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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The KV-122 is a premium soviet Rank IV BR 5.7 heavy tank. It is a combination of the hull of the KV-1S and the turret of the IS-2
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a proposed Soviet upgrade to the [[KV-85]], designed with the intent of being able to compete with the firepower and armour of German heavy tanks near the end of World War II. The idea was to equip the existing KV-85s with copies of the turret and gun of the [[IS-2]]. By doing so, the tank would be able to engage German heavy tanks with high effectiveness despite their thick armour. However, the {{Specs|name}} project never progressed beyond a single prototype due to a combination of various factors. Firstly, the Soviet Union had already shifted its focus towards more capable tanks like the IS-2. Secondly, it was deemed unnecessary to recover the relatively small number of KV-85s on the frontlines, upgrade them, and then re-deploy them into combat. And finally, the Soviet Union faced too many logistical challenges to support the production and deployment of the {{Specs|name}} tanks. These challenges included limited resources (caused by a lot of KV-85s being lost), difficulties in transporting the heavy tanks, and a shortage of skilled personnel to operate and maintain them, as those were focused on more advanced tanks.
 
 
 
The {{Specs|name}} was introduced in [[Update 1.63 "Desert Hunters"]]. The turret and gun, which are copies of those found on IS-2, are two of its most obvious differences that set it apart from [[KV-1 (Family)|previous models]]. A less noticeable difference is the engine, which was replaced with a V-2IS capable of producing 520 hp as opposed to the V-2K found on most KV variants, which is capable of producing 600 hp. Overall, it plays like an IS-2 with the convenience of a lower battle rating.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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The armor of the tank at it's BR is poor as compared to its lower tier brother the IS-1 which is packing 120 mm of frontal armor. The KV-122 is packing 75, the same as the KV-1. Unlike the IS-1 and IS-2, the KV-122 does not feature the prominent nose that prevents angling allowing a skilled user to angle their armor far above the base value of 75, combined with its 60 mm of side armor and its ability to tank shots while angled is high.
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The armour of the tank at its BR is poor as compared to its lower tier brother the IS-1 which is packing 120 mm of frontal armour. The KV-122 is packing 75, the same as the KV-1. Unlike the IS-1 and IS-2, the KV-122 does not feature the prominent nose that prevents angling allowing a skilled user to angle their armour far above the base value of 75, combined with its 60 mm of side armour and its ability to tank shots while angled is high.
 
 
 
'''Armour type:'''
 
 
 
* Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull, Turret roof, Gun mantlet)
 
* Cast homogeneous armour (Turret, Cupola)
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
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! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || 75 mm (30°) ''Front plate'' <br> 75 mm (70°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 25 mm (25-70°) ''Joint plate'' <br> 75 mm (26-75°) ''Lower glacis'' || 60 mm <br> 40 mm ''Turret ring guard'' || 40 mm (26-79°) ''Top'' <br> 75 mm (6-73°) ''Bottom'' || 40 mm <br> 30 mm ''Ports and engine grille''
 
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| Turret || 100 mm (0-72°) ''Turret front'' <br> 100 mm (2-58°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 100 mm (9-20°) || 100 mm (13-32°) || 30 mm <br> 35 mm ''Hatches''
 
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| Cupola || 82 mm || 82 mm || 82 mm || 35 mm
 
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|}
 
'''Notes:'''
 
 
 
* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick, tracks are 30 mm thick.
 
* There is a 45 mm thick frame around the gun mantlet. Shots on the border of the mantlet may have this 45 mm be added into the armour calculation.
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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Mobility wise the KV-122 is no speed demon, much like the previous KV series of tanks. The KV-122 is slow and sluggish especially when compared to the faster IS-2.
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Mobility wise, the {{PAGENAME}} is no speed demon, much like the previous KV series of tanks. But for a heavy tank of its size and weight, the KV-122 has a decent on-road speed of around 40 km/h, allowing to keep up with some medium tanks. It also has a pretty fast reverse speed of -14 km/h, meaning it can quickly retreat to safety if the player misses a shot or gets hit.
 
 
 
However, the {{PAGENAME}} becomes quite sluggish and struggles to drive on muddy, snowy or sandy surfaces, giving it a very poor off-road mobility. Moreover, the poor power to weight ratio makes it more sluggish to move around on a slope, or to accelerate on road. It is also bad at traversing the hull, the tracks are long and quite narrow, making the hull to turn really slow, therefore a short forward/backward acceleration is often needed to quickly turn the hull. The KV-122 feels slow especially when compared to the faster [[IS-2]].
 
