Ta 152 C-3

This page is about the German fighter Ta 152 C-3. For the other version, see Ta 152 H-1.

Ta 152 C-3

Ta 152 H-1

He 162 A-2

Ta 152 C-3

Ta 152 H-1

He 162 A-2

Germany

IV Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
6.3	6.3	6.0

Class:

Fighter

Interceptor

Research:35 000

Purchase:210 000

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Description

The Ta 152 C-3 is a rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/RB) and 6.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.57 "Battle March".

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the Fw 190 D-13. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second, is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the B-29 Superfortress. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do such thing unless the situation is just right).

General info

Flight performance

Max speed

at 10 400 m730 km/h

Turn time27 s

Max altitude13 500 m

EngineDaimler-Benz DB-603LA

TypeInline

Cooling systemWater

Take-off weight6 t

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	703	681	13500	28.2	29.2	9.7	9.7	500
Upgraded	759	730		25.8	27.0	17.1	13.1

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear
✓	✓	✓	X	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
0	310	700	450	310	~10	~5

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 420	< 240	< 500	> 290

Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude	100% Engine power	WEP Engine power
8,990 m	1,750 hp	1,921 hp

Survivability and armor

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear310 km/h

• 15 mm Steel - Engine cowl armor
• 5 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armor
• 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armor plate
• 8 mm Steel - Pilot seat armor
• 5 mm Steel - Pilot seat armor
• 20 mm Steel - Head rest armor
• 10 mm Steel - Upper cowling ammunition armor
• 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel armor
• 70 mm Bulletproof glass

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB3 270 → 4 188

RB7 799 → 9 990

SB11 107 → 14 228

Total cost of modifications61 400

102 000

Talisman cost1 800

Crew training61 000

Experts210 000

Aces1 200

Research Aces570 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

120 / 250 / 510 %

178 / 178 / 178 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Fuselage repair Research: 3 100 Cost: 5 200 165 Radiator Research: 3 100 Cost: 5 200 165 Compressor Research: 6 900 Cost: 11 000 370 Wings repair Research: 3 800 Cost: 6 300 200 Engine Research: 3 800 Cost: 6 300 200 Engine injection Research: 10 000 Cost: 17 000 530	Airframe Research: 6 900 Cost: 11 000 370 Cover Research: 10 000 Cost: 17 000 530	mg15120_belt_pack Research: 3 100 Cost: 5 200 165 mk103_belt_pack Research: 3 100 Cost: 5 200 165 mg15120_new_gun Research: 3 800 Cost: 6 300 200 mk103_new_gun Research: 3 800 Cost: 6 300 200

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 130 mm MK 103 cannon

Ammunition90 rounds

Fire rate450 shots/min

Weapon 24 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon

Ammunition650 rounds

Fire rate700 shots/min

The Ta 152 C-3 is armed with:

• 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
• 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
• 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

Usage in battles

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its MK 103 (30 mm) cannon, if it is loaded with armored target rounds (HVAP), although one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, or else one wastes too many shells on a single vehicle. But for its intended role, the combination of MG 151 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

• Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else;
• Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity;
• Despite heavily armored, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets;
• Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby;
• HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo;
• 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm;
• The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended;
• When you have an enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
• Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations;

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer	Pitch	Radiator			Supercharger	Turbocharger
		Oil	Water	Type
Not controllable	Controllable Auto control available	Not controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Combined	Not controllable 1 gear	Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
• Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
• Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
• Durable and well armored, both pilot and engine are protected.
• Very effective bomber killer.
• Armor is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
• Incredibly strong at headon engagement and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
• Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
• Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
• Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
• Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
• Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
• Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
• Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

Cons:

• Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model
• Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
• Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
• Extremely high repair cost of 40k silver lions in RB.
• Poor high altitude performance.
• Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
• Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
• Stock performance is awful.
• Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
• Engine often overheats after 3500 m.

History

Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the B-29, the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet. To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H). Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for Kurt Tank, though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.

Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing. This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the Ta 152 C-3 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

Avoid them in frontal attack! discusses the Ta 152 C-3 at 1:39 - War Thunder Official Channel

Last piston fighters discusses the Ta 152 C-3 at 2:39 - War Thunder Official Channel

War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!] - Jengar

Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That! - Napalmratte

Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies - Green Fury

See also

Related development

• Focke-Wulf Fw 190
• Kurt Tank Ta 152 H-1

Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

• Lavochkin La-9
• Nakajima Ki-87
• Martin-Baker MB.5
• North American P-51
• Republic P-47
• Macchi C.205

External links

• [Wikipedia] Focke-Wulf Ta 152
• [Smithsonian] Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11

References

Focke-Wulf Aircraft Corporation (Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau Aktiengesellschaft)
Fighters	Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-5/U12 · Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 A-8
	Fw 190 C
	Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13
	Fw 190 F-8
	Ta 152 C-3* · Ta 152 H-1* · Ta 154 A-1*
Bombers	Fw 189 A-1 · Fw 200 C-1
Export	▅Fw 190 A-5
Captured	▃Fw 190 A-8 · ▂Fw 190 D-9
	* In 1944, the Germany Air Ministry changed new fighter aircraft designation to that of the chief designer. Kurt Tank was the chief designer at Focke-Wulf and later aircraft he designed were given the prefix of Ta.