P.7.T AA

P.7.T AA

P.7.T AA

France

I Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
1.3	1.3	1.3

Class:

SPAA

Research:2 900

Purchase:700

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Description

The Citroen Kegresse P.7.T is a Rank I French self-propelled anti-aircraft gun with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". With its four 13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle.1930 machine guns, it poses a certain threat to enemy aircrafts while featuring poor mobility (off-road) and armour.

The P.7.T AA is a very classic interwar anti-air defense system with its guns mounted on a mobile but vulnerable chassis.

With only 3 exposed crew members, anything can damage, disable or destroy this vehicle. Its armour does not provide enough cover to the crew from any angle. Even .30 cals guns can easily destroy this vehicle, so be sure to stay out of sight from enemies.

The half-track configuration usually provides increased off-road mobility to wheeled vehicles while enabling to carry more weight over the tracked section, a rule to which the P.7.T AA is no exception: It can reliably move itself across any rough terrain. The only downside to this vehicle is its low HP, which makes hill climbing quite slow. This little engine also struggles to bring this much weight to its max speed: One should go downhill and hit the gas in order to reach 40 km/h. Turning on the spot is also a no-go since tracks do not provide enough traction to the ground: Hit the forward key and gain some speed before attempting any manoeuvre. Be patient and choose your path wisely and you should reach your destination soon enough.

With its four HMGs, this SPAA is quite reminiscent of the GAZ-AAA (4M) while having much more firepower. Since these weapons fire simultaneously, one hit usually means four holes in your opponent's hull, a heavy toll to the early planes (and biplanes) you should be shooting at this BR.

General info

Survivability and armour

- Structural Steel Hull

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Tractor Chassis	3 mm	3 mm	3 mm	3 mm

The P.7.T AA has practically no armour. Every crewmember sits mostly exposed to enemy fire, so even a machine gun can quickly kill 2 of the total 3 crewmembers. This means that the P.7.T AA should never be expected to sustain any enemy fire, as it will likely die to anything. The only spots that might stop a rifle caliber round on the whole vehicle are the engine block or turret housing, but these do not fully conceal the crew.

Mobility

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	44	8	2.2	28	38	12.73	17.27
Realistic	41	8		18	20	8.18	9.09

The mobility is above average and smooth overall, while no terrain poses a challenge due to the half-track system. Due to the relatively high potential speed, the P.7.T AA can quickly get into an advantageous position on the map to shoot down planes. Just be sure to keep an eye out for flanking light tanks or fast medium tanks such as the Panzer III and IV, as anything can annihilate you with mere MG fire.

Armaments

The quad 13.2 mm Hotchkiss HMG's are fantastic at shredding planes and start fires very easily due to the belts containing pure API rounds. With their above-average fire rate, high damage, good accuracy and decent reload speed, they are an AA jockey's dream. It is worth noting that they have a limited magazine capacity, only 30 rounds per gun, but this is more-or-less remedied by the fact that there are 4 guns, allowing for 120 rounds total.

However, due to the P.7's low BR, they can be decent at destroying reserve and 1.3 tanks from the sides and rear. It is not recommended to use it in this fashion, as you leave yourself as an easy target for anything with guns.

13.2 mm Hotchkiss Mle 1930 (x4)
Capacity (Belt capacity)		Fire rate (shots/minute)	Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance	Stabilizer
1,440 (30)		450	-10°/+45°	±180°	N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade	52.84	73.13	88.80	98.20	104.47
Realistic	35.7	42.0	51.0	56.4	60.0
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
7.80	6.90	6.36	6.00

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Belt	Penetration in mm @ 90°
		10m	100m	500m	1000m	1500m
Universal	AP-I,API-T	24	23	14	10	7

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the P.7.T AA.

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	Visual discrepancy
48	44 (+4)	28 (+20)	4 (+44)	no

Usage in battles

This SPAA's gameplay should be familiar to Soviet rank 1-2 AA veterans: Multiple guns on a truck platform with limited frontal elevation angles. Such a fragile half-track vehicle should be held away from the frontlines and stick to its spawn.