 
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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The KV-122 packs the same 122 mm gun as the IS-2. Thus suffers the same advantages and draw backs as her sister vehicle. This being the acceptable penetration and the nearly guaranteed one shot potential of the 122. The draw backs being the same as well, mainly being the 20 second on average downtime between each shot causing you to be incredibly vulnerable should you miss your first shot. The ammunition types are the same as the IS-2 and as a result your load out should be the same. Your base shell is strong and you should carry it primarily for the most part you should not struggle to pen most targest from 4.7-5.7, at 6.7 or higher you might want to use the APHEBC which has slightly higher penetration.
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{{main|D-25T (122 mm)}}
 
  
The KV-122 packs the same 122 mm gun as the IS-2, thus suffers the same advantages and draw backs as her sister vehicle. The advantage is a weapon with acceptable penetration and the nearly guaranteed one shot potential of the 122. The draw backs consist of the lengthy reload in between shots, which would leave the vehicle extremely vulnerable. The ammunition types are also the same as the IS-2 and as a result, your load out should be the same. Your default shell is strong and you should carry it primarily for the most part. The KV-122 does not need to struggle much to penetrate most targets from 4.7-5.7; but at 6.7 or higher, you might want to use the APHEBC, which has slightly higher penetration.
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=== Additional armament ===
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=== Machine guns ===
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! colspan="5" | [[D-25T (122 mm)|122 mm D-25T]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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! ''Arcade''
 
| rowspan="2" | 28 || rowspan="2" | -3°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 11.33 || 15.68 || 19.04 || 21.06 || 22.40 || rowspan="2" | 27.04 || rowspan="2" | 23.92 || rowspan="2" | 22.05 || rowspan="2" | 20.80
 
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! ''Realistic''
 
| 8.33 || 9.80 || 11.90 || 13.16 || 14.00
 
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==== Ammunition ====
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== Usage in the battle ==
{{:D-25T (122 mm)/Ammunition|BR-471, BR-471B, OF-471}}
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While this tank is classified as a heavy tank, avoid driving it towards the front lines, your armor is not as strong as your sister heavy tanks and your speed is low as well. Instead play a support role in backing up your stronger heavy tanks when tiered down, when tiered up you can get away with brawling on the front lines so long as you manage to angle your armor properly.
  
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=== Pros and cons ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! Full<br>ammo
 
! Ammo<br>part
 
! 1st<br>rack empty
 
! 2nd<br>rack empty
 
! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
! 4th<br>rack empty
 
! 5th<br>rack empty
 
! 6th<br>rack empty
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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| '''28''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles''<br />''Propellants'' || 21&nbsp;''(+7)''<br />21&nbsp;''(+7)'' || 13&nbsp;''(+15)''<br />13&nbsp;''(+15)'' || 9&nbsp;''(+19)''<br />9&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 5&nbsp;''(+23)''<br />7&nbsp;''(+21)''|| 3&nbsp;''(+25)''<br />3&nbsp;''(+25)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+27)''<br />1&nbsp;''(+27)'' || No
 
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'''Note''':
 
  
* Turret minimum: 13&nbsp;''(+15)'' shells.
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'''Pros:'''
  
=== Machine guns ===
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Strong Main Armament
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{{main|DT (7.62 mm)}}
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
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! colspan="5" | [[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]]
 
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 
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| Coaxial || 1,890 (63) || 600 || N/A || N/A
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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While this tank is classified as a heavy tank, avoid driving it towards the front lines as the armour is not as strong as your sister heavy tanks and your speed is low as well. Instead, play a support role in backing up your stronger heavy tanks when down-tiered; when up-tiered, you can get away with brawling on the front lines so long as you manage to angle your armour properly.
 
 
 
However, most tanks at the battle rating and above can deal with the KV-122 easily due to the relatively low sloping of the frontal armour. Tanks below BR 6.0 may be more lenient, although it is unlikely. but tanks with high-velocity anti-tank weapons such as the [[M1 (76 mm)|76 mm gun]] in the U.S., [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|17-pounder]] in the British, and the [[KwK40 L48 (75 mm)|75 mm KwK40 L48]] in the Germans should be taken with caution.
 
[[File:Wsp volumetric shell diagram.png|thumb|Differences between non-volumetric shells and volumetric shells hitting a Tiger I]]
 
An important note when engaging tanks, especially Tiger Is, is that, with the implementation of volumetric shells, you can no longer expect your shells to pierce through small openings or right past an obstacle. The large 122 mm calibre of your shells will result in it catching on an armour plate's edge very often, losing all of its penetration. For example, a Tiger I has some edges that can absorb your shell unexpectedly, despite having flat armour. Thus you must always make sure that where you are aiming at is absolutely free of obstruction, or it may result in a non-penetration or a ricochet. This can be seen in the diagram to the right.
 
