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{{Specs-Card|code=sb_2m_105}}
 
 
{{About
 
{{About
| about = Russian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| about = Soviet bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other uses
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| usage = other variants
 
| link = SB 2M (Family)
 
| link = SB 2M (Family)
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a sole prototype of an attempt to upgrade the then obsolete SB series bombers. The plane was powered by two Klimov M-105 engines, had redesigned wing that reduced the area and wingspan. The wing itself was later incorporated into Arkhangelskii Ar-2 dive bomber
  
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left|]]
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The SB 2M-105 has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. For its size, the SB features a decent payload options of up to three 500 kg bombs or a mixed loadout of two 250 kg and six 100 kg bombs. The manoeuvrability of the SB is also very impressive, allowing it to dogfight with less agile enemy fighters and damaging them utilizing the front mounted twin ShKAS machine guns. However the rear hemisphere protection is rather weak with just single ShKAS machine gun in a dorsal turret and single ShKAS in a ventral turret.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
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The SB 2M-105 is a fairly manoeuvrable bomber (like its successor, the [[Ar-2]]), but with one caveat: the low optimal airspeed of 185 km/h for the elevator. This means that at speeds above 400 km/h, the aircraft becomes extremely sluggish in the pitch axis, which can be dangerous in a steep dive.
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,700 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
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! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
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|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
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! Stock
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| 450 || 439 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.7 || 22.2 || 10.0 || 10.0 || rowspan="2" | 366
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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! Upgraded
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| 486 || 466 || 20.8 || 21.0 || 15.9 || 12.7
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
 
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
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! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
====Details====
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==== Details ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
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|-
! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
! Take-off flap
 
! Landing flap
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
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|-
| X || X || X || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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| || || || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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|-
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
! -
 
 
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} || ??? || ~?? || ~?
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| 600 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 315 || 309 || 280 || ~6 || ~4
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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|-
| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
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| < 280 || < 300 || < 185 || > 350
 
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|}
 
|}
  
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
 
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! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| ?,??? m || ??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
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! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|- -->
 
|}
 
  
=== Survivability and armour ===
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{Specs-Economy}}
* No armour plating
 
* No armour glazing
 
* Critical components located at the front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
 
* More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
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=== Suspended armament ===
{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
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{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
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{{main|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500sv (500 kg)}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (600 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs + 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (1,100 kg total)
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* 4 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
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* 1 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb (500 kg total)
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* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bombs + 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (1,500 kg total)
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* 3 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bombs (1,500 kg total)
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* 1 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb + 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
  
* 4 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine guns (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
 
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''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''-->
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;''Main article:&nbsp;'''[[:Category:Suspended armaments|Bombs]]'''''-->
 