SPAA

• Playing this as an SPAA is the surest way to score. Do not choose this vehicle early game since there are very little planes to shoot at: The P.7.T AA is a second-pick. Do not engage aircraft from too far away since it will only lower your limited ammo reserve while making yourself vulnerable in the event that a plane chooses to strafe you: you do not want to reload while a plane is coming. Another thing to keep in mind is that your gun elevation is limited. Find yourself a steep hill and park on its side in order to elevate your guns at a decent angle. This gun platform's turning rate does not allow for immediate reactions, so always pre-aim your guns to the nearest threat.

Ambusher

• In urban environments and low BR games (when you are facing reserve tanks), it could be a good idea to slip this slim vehicle into a tight alley (engine deck first) near a capture point and wait for an enemy to pass by. Whenever a light enough target falls into your sights, immobilize it by shooting at the engine deck first and then snipe the crew. This tactic is a very dangerous one, more of a last resort than an actual way to score with this AA. It is best used in conjunction with the allied effort: your fire may drag attention from them, turning your enemy's attention from your more potent allies. This tactic is well-suited for RB matches. Avoid artillery at all cost.

Another version of this tactic is to leave only the gunner exposed by popping him out (with its guns) from the corner of a building.

With its good penetration rates (for an AA) and fast rate of fire, this SPAA can be quite useful to shred light preys.

Modules

Tier	Mobility		Protection	Firepower
I	Tracks		Parts	Horizontal Drive
II	Suspension	Brake System	FPE	Adjustment of Fire
III	Filters		Crew Replenishment	Elevation Mechanism
IV	Transmission	Engine		Artillery Support

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Four 13.2 mm machine guns, able to destroy weakly armoured foes like Ha-Go, AS 42 or T-26, and aircraft like the He 51.
• AP-I/API-T belt as default means it has anti-tank potential even when stock.
• Excellent at actually being an SPAA. A high rate of fire and powerful rounds will shred planes at the rank
• Good at suppressing enemy vehicles
• Light: easy to tow from enemy fire when immobilised
• Can damage some tanks from their weaker sides, like LVT(A) series, Pz.IV C or Pz.II
• Does not lose too much speed when turning due to the half-track configuration

Cons:

• Very low survivability. Crew is exposed, extremely vulnerable to anything especially enemy MG, nearby artillery, bombs and rockets and HE shrapnels. Almost no armour, even 7.62mm MG can damage critical parts like engine or transmission.
• Has difficulty penetrating most enemy tanks frontally, for example Pz.II, B1 bis
• Reload time is rather long, stopping it from firing back in critical times
• Poor off-road mobility and climbing ability makes it slow on hills
• The four canons fire synchronously, which reduces the chances to hit an aircraft
• Gun platform turning and elevation rate are a bit slow (slow reaction, hard to follow close / fast targets)
• Limited elevation of 45° limits its effectiveness against targets directly above it, for example dive bombers like Ju 87 B2. Also it cannot fire in a ~90° arc in front of itself. In a sudden encounter it cannot fight back in time

History

The first half-tracks were built by Frenchman Adolphe Kegresse for Russia in 1910-11. After the First World War Kegresse returned to France to work with Citroen to produce half-tracks for the French Army starting in the 1920s. By 1940, these unarmoured Kegresse-Citroen half-tracks (the P.17, P.19, P.107, and MCG variants) were used primarily for towing artillery, although a small number of closed-top half-track armoured cars (the P.16) were also in service. The P.7.T had been an earlier Kegresse model, built between 1925 and 1927. The French, who had created the first self-propelled anti-aircraft gun-truck back in 1913, would continue through the interwar period experimenting with various truck-mounted AA weapons like those shown in this model.

Media

The Shooting Range #141 - Metal Beasts section at 00:39 discusses the P.7.T AA.

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Other	AMX-10P