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Being a pre-WW1 torpedo, the M1909R has the shortest range of any torpedo carried on a reserve coastal vessel (2 km), along with an average speed (61 km/h) and payload (144 kg). Suffice to say, the user will need to get as close as possible to the enemy before launching, provided 50 meters of distance is left between launcher and target for the torpedo to arm. Released by a unique animated Loire "claw" deployment system off either side of the boat, captains must take care to angle the hull so that the launchers are pointing directly at the target's path. This is unlike the VTB-14 which drops the torpedoes off the stern, requiring less angling of the hull, but increasing their travel time. It is best to use the M1909R in close-range ambushes from behind cover. Targets should mostly consist of other coastal vessels and destroyers due to the torpedo's small payload which can be entirely absorbed by battleship torpedo protection systems rated to withstand 250 kg of TNT.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 09:41, 13 October 2024

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
A-10A Thunderbolt (Early)
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GarageImage VTB-8.jpg
VTB-8
Research:Free
Purchase:Free
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Description

The VTB-8 is a rank I French motor torpedo boat with a battle rating of 1.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Dance of Dragons".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull40 mm (wood)
Superstructure15 mm (wood)
Number of section3
Displacement26 t
Crew10 people

As with all reserve torpedo boats, there is no real armour to speak of. VTB-8's 40mm thick wooden hull and 15mm thick wooden superstructure is typical of early torpedo boats and is shared with the MAS-561, PT-6, and Type T-14. The radio station and pilothouse are relatively small and set roughly amidships, which reduces the size of the target the enemy needs to hit to damage the craft's steering. The single gun mount is very small and therefore hard to disable, which will allow you to keep firing in desperate situations. If it is somehow destroyed, it won't affect your overall crew count. In total, the boat can hold ten crew members, with three in each hull section and one in the pilothouse, needing a minimum of three crew to operate.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB125 / 37 km/h
RB89 / 26 km/h

The boat is surprisingly agile, but it's primary asset is its speed. Being faster than any reserve boat other than the Russian G-5, you can beat the competition to the capture point, escape from big ships, and close the distance with the enemy as needed.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 125 37
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 89 26

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
ABfree
RBfree
Total cost of modifications3 890 Rp icon.png
177 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost190 Ge icon.png
Crew trainingfree
Experts1 000 Sl icon.png
Aces10 Ge icon.png
Research Aces80 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
10 / 10 / 100 % Sl icon.png
100 / 100 / 100 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
Mods new ship hull.png
Dry-Docking
Research:
440 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 Sl icon.png
40 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship rudder.png
Rudder Replacement
Mods new ship screw.png
Propeller Replacement
Research:
810 Rp icon.png
Cost:
35 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship engine.png
Engine Maintenance
Research:
720 Rp icon.png
Cost:
35 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods ship damage control crew.png
Damage Control Division
Mods ship fire control crew.png
Fire Division
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
Smokescreen
Research:
380 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 Sl icon.png
35 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship pumps.png
New Pumps
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7.7 mm AP belt
Research:
440 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 Sl icon.png
40 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
7_7mm_lewis_navy_incendiary_ammo_pack
Research:
380 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 Sl icon.png
35 Ge icon.png
Mods new main caliber turrets.png
Primary Armament Targeting
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Artillery Support
Research:
720 Rp icon.png
Cost:
35 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png

Armament

Primary armament

Turret2 x 7.7 mm Darne M1922 machine gun
Ammunition3600 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Darne Mle 1922 has a fairly small muzzle flash and a wide arc of fire.
Main article: Darne M1922 (7.7 mm)

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  • Universal: AP · T · AP · T
  • 7.7 mm AP belt: AP · AP · AP · T
  • 7.7 mm API belt: IT · IT · IT · IT

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
T 9 8 7 6 5 4
AP 9 9 8 6 5 5
IT 8 8 6 5 4 4
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
T 835 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
AP 830 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
IT 830 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°

Additional armament

Setup 12 x 45 cm 1909R torpedo
Main article: 1909R (450 mm)

Being a pre-WW1 torpedo, the M1909R has the shortest range of any torpedo carried on a reserve coastal vessel (2 km), along with an average speed (61 km/h) and payload (144 kg). Suffice to say, the user will need to get as close as possible to the enemy before launching, provided 50 meters of distance is left between launcher and target for the torpedo to arm. Released by a unique animated Loire "claw" deployment system off either side of the boat, captains must take care to angle the hull so that the launchers are pointing directly at the target's path. This is unlike the VTB-14 which drops the torpedoes off the stern, requiring less angling of the hull, but increasing their travel time. It is best to use the M1909R in close-range ambushes from behind cover. Targets should mostly consist of other coastal vessels and destroyers due to the torpedo's small payload which can be entirely absorbed by battleship torpedo protection systems rated to withstand 250 kg of TNT.

Usage in battles

The boat is very fast for a reserve vessel, beating out all but the sleek duralumin G-5 for top speed. This can be used to your advantage when attacking capture points or for closing the distance with your enemy - something you will need to do regularly to achieve any sort of lethality from your small calibre weapons. The tripod gun mount provides an excellent 360 degree firing arc as well as between -10 and 80 degrees of elevation for use against aircraft. Keeping this in mind, it's best to attack all targets "bow-in" to expose as little of your hull as possible. Given the wooden construction, it's not the best boat for "bow-tanking" but that is by far your best hope for survival against aware enemies. As with all belt-fed weapons, managing your reloads is key. However, with a weapon of this low calibre, you need as many bullets as possible to be ready before you hit that several second reload downtime. If you believe an engagement is coming up or lack visibility on the threats ahead, make sure to empty your magazine and get a fresh one.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Fast and agile
  • Stable gunnery platform at high speeds
  • 360° arc of fire for both guns, with very good vertical guidance
  • Good survivability for the BR
  • Small silhouette
  • Tiny steering gear is very unlikely to suffer critical damage

Cons:

  • Poor firepower
  • Limited selection of ammunition
  • Very short range of the torpedoes, making them extremely situational

History

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Media

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See also

Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the ship;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire (ACL)
Motor Torpedo Boats 
VTB-8-class  VTB-8 · VTB-9
VTB-11-class  VTB-11 · VTB-13 · VTB-14
Destroyers 
Jaguar-class  Leopard
Battleships 
Bretagne-class  Lorraine
See also  Loire Aviation

France boats
Motor torpedo boats  VTB-8 · VTB-9 · VTB-11 · VTB-14
  VLT-1 · VLT-2 · VTB-19
  MTB-96
Motor gun boats  L9059 · La Combattante · VTB-13
Gunboats  La Suprise