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Vautour IIA

Vautour IIA

AB	RB	SB
9.7	9.0	9.0

Class:

Bomber

Jet bomber

Research:160 000

Purchase:450 000

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Description

The Vautour IIA was a jet-powered attack aircraft designed by France during the 1950s. It was operated by Israel alongside the IIN variant. Armed with cannons and rockets, it was used in aerial reconnaissance duties but had the capabilities to perform Close Air Support missions thanks to its large amount of anti-ground ordnance.

Introduced in Update "Winged Lions", the Vautour IIA has very good flight performance compared to most bombers. The engines of the Vautour can beat most subsonic jets, both in top speed and acceleration. The aircraft has decent manoeuvrability for a bomber, and since it lacks any way to guide bombs precisely to its destination it's better used in low level attacks, flying close to the ground and dropping the bombs close to the target. These can be dangerous but is the most effective way to destroy enemy bases and ground units.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 0 m1 100 km/h

Turn time32 s

Max altitude15 000 m

Engine2 х SNECMA Atar 101E3

TypeJet

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight21 t

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)	AB	RB	AB	RB	Take-off run (metres)
Stock	1,093	1,091	15000	32.6	33.2	43.0	41.1	900
Upgraded	1,106	1,100	15000	31.4	32.0	62.7	52.0	900

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
✓	✓	✓	✓	X	✓

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
1,166	425	584	564	463	~7	~3

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 480	< 620	< 590	N/A

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Empty mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 101E3		2	11,000 kg		316 kg/m²
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)			Max Takeoff Weight
Weight (each)	Type		8m fuel	20m fuel	27m fuel	Max Takeoff Weight
950 kg	Axial-flow turbojet		11,974 kg	13,388 kg	14,213 kg	21,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition	100%	WEP	8m fuel	20m fuel	27m fuel	MTOW
Stationary	3,293 kgf	N/A	0.55	0.49	0.46	0.31
Optimal	3,595 kgf (1,100 km/h)	N/A	0.60	0.54	0.51	0.34

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear425 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB2 811 → 3 820

RB10 703 → 14 545

SB15 618 → 21 224

Total cost of modifications140 900

221 000

Talisman cost2 400

Crew training130 000

Experts450 000

Aces2 200

Research Aces890 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

100 / 260 / 600 %

214 / 214 / 214 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Fuselage repair Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330
Compressor Research: 6 400 Cost: 10 000 300	New boosters Research: 6 400 Cost: 10 000 300
Wings repair Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330	Engine Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330
G-suit Research: 15 000 Cost: 24 000 700

Airframe

Research:

6 400

Cost:

10 000

300

Cover

Research:

15 000

Cost:

24 000

700

aden_belt_pack Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330	Matra T10 140 Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330	250/50 G.P. Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330
	Matra T10 151 Research: 6 400 Cost: 10 000 300	360/50 G.P. Research: 6 400 Cost: 10 000 300
aden_new_gun Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330	Matra SNEB Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330	500/50 G.P. Research: 7 100 Cost: 11 000 330
	Shafrir Research: 15 000 Cost: 24 000 700

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 551 (30 mm)

The Vautour IIA (Israel) is armed with:

4 x 30 mm DEFA 551 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)

Suspended armament

The Vautour IIA (Israel) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5
100/50 kg G.P. bombs	1	1	6	1	1
250/50 kg G.P. bombs	1	1	6	1	1
360/50 kg G.P. bombs	1	1	6	1	1
500/50 kg G.P. bombs	1	1	2	1	1
SNEB type 23 rockets	19	19		19	19
T10 140 rockets	6	6		6	6
T10 151 rockets	6	6		6	6
Shafrir missiles	1	1		1	1

Default weapon presets
10 x 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total) 4 x Shafrir missiles 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets 24 x T10 140 rockets 24 x T10 151 rockets 10 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total) 10 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,600 kg total) 6 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,000 kg total)

Usage in battles

Air Arcade Battles

In Air Arcade, the Vautour may face more advanced radar and IR missiles. In this case, the best option is to use it as a bomber, climbing to more than 9,000 m and bombing bases or ground targets using the bomb reticle. It can also be used to attack distracted players as a support aircraft thanks to the 4 missiles and relatively good handling of the plane.

Air Realistic Battles

The Vautour IIA can be used in 2 ways in air RB with ease: as an interceptor and as a bomber. In bomb runs, the plane is vulnerable to enemy interceptors like MiG-21s, MiG-19s, and F-104s since these are the fastest and carry air-to-air missiles. In this scenario, pilots should try to stick with their team, to allow them to cover while returning to the airfield. The best ordnance combination in order to retain some air-to-air capabilities and destroy a full base is a loadout of 6 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs, 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs, and 2 Shafrir missiles. Once the bombs are released, turn back to the safety of your team and use the missiles to kill any distracted enemies, assist teammates, or kill any AI planes.

When used as an interceptor, stay back and behind your team. Once the fight starts and enemies are slow and distracted, launch missiles at the most dangerous targets, mainly fast planes without flares like MiG-21s, MiG-19s. Missiles have the best performance at high altitudes, where they will travel further and retain speed more easily thanks to the thinner air. The Vautour also has reasonable manoeuvrability for its size, though it will quickly lose its energy in a sustained turnfight: this can be used to intrude on dogfights, briefly get the four powerful DEFA cannons on target and fire off a short burst, and then zoom away from danger.

