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=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot | * 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot | ||
* 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear | * 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear | ||
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | ||
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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total) | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total) | ||
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
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* Without load | * Without load | ||
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total) | * 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total) | ||
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* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets | * 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets | ||
| − | The ordnance of the | + | The ordnance of the '''''{{PAGENAME}}'''''gives it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits its manoeuvrability greatly and should generally not be used in Air RB except as a late game last resort. In mixed battles, the SNEB rockets can be an excellent anti-tank weapon for CAS, and the aircraft inserts well in the French BR 8.3 line-up. |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | The | + | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic. |
Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and manoeuvrability parameters. | Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and manoeuvrability parameters. | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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* Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon) | * Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon) | ||
* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed | * High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed | ||
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* Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft | * Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft | ||
* Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors | * Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
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Revision as of 00:45, 8 February 2020
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Contents
| This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.452 IIC. For the other version, see M.D.452 IIA. |
Description
The M.D.452 Mystere IIC pre-production is a rank V French jet fighter
with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".
General info
Flight performance
The MD.452 IIC is something of a jack of all trades. Its flight performance is balanced, if a bit slow to accelerate. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the aircraft many options for evasive manoeuvres, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good against most enemies. The two fast-firing 30 mm DEFA canons also compose tremendous firepower, if used with suitable ammunition.
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - at sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 1,035 | 1,027 | 13000 | 26.3 | 26.9 | 32.9 | 31.1 | 800 |
| Upgraded | ___ | 1,044 | __._ | 24.8 | __._ | 40.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 650 | ___ | 450 | ~11 | ~5 | ||
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 620 | < 700 | < 740 | N/A |
Survivability and armour
- 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
- 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
- 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot
Armaments
Offensive armament
The M.D.452 IIC is armed with:
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just behind the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire together until empty.
This aircraft is the first of the French jets to use 30 mm DEFA canons, which are (as of Update 1.95) the best 30 mm guns in the game, with the highest shell velocity, rate of fire, and gun reliability. While the default ammunition is underwhelming, the "air targets" ammunition will shred enemy fighters with a single or a couple of shells. Heavier targets might need 3-5 hits to loose a wing.
Suspended armament
The M.D.452 IIC can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
- 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
- 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
The ordnance of the M.D.452 IICgives it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits its manoeuvrability greatly and should generally not be used in Air RB except as a late game last resort. In mixed battles, the SNEB rockets can be an excellent anti-tank weapon for CAS, and the aircraft inserts well in the French BR 8.3 line-up.
Usage in battles
The M.D.452 IIC is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic.
Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and manoeuvrability parameters.
Modules
| Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| I | Fuselage repair | Offensive 30 mm | |||
| II | New boosters | Compressor | Airframe | SBC-17 | |
| III | Wings repair | Engine | New 30 mm cannons | LBC-25 | |
| IV | G-suit | Cover | Matra SNEB | ||
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
- High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
- Good turn rate between 550 kph and 800 kph
- Decent climb rate
- Payloads can include bombs or rockets
- More effective air brake than its predecessors
- A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
- Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
- DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 1 to 3 HE rounds striking
Cons:
- Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft
- Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
- Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult, forcing a return to base for repairs
History
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Media
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See also
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- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
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- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
- other literature.
Template:AirManufacturer Bloch
| France jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
| ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
| Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
| Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
| Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
| Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
| Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV | |
| Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |
| Belgium | ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM |
| Netherlands | ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6 |
