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== Description == | == Description == | ||
| − | The M185 is an | + | <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' --> |
| + | The M185 is an 155 mm howitzer used on the American M109 Paladin SPHs. The M185 was derived from the M126, a shorter barreled version with less muzzle velocity and effective range than the M185. The Paladin participated in many wars, varying from Vietnam to the modern Gulf War in 1991. | ||
| − | + | In-game, the M185 is mounted on the M109A1 series of Paladins in USA, Britain, and Israel (Rochev). | |
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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== General info == | == General info == | ||
| − | The M185 has a very high destructive potential. Having | + | <!-- ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.'' --> |
| + | The M185 has a very high destructive potential. Having 61 mm of penetration for the HE and HE-VT shells, direct hits to most tanks on spots near the roof will eliminate the crew. Light vehicles and open tops will be annihilated, and the HE-VT can destroy slow moving planes and helicopters with a near hit. | ||
=== Available ammunition === | === Available ammunition === | ||
| − | ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' | + | <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' --> |
| + | {{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|M107, M107 (PF), M110}} | ||
=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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The M185 works as a typical howitzer: aiming for and above roof sections as well as cupolas is a must. With a better muzzle velocity than the short-barreled M126, it is easier to aim the gun and projectiles reach the target faster. Most vehicles at the same BR as the M109A1 will be able to destroy the M109A1 in a single hit, so make the shots count, work with teammates, and make sure cover is nearby to ensure a safe reload. | The M185 works as a typical howitzer: aiming for and above roof sections as well as cupolas is a must. With a better muzzle velocity than the short-barreled M126, it is easier to aim the gun and projectiles reach the target faster. Most vehicles at the same BR as the M109A1 will be able to destroy the M109A1 in a single hit, so make the shots count, work with teammates, and make sure cover is nearby to ensure a safe reload. | ||
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'''Fighting German tanks:''' | '''Fighting German tanks:''' | ||
| − | * If fighting Panthers, shoot the lower section of the gun mantlet above the roof. Alternatively, aim for the cupola as early models of Panthers have a distinctive tall drum cupola that can easily be targeted. The Panther's sides can also be penetrated with HE, only being 40- | + | * If fighting Panthers, shoot the lower section of the gun mantlet above the roof. Alternatively, aim for the cupola as early models of Panthers have a distinctive tall drum cupola that can easily be targeted. The Panther's sides can also be penetrated with HE, only being 40-50 mm thick. |
* For the Tiger H1s, shoot the lower section of the gun mantlet right above the roof. The H1 also has the drum cupola, so aiming there will also overpressure and destroy the Tiger. For Tiger Es, shoot the gun mantlet as the cupola is quite small from the front. From the sides, shoot the cupola or turret ring. | * For the Tiger H1s, shoot the lower section of the gun mantlet right above the roof. The H1 also has the drum cupola, so aiming there will also overpressure and destroy the Tiger. For Tiger Es, shoot the gun mantlet as the cupola is quite small from the front. From the sides, shoot the cupola or turret ring. | ||
* Tiger IIs will be encountered quite commonly in an uptier. Aim for the cupola if possible or shoot right above the roof on the lower section of the mantlet. | * Tiger IIs will be encountered quite commonly in an uptier. Aim for the cupola if possible or shoot right above the roof on the lower section of the mantlet. | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * Excellent firepower, can deal with vehicles | + | * Excellent firepower, can deal with vehicles it faces with ease if aimed properly. |
| − | * Gun is still useful with some skill until | + | * Gun is still useful with some skill until the introduction of ERA/composite, more precise CAS, and better weapons. |
* Easy to aim and relatively quick muzzle velocity make sniping easy. | * Easy to aim and relatively quick muzzle velocity make sniping easy. | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | * HE will not be effective on surfaces thicker than | + | * HE will not be effective on surfaces thicker than 61 mm, heavily armored tanks will be tricky to deal with. |
* Long reload time, missing a shot can be unforgiving. | * Long reload time, missing a shot can be unforgiving. | ||
* Barrel has a very long size, can be detrimental in urban combat. | * Barrel has a very long size, can be detrimental in urban combat. | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
Latest revision as of 17:18, 29 December 2023
Contents
Description
The M185 is an 155 mm howitzer used on the American M109 Paladin SPHs. The M185 was derived from the M126, a shorter barreled version with less muzzle velocity and effective range than the M185. The Paladin participated in many wars, varying from Vietnam to the modern Gulf War in 1991.
In-game, the M185 is mounted on the M109A1 series of Paladins in USA, Britain, and Israel (Rochev).
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
The M185 has a very high destructive potential. Having 61 mm of penetration for the HE and HE-VT shells, direct hits to most tanks on spots near the roof will eliminate the crew. Light vehicles and open tops will be annihilated, and the HE-VT can destroy slow moving planes and helicopters with a near hit.
Available ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| M107 | HE | 61 | 61 | 61 | 61 | 61 | 61 |
| M107 (PF) | HE-VT | 61 | 61 | 61 | 61 | 61 | 61 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| M107 | HE | 684 | 43.1 | 0.3 | 0.1 | 9.14 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Proximity-fused shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Arming distance (m) |
Trigger radius (m) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| M107 (PF) | HE-VT | 684 | 43.1 | 0 | 0 | 300 | 3 | 9.14 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |
| Smoke shell characteristics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Screen radius (m) |
Screen deploy time (s) |
Screen hold time (s) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
| M110 | 684 | 44.63 | 21 | 5 | 30 | 50 |
Comparison with analogues
Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.