  
=== Pros and cons ===
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Easy to angle front armor. (No Shot trap like the IS-1 or 2)
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'''Pros:'''
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Same 122mm as the IS-2
  
* Excellent firepower with nearly unmatched destructive potential
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* High penetration allows it to easily kill higher BR tanks (e.g. [[Jagdpanther]], early [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]])
 
* Considerably good speed for a heavy tank: around 40 km/h on road
 
* Easy to angle front armour (no shot trap like the [[IS-1]] or 2)
 
* Good reverse speed allows it to retreat quickly
 
* Turret armour can sometimes bounce/absorb shells
 
* Side armour is quite thick, allowing "side scraping"
 
* Has a low profile for a heavy tank
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Very low rate of fire demanding every shot to count
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Slow reload rate (Same as the IS-2)
* Inadequate frontal and overall armour for a heavy tank
 
* Cramped interior often leads to all crew getting knocked out with one shot
 
* Sluggish compared to the IS series
 
* Extremely poor gun depression
 
* Slow turret traverse speed
 
  
== History ==
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Less frontal armor overall
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It was 1944, the end of World War II felt close, yet there were many kilometres on the way into Germany. The Soviet forces were amidst a complete counteroffensive into previously German-controlled countries in Eastern Europe. The Axis forces were on a full defensive retreat.
 
  
The battles, however, only seemed more ferocious. Bigger and better-armed heavier tanks like the IS-2 were preparing, with the purpose of charging and spearheading massive assaults over city streets, farm fields, and extensive forests, where fearsome enemies like the Tiger, Ferdinand/Elefants and Panther could be encountered. The threat of heavy anti-tank emplacements such as the 8.8 cm Pak 43 and the 12.8 cm Pak 44 was also high.
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Sluggish compared to the IS series
  
One of those proposed tanks to be built was the KV-122. The tank was based on a KV-85 chassis and featured a new 122 mm D-25T gun and turret, borrowed from the IS-2. The design bureau assigned to build the single prototype was the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, lead by the engineer Abram Samuilovich Shneidman. The premise was to refit the numerously available KV chassis and extend their combat capacities. The idea proved competent for a test since it only needed a few modifications; the gun, the engine and the turret. The most important modification was with no doubt the firepower. It was a significant increase when compared to the previous KV family. This refit would deem not necessary to build a whole new tank. Instead, this modification to the existing KV-85s would have provided a remarkable update in firepower.
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Poor Gun Depression
  
Ultimately, the idea didn't progress as it was considered unnecessary to retrieve the rather small numbers of KV-85s in frontline service, upgrade them and send them back. The outdated hull armour of the KV was also considered ineffective against the highly capable German guns.
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Only a single '''KV-122''' prototype was ever built. The war efforts were instead put into the all-around stronger and powerful tank; the [[IS-2]].
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== Read also ==
* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_kv_122 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
  
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{{Youtube-gallery|FVUuGkSFA4o|'''KV-122, Soviet, Premium Tier-4, Heavy Tank''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
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== See also ==
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''ETC.''
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== Sources ==
* [[KV-1 (Family)]]
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* [[wikipedia:Kliment_Voroshilov_tank|[Wikipedia] Kliment Voroshilov tank]]
 
* [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_KV-85.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> KV-85]
 
* [https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/kv-122.htm <nowiki>[Global Security]</nowiki> KV-122 Heavy Tank]
 
 
 
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Description

The KV-122 is a premium soviet Rank IV BR 5.7 heavy tank. It is a combination of the hull of the KV-1S and the turret of the IS-2

General info

Survivability and armour

The armor of the tank at it's BR is poor as compared to its lower tier brother the IS-1 which is packing 120 mm of frontal armor. The KV-122 is packing 75, the same as the KV-1. Unlike the IS-1 and IS-2, the KV-122 does not feature the prominent nose that prevents angling allowing a skilled user to angle their armor far above the base value of 75, combined with its 60 mm of side armor and its ability to tank shots while angled is high.

Mobility

Mobility wise the KV-122 is no speed demon, much like the previous KV series of tanks. The KV-122 is slow and sluggish especially when compared to the faster IS-2.

Armaments

Main armament

The KV-122 packs the same 122 mm gun as the IS-2. Thus suffers the same advantages and draw backs as her sister vehicle. This being the acceptable penetration and the nearly guaranteed one shot potential of the 122. The draw backs being the same as well, mainly being the 20 second on average downtime between each shot causing you to be incredibly vulnerable should you miss your first shot. The ammunition types are the same as the IS-2 and as a result your load out should be the same. Your base shell is strong and you should carry it primarily for the most part you should not struggle to pen most targest from 4.7-5.7, at 6.7 or higher you might want to use the APHEBC which has slightly higher penetration.

Additional armament

Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.

Machine guns

Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.

Usage in the battle

While this tank is classified as a heavy tank, avoid driving it towards the front lines, your armor is not as strong as your sister heavy tanks and your speed is low as well. Instead play a support role in backing up your stronger heavy tanks when tiered down, when tiered up you can get away with brawling on the front lines so long as you manage to angle your armor properly.

Pros and cons

Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".

Pros:

Strong Main Armament

Easy to angle front armor. (No Shot trap like the IS-1 or 2)

Same 122mm as the IS-2

Cons:

Slow reload rate (Same as the IS-2)

Less frontal armor overall

Sluggish compared to the IS series

Poor Gun Depression

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

ETC.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.