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.''
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{{Specs-Avia-Defensive}}
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<!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' -->
== Usage in the battles ==
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{{main|ShKAS (7.62 mm)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
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* 2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, nose turret (960 rpg = 1,920 total)
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* 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,920 rpg)
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* 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)
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== Usage in battles ==
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'''Arcade Battles:'''
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This bomber is quite fast for its BR so you should use this as an advantage. For example, you should climb directly at the beginning of the match to 5,000 m and destroy the enemy bases with setup 5 (2 x 250 kg + 2 x 500 kg) which is the heaviest payload you'll have with this plane.
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'''Realistic Battles:'''
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In Realistic battles you should use the same tactics as in Arcade battles. Note that 2 x 500 kg FAB 500 bombs are enough to destroy a base.
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'''Simulator Battles:'''
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In Sim, the overall tactic remains the same as other bombers: base/airfield bombing. However, there are several notes for this particular SB 2M bomber.
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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Maybe it's because of the design of short fuselage and huge wings, or it's caused by something else, the SB 2M is super hard to control in the pitch. If you leave the stick at the deadzone, the aircraft will automatically climb or dive which will lead to a crash if unnoticed. Trimming doesn't help. For the gunner view, even though you might have the "autopilot when in gunner view" enabled, it won't help either, as it will still continuously pitch up and down like a boat. Also note that when switching to gunner view, it will sometimes uncontrollably roll to one side which will make it enter a spin quickly. Therefore this bomber is extremely frustrating to fly in Sim.
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Note: the setup with the most explosive mass is the 2x 250 kg + 2x 500 kg, but this way the two 500 kg bombs are carried under the wing roots and the two 250 kg inside the bomb bay. So if you use the default keybind (space) to open bomb bay and drop bombs, the timing will get messed up when bombing a base, since the two wing-mounted bombs will go first, then the bomb bay opens, dropping the two inside. The time between the two drops are long enough for one drop to completely miss the target. To avoid this, set up a keybind for open / close bomb bay, and drop bomb series (all bombs go at once). When approaching a base, open the bomb bay first, then drop all the bombs, they will now all hit the target.
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When bombing airfields, make sure to fly above 2,000 m to avoid the anti-aircraft artillery, as this plane is unprotected and its coolers will often get damaged, leading to the engines overheating. You should familiarise each module of the airfield to maximise the damage. The airstrip is the most visible and the easiest one to hit, however bombing it seems to halve your reward. So it is recommended to bomb everything else: hangar, fuel area, living quarters, etc. The plane hangars are probably easy, since they aren't too small.
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Given its huge wings compared to the rather skinny fuselage, it can be tricky to land as it will bounce off the ground and leap into the air again and again, no matter how slow it seems to fly. The trick is to slow it down more than any other twin-engine plane, plus set up key binds for "flaps down" and "flaps up" to replace the default "toggle flaps". This way you can use the wanted flap anytime. When approaching the airfield, make sure to descend to around 400 m when you are approximately 2 km away from the start of the runway. This is an appropriate distance to decelerate. As the airstrip occupies 1/3 of your windscreen, reduce speed to approximately 220 km/h, deploy combat flaps and cancel out that extra lift by pitching down. When you are almost touching down, reduce speed to no more than 160 km/h (seems dangerously slow but it can still glide safely), deploy landing gear, take-off flaps and pitch down even more so the SB 2M remains overall parallel to the ground. At the last second before touch down, make sure you are around 130 km/h and deploy landing flaps. This way the bomber can land gently and softly, and will not bounce off. At last, do not constantly hold the brake. Release brake immediately once the nose starts to dip down to avoid propeller strike.
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'''Against the SB 2M (all modes but mostly in sim):'''
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You should be very careful against bombers since with the Sim control (whether it be mouse joystick or a real stick) the plane will manoeuvre much more gently, making yourself a great target for the bomber's gunners. DO NOT follow behind the SB 2M's six unless you are sure that its tail gunners are unconscious. Chasing behind the SB 2M makes yourself pretty much stationary for the tail gunners, and you will be showered with 7.62 mm bullets.
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If your plane is an early biplane armed with weak machine gun (2-4 x 7.7 mm or below), you should use deflection shots. That is, imagine yourself as an anti-air missile, predict where you two will meet and fly towards that point. This way it gives the gunners little window to open fire at you. When firing, try to aim for the cockpit for a possible pilot-snipe, as the pilot is very unprotected or aim at its engines to damage it or the cooler. Without an engine the SB 2M won't fly far.
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If you are flying an interceptor/heavy fighter that is heavily armed and armoured, you can just sit behind the SB 2M and confidently take out its crew/modules one by one, as its 7.62 mm machine gun has rather weak penetration and damage. This is the most precise way of damaging an aircraft, however, the safest tactic is still and will always be deflection shooting. One accurate burst will critically damage the weak airframe of the SB 2M, or snap off its wing straight away.
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
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|-
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
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|-
! Oil
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
! Water
 
! Type  
 
 
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|-
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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| Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Controllable<br>2 gears || Not controllable
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===Modules===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
!colspan = "1"| Tier
 
!colspan = "2"| Flight performance
 
!colspan = "1"| Survivability
 
!colspan = "2"| Weaponry
 
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| I
 
| Fuselage Repair
 
| Radiator
 
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|
 
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| II
 
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| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
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| III
 