Usage in battles
The M185 works as a typical howitzer: aiming for and above roof sections as well as cupolas is a must. With a better muzzle velocity than the short-barreled M126, it is easier to aim the gun and projectiles reach the target faster. Most vehicles at the same BR as the M109A1 will be able to destroy the M109A1 in a single hit, so make the shots count, work with teammates, and make sure cover is nearby to ensure a safe reload.
When shooting, the rule of the thumb is to aim for surfaces directly above the roof, the roof itself, cupolas, or any armor thinner than 55-60mm.
Fighting German tanks:
- If fighting Panthers, shoot the lower section of the gun mantlet above the roof. Alternatively, aim for the cupola as early models of Panthers have a distinctive tall drum cupola that can easily be targeted. The Panther's sides can also be penetrated with HE, only being 40-50 mm thick.
- For the Tiger H1s, shoot the lower section of the gun mantlet right above the roof. The H1 also has the drum cupola, so aiming there will also overpressure and destroy the Tiger. For Tiger Es, shoot the gun mantlet as the cupola is quite small from the front. From the sides, shoot the cupola or turret ring.
- Tiger IIs will be encountered quite commonly in an uptier. Aim for the cupola if possible or shoot right above the roof on the lower section of the mantlet.
Fighting Soviet (USSR) tanks:
- The T-34 series of tanks have weak armor and the HE can destroy the tank from the UFP, turret ring, or the cupola.
- IS-1/2s can be hard to deal with frontally, aim for the drum cupola.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Excellent firepower, can deal with vehicles it faces with ease if aimed properly.
- Gun is still useful with some skill until the introduction of ERA/composite, more precise CAS, and better weapons.
- Easy to aim and relatively quick muzzle velocity make sniping easy.
Cons:
- HE will not be effective on surfaces thicker than 61 mm, heavily armored tanks will be tricky to deal with.
- Long reload time, missing a shot can be unforgiving.
- Barrel has a very long size, can be detrimental in urban combat.
History
Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />.
Media
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See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
- references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.
External links
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- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| USA tank cannons | |
|---|---|
| 20 mm | M139 |
| 25 mm | LW25 · M242 |
| 37 mm | M3 · M5 · M6 |
| 57 mm | M1 |
| 75 mm | M2 · M2 Howitzer · M3 · M6 · M1897A4 · XM274 |
| 76 mm | M1 · M7 · M32 · T185E1 |
| 90 mm | M3 · M3A1 · M36 · M41 · M54 · T15E1 · T15E2 · T54 · T208E9 |
| 105 mm | M4 · M68 · M68A1 · M68A1E8 · T5E1 · T5E2 · T140E2 · T140E3 · XM35 |
| 106 mm | M40A1C |
| 120 mm | M58 · M256 · T53 |
| 152 mm | M81 · M162 · XM150E5 |
| 155 mm | M185 · T7 |
| 165 mm | M135 |
| Foreign: | |
| 20 mm | Rh202 (Germany) |
| 57 mm | 6pdr OQF Mk.III (Britain) · ZIS-2 (USSR) |
| 105 mm | Sharir (Israel) |
| 120 mm | IMI MG251 (Israel) |
| Britain tank cannons | |
|---|---|
| 30 mm | L21A1 |
| 40 mm | QF 2-pounder |
| 47 mm | Ordnance QF 3-pounder |
| 57 mm | 6pdr OQF Mk.III · 6pdr OQF Mk.V |
| 75 mm | OQF Mk.V |
| 76 mm | OQF 3-inch Howitzer Mk I · OQF 3in 20cwt · QF 17-pounder |
| 77 mm | OQF Mk.II |
| 84 mm | 20pdr OQF Mk.I |
| 94 mm | 28pdr OQF · 32pdr OQF · OQF Mk.II |
| 95 mm | Howitzer, Tank No.1, Mk.I |
| 105 mm | LRF · Royal Ordnance L7A1 |
| 120 mm | Ordnance QF Tk. L1A2 · Ordnance BL Tk. L11 · L11A5 · L30A1 |
| 165 mm | ORD BL 6.5in L9A1 |
| 183 mm | QF L4A1 |
| Foreign: | |
| 25 mm | M242 (USA) |
| 37 mm | M5 (USA) · M6 (USA) |
| 75 mm | M2 (USA) · M3 (USA) |
| 84 mm | kan Strv 81 (Sweden) |
| 105 mm | Sharir (Israel) |
| 120 mm | Rh120 L/55 A1 (Germany) |
| 125 mm | 2A46M-5 (Russia) |
| 155 mm | M185 (USA) |
| South Africa | |
| 20 mm | GI-2 |
| 76 mm | GT-4 |
| 90 mm | GT-2 |
| 105 mm | GT-3 · GT-7 · GT-8 |
| 155 mm | G6 L/45 |
| Israel tank cannons | |
|---|---|
| 30 mm | Bushmaster 2 Mk.44 (USA) |
| 75 mm | SA50 L/57 (France) |
| 84 mm | 20pdr OQF Mk.I (UK) |
| 90 mm | DEFA F1 (France) · M41 (USA) |
| 100 mm | D-10T (USSR) |
| 105 mm | M-51 (France) · M68 (USA) · Sharir |
| 120 mm | IMI MG251 |
| 155 mm | M126 (USA) · M185 (USA) · Soltam M845 |
