Su-17M2

From War Thunder Wiki
Revision as of 13:05, 11 March 2021 by Fockewolf612 (talk | contribs) (Usage in battles)

Jump to: navigation, search
Rank VII | Premium | Golden Eagles
Challenger DS Pack
Su-17M2
su_17m2.png
GarageImage Su-17M2.jpg
Su-17M2
AB RB SB
11.3 10.7 10.7
Research:260 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:710 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game

Description

The Su-17M2 is a rank VII Soviet strike aircraft with a battle rating of 11.3 (AB) and 10.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Ixwa Strike".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 11 000 m2 232 km/h
Turn time27 s
Max altitude19 500 m
EngineSaturn AL-21F-3
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight19 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 11,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,219 2,219 19500 27.3 27.4 164.8 164.8 850
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 630 ___ ___ ___ ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 740 < 650 < 650 N/A

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear630 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 213 → 4 707 Sl icon.png
RB8 476 → 12 417 Sl icon.png
SB9 723 → 14 244 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications234 000 Rp icon.png
372 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 000 Sl icon.png
Experts710 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
80 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
NR_30_belt_pack
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-250
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
UB-32
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
ZB-500
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
FAB-500
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
B-8M1
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
B-8M1
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods agm missile.png
Kh-23M
Research:
10 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
NR_30_new_gun
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods gunpods.png
Gun pod SPPU-22-01
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
S-24
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods agm missile.png
Kh-25
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
ns23_belt_pack
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
R-60
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods agm missile.png
Kh-29L
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: NR-30 (30 mm)

The Su-17M2 is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons, wing-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: Kh-23M, Kh-25, Kh-29L, R-60
Main articles: S-3K, S-5K, S-8KO, S-24, GSh-23-2 (23 mm)

The Su-17M2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
  • 20 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 10 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,500 kg total)
  • 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
  • 128 x S-5K rockets
  • 80 x S-8KO rockets
  • 28 x S-3K rockets
  • 6 x S-24 rockets
  • 2 x Kh-23M missiles
  • 2 x Kh-25 missiles
  • 1 x Kh-29L missile
  • 4 x R-60 missiles
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 18 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (1,800 kg total)
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 6 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 64 x S-5K rockets
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 28 x S-3K rockets
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 4 x S-24 rockets
  • 2 x R-60 missiles + 2 x Kh-23M missiles
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 2 x Kh-25 missiles
  • 4 x R-60 missiles + 1 x Kh-29L missile
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 18 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (1,800 kg total)
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 6 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 64 x S-5K rockets
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 40 x S-8KO rockets
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 28 x S-3K rockets
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 4 x S-24 rockets
  • 1 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannon + 2 x Kh-23M missiles
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 2 x Kh-25 missiles
  • 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 1 x Kh-29L missile

Usage in battles

The Su-17M2 can fulfill three roles:

Fighter:

You can use the Su-17M2 as a fighter, as it is fairly maneuverable and can be equipped with 4 x R-60 missiles. The only planes it can’t outturn are the Mirage III and the J-35. Try to side climb in a  20-25° angle and try to flank the enemy. Come from behind in a support role, try to Boom and Zoom and find enemies low on energy. Do not become slow, since you do not have flares and your best defense against missiles is to maintain a high speed.

Bomber:

The Su-17 can carry up to 8 x 500kg bombs, which is enough for 2 big bases or 4 small bases. After your bombing run, you can quickly return to base and rearm thanks to its great flight performance. Using it as a bomber is a fairly safe way to gain points, survive a long time and help your team by bleeding enemy tickets.

Multirole:

The huge amount of secondary weapons the Su-17M2 can carry allows you to play as a multirole aircraft. For example, you can take 6 x 500 kg bombs and 4 R-60 missiles. This way, you can start by bombing up to 3 Bases and then play it as a fighter.

Enemies worth noting:
  •  The Mirage IIIC and the J35D: These planes are also serious foes as they out turn everything at their BR (keep in mind that the Draken is more maneuverable than the Mirage) so dogfighting them is a death sentence. They're also able to wield deadly missiles, the Draken wields the Swedish license built AIM-9P3s known as RB24Js and the Mirage has access to the extremely effective Matra R550 Magic 1 that pulls 30 Gs and has a higher top speed than other IR guided missiles. The best thing to do against these planes is to do a zoom climb to bleed their speed since they have a lower thrust to weight ratio than you and then do oblique turns since they both bleed a ton of speed when turning and have a lower acceleration than you do. Try to not let them shoot a missile at you since you don’t have flares and will have to try to outturn it. If that happens, turn off the afterburner and pull hard.

Phantoms, particularly F-4E and EJ models: These planes are the most common enemies and targets you should not prioritize first, since you can easily outturn them. In many cases you can evade their AIM-9Js by turning in one direction first, than rolling and switching direction. If you try to turn fight them, pull out your air brakes to go below 1000 kph (620 MPH), fold out the wings and you won't have any problems. If they try to get out of the turn fight and out accelerate, you can quickly fire one of your R-60's at them, if you have them equipped.

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


USSR jet aircraft
Bereznyak-Isayev  BI
Yakovlev  Yak-15 · Yak-15P · Yak-17 · Yak-23 · Yak-28B · Yak-30D · Yak-38 · Yak-38M · Yak-141
Mikoyan-Gurevich  MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh · MiG-17 · MiG-17AS · MiG-19PT
  MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis
  MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD · MiG-27M · MiG-27K
  MiG-29 · MiG-29SMT
Lavochkin  La-174 · La-15 · La-200
Sukhoi  Su-9 · Su-11
  Su-7B · Su-7BKL · Su-7BMK · Su-17M2 · Su-17M4 · Su-22M3
  Su-24M
  Su-25 · Su-25BM · Su-25K · Su-25T · Su-25SM3 · Su-39
  Su-27 · Su-27SM
Ilyushin  IL-28 · IL-28Sh
Tupolev  Tu-14T