| Wings Repair
 
| Engine
 
|
 
|
 
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| IV
 
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| Engine Injection
 
| Cover
 
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|-
 
|}
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Adequate speed for a bomber, allowing it to get to targets quickly
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* Great turn rate allows it to change direction quickly, or to even dodge attacks
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* Nice payload allows it to finish off a base in one go, or destroy tanks / pillboxes easily
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* Great defensive firepower at the tail (2 x 7.62 mm MGs) with fast rate of fire, good trajectory and plenty of ammo allows it to deal with enemies on its six effectively
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Defensive guns don't cover the belly and the sides well, and are quite light against fighters such as [[Bf 109 E-1]] or [[Ki-61 (Family)|Ki-61]]
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* Crew and important parts (e.g. fuel tank, engines, coolers) lack protection, increasing the chance of being pilot-sniped or critically damaged. Combined with its weak airframe, it is vulnerable to heavy fighters like [[Ju 88 (Family)|Ju 88]]
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* In Simulator, it is extremely hard to control. No matter how precisely you trim, it will always automatically pitch up and down. Also when switching to gunner view, it will roll, causing a death spin
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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=== In-game description ===
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"In the autumn of 1940, the SB-2M-105 variant was launched into full-scale production, equipped with 1,100 hp Klimov M-105 twelve-cylinder, V-shaped, water-cooled engines and VISh-22Ye propellers.
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{{Navigation-Start|{{Annotation|Archive of the in-game description|An archive of the historical description of the vehicle that was presented in-game prior to Update 1.55 'Royal Armour'}}|expand=true}}
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In the autumn of 1940, the SB 2M-105 variant was launched into full-scale production, equipped with 1,100 hp Klimov M-105 twelve-cylinder, V-shaped, water-cooled engines and VISh-22Ye propellers.
  
 
Planes of this modification were equipped with MV-3 turrets and LU hatch mounts, and they included all of the improvements which had been applied to machines of previous variants, now implemented to the fullest extent. In particular, landing headlights and cradles for the retractable ski landing gear were mounted.
 
Planes of this modification were equipped with MV-3 turrets and LU hatch mounts, and they included all of the improvements which had been applied to machines of previous variants, now implemented to the fullest extent. In particular, landing headlights and cradles for the retractable ski landing gear were mounted.
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In addition to the USSR, SB bombers were in service with Spain, China, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Germany, Slovakia, and Finland.
 
In addition to the USSR, SB bombers were in service with Spain, China, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Germany, Slovakia, and Finland.
  
After their combat debut in Spain, SBs came to be used in China from February 1938 onward. Bombers of this type participated in the Battles of Lake Khasan and Khalkhyn Gol. They were used in combat operations against Poland in September 1939 and in the war with Finland in the winter of 1939-40. When World War II began, the SB was the most popular Soviet bomber. They were extensively operated as day and night bombers, as well as scout planes, on the Soviet-German front until late 1943. They took part in the war with Japan in the Far East in August 1945.
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After their combat debut in Spain, SBs came to be used in China from February 1938 onward. Bombers of this type participated in the Battles of Lake Khasan and Khalkhin Gol. They were used in combat operations against Poland in September 1939 and in the war with Finland in the winter of 1939-40. When World War II began, the SB was the most popular Soviet bomber. They were extensively operated as day and night bombers, as well as scout planes, on the Soviet-German front until late 1943. They took part in the war with Japan in the Far East in August 1945.
  
 
The Chinese Air Force used SBs until the end of World War II, as well as during the course of China's Civil War. Czechoslovakian B.71 planes were obtained by Germans and used as auxiliary and training vehicles. Bulgarian planes participated in the invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941.
 
The Chinese Air Force used SBs until the end of World War II, as well as during the course of China's Civil War. Czechoslovakian B.71 planes were obtained by Germans and used as auxiliary and training vehicles. Bulgarian planes participated in the invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941.
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The Finns had about 20 captured SB bombers of various versions, mainly SB 2M-103s, which they used as scouts and anti-submarine warfare patrol aircraft.
 
The Finns had about 20 captured SB bombers of various versions, mainly SB 2M-103s, which they used as scouts and anti-submarine warfare patrol aircraft.
  
