|Z-Zhihui 指挥 Commanding
 
|Z-Zhihui 指挥 Commanding
 
C-zhenCha 侦察 Scoution
 
C-zhenCha 侦察 Scoution
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D-Dianziduikang 电子对抗 ECM
 
D-Dianziduikang 电子对抗 ECM
  
M-Miyaojiazhu 密匙加注 "password processor"
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M-Miyaojiazhu 密匙加注 Battlefield code encryption
  
F-Fangbao 防爆车- Anti-explosives  
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F-Fangbao 防爆车- Anti-explosives
  
 
X-zongheXinxi 综合信息 Intergraded information (of battlefield)
 
X-zongheXinxi 综合信息 Intergraded information (of battlefield)
 
|N/A
 
|N/A
 
|-
 
|-
| rowspan="4" |P-Pao 炮 Artillery  
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| rowspan="4" |P-Pao 炮 Artillery
 
|G-Gaoshe 高射炮 AA gun
 
|G-Gaoshe 高射炮 AA gun
 
| rowspan="4" |L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
 
| rowspan="4" |L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled
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|T-Tuji 突击炮 Assault gun
 
|T-Tuji 突击炮 Assault gun
 
|PTL97
 
|PTL97
[[PTL02]]
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>[[PTL02]]
 
|}
 
|}
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Note: In early 2000s wheeled assault guns were counted as artillery, while after 2016 they were for heavy composite armored brigades. 
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki>Note: In early 2000s wheeled assault guns were counted as artillery, while after 2016 they were for heavy composite armored brigades. 

Revision as of 15:10, 15 October 2021

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PLA Naming System

As we might know, PLAGF- People's Liberation Army Ground Forces has a "fax-machine like" naming system, according to PhlyDaily's title of his ZTZ96 video, but there is actually a pattern and standards. Known as the 《全军武器装备命名规则》(Standard Nomenclature Details of Armored Vehicles) since 1987 and the later 《中国人民解放军装备命名规定》(lit. PLA's Regulations on Equipment Naming) from 2012 (classified for now), instead of the very political naming in the early 1960s and the well-known Type XX of certain vehicle (as far as I can dig up from known documentations).

WZ-numbers means Wujibu-Zhuangjia 五机部-装甲 (5th Ministry of Machine Building-Armored Vehicle) code from factory issued by 5th Ministry of Machine Building (第五机械工业部,currently NORINCO and CSGC) such as WZ123 in ZTZ99 case.

The following table will give you a speculation of (usual) vehicles naming and how it works, capitalized character is the first letter of its pinyin.

(Note: Strikethroughs need further clarification from Chinese documents under current naming standards)

1st Letter 2nd Letter 3rd Letter Number Example
Z-Zhuangjia cheliang装甲车辆 AFV B-Bubing zhanche 步兵战车 IFV D-lüDai 履带 Tracked

L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled

1900-2099

(The first 2 digits can be ignored in normal use)

ZBD86
G-Gongcheng baozhang cheliang工程保障车辆

Engineering vehicle

Q-jiaQiao 架桥 Bridge layer

L-sao(bu)Lei 扫(布)雷 Mine sweeping/laying

G-Gongcheng 工程(作业车)Engineering operation

ZGG84

ZGQ84

(based on ZTZ79)

S-zhuangjia Shusongche 装甲输送车 APC D-lüDai 履带 Tracked

L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled

ZSL92

(WZ551)

T-Tanke 坦克 Tank D-lüDai 履带 Tracked

L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled

Q-Qingxing 轻型 Light

Z-Zhuzhan/Zhongxing 主战/中型坦克 MBT

S-Shuilu 水陆 lit.water and land Amphibious

ZTQ62

**ZTS63

ZTZ99

ZTD05

ZTL11

Z-Zhandou qinwu cheliang 战斗勤务车辆 Combat service vehicles Z-Zhihui 指挥 Commanding

C-zhenCha 侦察 Scoution

T-Tongxin 通信 Communication

D-Dianziduikang 电子对抗 ECM

M-Miyaojiazhu 密匙加注 Battlefield code encryption

F-Fangbao 防爆车- Anti-explosives

X-zongheXinxi 综合信息 Intergraded information (of battlefield)

N/A
P-Pao 炮 Artillery G-Gaoshe 高射炮 AA gun L-Lunshi 轮式 Wheeled

Z-Zizou 自走 Self-Propelled

PGZ04A

PGZ09

H-Huojiandan 火箭弹 Rocket PHZ89

PHL03

***L-Liudan 榴弹炮 Howitzer PLL05

PLZ05

T-Tuji 突击炮 Assault gun PTL97

*PTL02

*Note: In early 2000s wheeled assault guns were counted as artillery, while after 2016 they were for heavy composite armored brigades. 

** The only ZTS among all PLA equipment

***Gun-mortars (迫榴炮) and howitzers are both counted as 榴彈砲 in this case.

Misconceptions on ZTZ99 Series

ZTZ99, being one of the most iconic PLAGF equipment to western players and the fist of elite armored brigades, has been in deep mystery in terms of its naming due to the relatively lack of information from PLAGF. From this video by Bilibili content creator 院长今天又划水 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1SM4y1g7mC, the naming for ZTZ99 series become more clear as follows:

Italic- Not introduced in game

Bold- Introduced in game

*The naming in Chinese and in-wiki English is different, where the second one should be instead called- Stage I Modified.

** Was ZTZ10 but rumor suggested to avoid duplicated name to JGSDF's Hitomaru (Type 10), it was renamed to ZTZ99A.

In-game name Unified name WZ Number PLAGF naming *Commonly know as Major appearance differences Certificated date First publicly shown Chief designer Note
ZTZ99-I ZTZ99(一类) ZTZ(19)99

Main Battle Tank

WZ123 ZTZ99式 一类定型状态 99一期

99 Stage I

No ERA blocks and applique armor; V-shaped breakwater; bulged at the middle of the turret. 1999 1999/10/1 Zhu Yusheng

祝榆生

(1918-2014)

Erroneously known as Type 98 or by its project number "9910"; the model used in Battlefield™ 2
ZTZ99-II ZTZ99(二类) ZTZ99式 二类定型状态 99一期改

99 Stage II

ERA blocks on UFP and applique armor on the front and sides of turret based on former. c. 2003 N/A Erroneously known as Type 99G; the model used in Battlefield™ 4.
ZTZ99-III ZTZ99(三类) WZ123B ZTZ99式 三类定型状态 99二期

99 Stage III

New welded turret with extended side applique armor and revise of turret front applique blocks; repositioned ERA blocks on UFP with a horizontal breakwater. 2004 2009/10/1 Erroneously known as Type 99A1; basis of NORINCO VT-3 export MBT.
ZTZ99A **ZTZ(20)10 Main Battle Tank WZ1001 ZTZ99A式 99A Completely redesigned tank with a shorter chassis, increased UFP area and new turret; bulged rear chassis for new engine pack. 2010 2015/9/3 Mao Ming

毛明

(1962-)

Erroneously known as Type 99A2; has NO RELATIONSHIP with previous ZTZ99s other than the name.