The SB aircraft were withdrawn from service with the USSR in 1946."
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The SB aircraft were withdrawn from service with the USSR in 1946.
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{{Navigation-End}}
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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{{Youtube-gallery|1R9OL0Hf-yw|'''The Shooting Range #33''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 03:10 discusses the SB 2M.}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
 
;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
* Martin [[B-10B|B-10]]
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* Ilyushin [[DB-3B]]
* Martin [[Martin 139WC|139WC]]
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* Bristol [[Blenheim Mk IV]]
* Fiat [[BR.20 DR|BR.20]]
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* Mitsubishi [[Ki-21-Ia]]
* Martin [[Martin 167-A3|167]] Maryland
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* [[Martin 167-A3]] Maryland
* Mitsubishi [[Ki-21-Ia|Ki-21]]
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* Heinkel [[He 111 H-3|He 111]]
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Latest revision as of 16:28, 27 May 2024

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This page is about the Soviet bomber SB 2M-105. For other variants, see SB 2M (Family).
SB 2M-105
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SB 2M-105
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Description

The SB 2M-105 was a sole prototype of an attempt to upgrade the then obsolete SB series bombers. The plane was powered by two Klimov M-105 engines, had redesigned wing that reduced the area and wingspan. The wing itself was later incorporated into Arkhangelskii Ar-2 dive bomber

The SB 2M-105 has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. For its size, the SB features a decent payload options of up to three 500 kg bombs or a mixed loadout of two 250 kg and six 100 kg bombs. The manoeuvrability of the SB is also very impressive, allowing it to dogfight with less agile enemy fighters and damaging them utilizing the front mounted twin ShKAS machine guns. However the rear hemisphere protection is rather weak with just single ShKAS machine gun in a dorsal turret and single ShKAS in a ventral turret.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 4 700 m466 km/h
Turn time21 s
Max altitude10 000 m
Engine2 х Klimov VK-105R
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight8 t

The SB 2M-105 is a fairly manoeuvrable bomber (like its successor, the Ar-2), but with one caveat: the low optimal airspeed of 185 km/h for the elevator. This means that at speeds above 400 km/h, the aircraft becomes extremely sluggish in the pitch axis, which can be dangerous in a steep dive.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 4,700 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 450 439 10000 21.7 22.2 10.0 10.0 366
Upgraded 486 466 20.8 21.0 15.9 12.7

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
600 350 315 309 280 ~6 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 280 < 300 < 185 > 350

Survivability and armour

Crew4 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear350 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB347 → 464 Sl icon.png
RB580 → 776 Sl icon.png
SB871 → 1 165 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications5 970 Rp icon.png
4 500 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces80 Ge icon.png
Research Aces135 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 50 / 100 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
450 Rp icon.png
Cost:
340 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
450 Rp icon.png
Cost:
340 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
shkas_turret_belt_pack
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Der-33
Research:
450 Rp icon.png
Cost:
340 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods turret gun.png
shkas_turret_new_gun
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Der-19
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Suspended armament

List of setups (8)
Setup 16 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bomb
Setup 22 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bomb
Setup 32 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bomb
6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bomb
Setup 42 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bomb
2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bomb
Setup 51 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb
Setup 62 x 500 kg FAB-500sv (welded) bomb
2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bomb
Setup 72 x 500 kg FAB-500sv (welded) bomb
1 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb
Setup 82 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bomb
1 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb

The SB 2M-105 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (600 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs + 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (1,100 kg total)
  • 4 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb (500 kg total)
  • 2 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bombs + 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (1,500 kg total)
  • 3 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bombs (1,500 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg FAB-500sv bomb + 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)

Defensive armament

Turret2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun
Ammunition1920 rounds
Fire rate1800 shots/min
Turret7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun
Ammunition500 rounds
Fire rate1800 shots/min
Turret7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun
Ammunition1920 rounds
Fire rate1800 shots/min
Main article: ShKAS (7.62 mm)

The SB 2M-105 is defended by:

  • 2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, nose turret (960 rpg = 1,920 total)
  • 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,920 rpg)
  • 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)

Usage in battles

Arcade Battles:

This bomber is quite fast for its BR so you should use this as an advantage. For example, you should climb directly at the beginning of the match to 5,000 m and destroy the enemy bases with setup 5 (2 x 250 kg + 2 x 500 kg) which is the heaviest payload you'll have with this plane.

Realistic Battles:

In Realistic battles you should use the same tactics as in Arcade battles. Note that 2 x 500 kg FAB 500 bombs are enough to destroy a base.

Simulator Battles:

In Sim, the overall tactic remains the same as other bombers: base/airfield bombing. However, there are several notes for this particular SB 2M bomber.

Maybe it's because of the design of short fuselage and huge wings, or it's caused by something else, the SB 2M is super hard to control in the pitch. If you leave the stick at the deadzone, the aircraft will automatically climb or dive which will lead to a crash if unnoticed. Trimming doesn't help. For the gunner view, even though you might have the "autopilot when in gunner view" enabled, it won't help either, as it will still continuously pitch up and down like a boat. Also note that when switching to gunner view, it will sometimes uncontrollably roll to one side which will make it enter a spin quickly. Therefore this bomber is extremely frustrating to fly in Sim.

Note: the setup with the most explosive mass is the 2x 250 kg + 2x 500 kg, but this way the two 500 kg bombs are carried under the wing roots and the two 250 kg inside the bomb bay. So if you use the default keybind (space) to open bomb bay and drop bombs, the timing will get messed up when bombing a base, since the two wing-mounted bombs will go first, then the bomb bay opens, dropping the two inside. The time between the two drops are long enough for one drop to completely miss the target. To avoid this, set up a keybind for open / close bomb bay, and drop bomb series (all bombs go at once). When approaching a base, open the bomb bay first, then drop all the bombs, they will now all hit the target.

When bombing airfields, make sure to fly above 2,000 m to avoid the anti-aircraft artillery, as this plane is unprotected and its coolers will often get damaged, leading to the engines overheating. You should familiarise each module of the airfield to maximise the damage. The airstrip is the most visible and the easiest one to hit, however bombing it seems to halve your reward. So it is recommended to bomb everything else: hangar, fuel area, living quarters, etc. The plane hangars are probably easy, since they aren't too small.

Given its huge wings compared to the rather skinny fuselage, it can be tricky to land as it will bounce off the ground and leap into the air again and again, no matter how slow it seems to fly. The trick is to slow it down more than any other twin-engine plane, plus set up key binds for "flaps down" and "flaps up" to replace the default "toggle flaps". This way you can use the wanted flap anytime. When approaching the airfield, make sure to descend to around 400 m when you are approximately 2 km away from the start of the runway. This is an appropriate distance to decelerate. As the airstrip occupies 1/3 of your windscreen, reduce speed to approximately 220 km/h, deploy combat flaps and cancel out that extra lift by pitching down. When you are almost touching down, reduce speed to no more than 160 km/h (seems dangerously slow but it can still glide safely), deploy landing gear, take-off flaps and pitch down even more so the SB 2M remains overall parallel to the ground. At the last second before touch down, make sure you are around 130 km/h and deploy landing flaps. This way the bomber can land gently and softly, and will not bounce off. At last, do not constantly hold the brake. Release brake immediately once the nose starts to dip down to avoid propeller strike.

Against the SB 2M (all modes but mostly in sim):

You should be very careful against bombers since with the Sim control (whether it be mouse joystick or a real stick) the plane will manoeuvre much more gently, making yourself a great target for the bomber's gunners. DO NOT follow behind the SB 2M's six unless you are sure that its tail gunners are unconscious. Chasing behind the SB 2M makes yourself pretty much stationary for the tail gunners, and you will be showered with 7.62 mm bullets.

If your plane is an early biplane armed with weak machine gun (2-4 x 7.7 mm or below), you should use deflection shots. That is, imagine yourself as an anti-air missile, predict where you two will meet and fly towards that point. This way it gives the gunners little window to open fire at you. When firing, try to aim for the cockpit for a possible pilot-snipe, as the pilot is very unprotected or aim at its engines to damage it or the cooler. Without an engine the SB 2M won't fly far.

If you are flying an interceptor/heavy fighter that is heavily armed and armoured, you can just sit behind the SB 2M and confidently take out its crew/modules one by one, as its 7.62 mm machine gun has rather weak penetration and damage. This is the most precise way of damaging an aircraft, however, the safest tactic is still and will always be deflection shooting. One accurate burst will critically damage the weak airframe of the SB 2M, or snap off its wing straight away.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Combined Controllable
2 gears
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Adequate speed for a bomber, allowing it to get to targets quickly
  • Great turn rate allows it to change direction quickly, or to even dodge attacks
  • Nice payload allows it to finish off a base in one go, or destroy tanks / pillboxes easily
  • Great defensive firepower at the tail (2 x 7.62 mm MGs) with fast rate of fire, good trajectory and plenty of ammo allows it to deal with enemies on its six effectively

Cons:

  • Defensive guns don't cover the belly and the sides well, and are quite light against fighters such as Bf 109 E-1 or Ki-61
  • Crew and important parts (e.g. fuel tank, engines, coolers) lack protection, increasing the chance of being pilot-sniped or critically damaged. Combined with its weak airframe, it is vulnerable to heavy fighters like Ju 88
  • In Simulator, it is extremely hard to control. No matter how precisely you trim, it will always automatically pitch up and down. Also when switching to gunner view, it will roll, causing a death spin

History


Archive of the in-game description

In the autumn of 1940, the SB 2M-105 variant was launched into full-scale production, equipped with 1,100 hp Klimov M-105 twelve-cylinder, V-shaped, water-cooled engines and VISh-22Ye propellers.

Planes of this modification were equipped with MV-3 turrets and LU hatch mounts, and they included all of the improvements which had been applied to machines of previous variants, now implemented to the fullest extent. In particular, landing headlights and cradles for the retractable ski landing gear were mounted.

Some SB 2M-105 aircraft had a new type of glazing on the pilot's cockpit's sliding canopy to improve visibility during landing and taxiing around the airfield.

A total of 6,831 SBs were produced in all versions, including about 150 SB 2M-105s, until their production ended in early 1941. The SB bomber was the first Soviet aircraft whose licensed production was organized abroad. 110 planes designated B.71 were built in Czechoslovakia.

In addition to the USSR, SB bombers were in service with Spain, China, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Germany, Slovakia, and Finland.

After their combat debut in Spain, SBs came to be used in China from February 1938 onward. Bombers of this type participated in the Battles of Lake Khasan and Khalkhin Gol. They were used in combat operations against Poland in September 1939 and in the war with Finland in the winter of 1939-40. When World War II began, the SB was the most popular Soviet bomber. They were extensively operated as day and night bombers, as well as scout planes, on the Soviet-German front until late 1943. They took part in the war with Japan in the Far East in August 1945.

The Chinese Air Force used SBs until the end of World War II, as well as during the course of China's Civil War. Czechoslovakian B.71 planes were obtained by Germans and used as auxiliary and training vehicles. Bulgarian planes participated in the invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941.

The Finns had about 20 captured SB bombers of various versions, mainly SB 2M-103s, which they used as scouts and anti-submarine warfare patrol aircraft.

The SB aircraft were withdrawn from service with the USSR in 1946.


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See also

Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

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Tupolev Design Bureau (Ту́полев Опытное конструкторское бюро)
Bombers  TB-3M-17-32 · SB 2M-100 · SB 2M-103 MV-3 · SB 2M-103 · SB 2M-103U · SB 2M-103U MV-3 · SB 2M-105
  Tu-2 · Tu-2S · Tu-2S-44 · Tu-2S-59 · Tu-4
Arkhangelsky Bomber  Ar-2*
Strike Aircraft  Tu-1
Jet Bomber  Tu-14T
Export  ␗SB 2M-103U · ␗Tu-2S-44 · ␗Tu-4
  ◔Tu-2S-59
  * While Andrei Tupolev was imprisoned, Alexander Arkhangelsky, second in command at Tupolev OKB was able to append his name to the final production series of the SB bomber.

USSR bombers
SB and Ar  SB 2M-100 · SB 2M-103 · SB 2M-103 MV-3 · SB 2M-103U · SB 2M-103U MV-3 · SB 2M-105 · Ar-2
Yer-2 (petrol)  Yer-2 (M-105) · Yer-2 (M-105) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) LU
Yer-2 (diesel)  Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (e) · Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (l)
Tu  Tu-2 · Tu-2S · Tu-2S-44 · Tu-2S-59 · Tu-4
Pe  Pe-2-1 · Pe-2-31 · Pe-2-83 · Pe-2-110 · Pe-2-205 · Pe-2-359 · Pe-8
IL  DB-3B · IL-4
Po  Po-2 · Po-2M
Other  MBR-2-M-34 · TB-3M-17-32 · Yak-4 · Be-6
Lend-Lease  ▂PBY-5A Catalina · ▂Hampden TB Mk I · ▂A-20G-30 · ▂B-25J-30