Simulator Battles

In Simulator, the Vautour IIA suffers from a lack of radar, radar warning receiver, countermeasures, and bomb sight, meaning that the SPAA from bases and other planes will typically have an easy time fighting you, in this cases, the best players can do is attack concentrations of ground targets with cover from allied planes.

Pros and cons

Pros:

Effective DEFA cannons with excellent damage
Wide variety of bomb and rocket payloads for ground targets
Has Shafrir missiles for possible self-defence against air targets
Decent manoeuvrability and energy retention for a bomber

Cons:

Shafrir missiles are not very manoeuvrable against fighter targets
Has no bomber sight or ballistic computer
High compression at speeds above 1,050 km/h
Guns are quite inaccurate without upgrades installed

History

The Vautour IIA was a jet bomber ordered by the French Army as a jet bomber with low level attack and the ability to operate in all weather. France and Israel worked together on defense, such as on nuclear, aviation, and research for armaments. Israel was motivated to buy the Vautour to counteract the Egyptian IL-28, purchased from the Soviet Union. A total of 30 IIAs were produced, with 25 going to Israel.^[1]

The IIA was a single-seat, long-range attack aircraft armed with cannons and bombs. It was operated by the "Knights of the Heart" squadron out of Ramat David Airbase. The Vautour was used as aerial reconnaissance during the Six-Day War, as well as later in the 1960s. They were replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk and the F4-E Phantom II. The Vautour was retired in 1972, with the "Knights of the Heart" division replacing them with the Skyhawk.

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Vautour IIA (Israel) from live.warthunder.com.

External links

References

↑ "Sud-Ouest S.O. 4050 Vautour." IAF Aircraft Inventory. Jewish Virtual Library. Accessed September 27, 2022. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/sud-ouest-s-o-4050-vautour.

*SNCA SO (Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques du sud-ouest)*
Fighters	S.O.8000 Narval
Jet Fighters	S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Jet Bombers	S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN
Export	Vautour IIA IDF/AF · Vautour IIA · Vautour IIN

Israel jet aircraft
	Kfir Canard · Kfir C.2 · Kfir C.7 · Nesher
Britain
Meteor	Meteor NF.13 · Meteor F.8
France
Vautour	Vautour IIA · Vautour IIN
Super Mystere	Sambad · Sa'ar
Mirage III	Shahak
Other	M.D.450B Ouragan · Mystere IVA
USA
F-84	F-84F
A-4	A-4H · A-4E Early (M) · A-4E · Ayit
F-4	Kurnass · Kurnass 2000
F-15	Baz · Baz Meshupar · F-15I Ra’am
F-16	Netz · F-16C Barak II · F-16D Barak II

[1] "Sud-Ouest S.O. 4050 Vautour." IAF Aircraft Inventory. Jewish Virtual Library. Accessed September 27, 2022. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/sud-ouest-s-o-4050-vautour.

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli jet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].
+The Vautour IIA was a jet-powered attack aircraft designed by France during the 1950s. It was operated by Israel alongside the IIN variant. Armed with cannons and rockets, it was used in aerial reconnaissance duties but had the capabilities to perform Close Air Support missions thanks to its large amount of anti-ground ordnance.
+Introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]], the Vautour IIA has very good flight performance compared to most bombers. The engines of the Vautour can beat most subsonic jets, both in top speed and acceleration. The aircraft has decent manoeuvrability for a bomber, and since it lacks any way to guide bombs precisely to its destination it's better used in low level attacks, flying close to the ground and dropping the bombs close to the target. These can be dangerous but is the most effective way to destroy enemy bases and ground units.
 == General info ==
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-{{main|100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)}}
-{{main|Shafrir|SNEB type 23|T10 140|T10 151}}
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
-* 10 x 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
-* 4 x Shafrir missiles
-* 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets
-* 24 x T10 140 rockets
-* 24 x T10 151 rockets
-* 10 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
-* 10 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,600 kg total)
-* 6 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,000 kg total)
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-! 100/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg)|100/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
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-! 250/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg)|250/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 6 || 1 || 1
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-! 360/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg)|360/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 6 || 1 || 1
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-! 500/50 kg G.P. bombs
+! [[500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)|500/50 kg G.P.]] bombs
 | 1 || 1 || 2 || 1 || 1
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-! SNEB type 23 rockets
+! [[SNEB type 23]] rockets
 | 19 || 19 || || 19 || 19
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-! T10 140 rockets
+! [[T10 140]] rockets
 | 6 || 6 || || 6 || 6
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-! T10 151 rockets
+! [[T10 151]] rockets
 | 6 || 6 || || 6 || 6
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-! Shafrir missiles
+! [[Shafrir]] missiles
 | 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
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+{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
+{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
+* 10 x 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
+* 4 x Shafrir missiles
+* 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets
+* 24 x T10 140 rockets
+* 24 x T10 151 rockets
+* 10 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
+* 10 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,600 kg total)
+* 6 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,000 kg total)
+{{Navigation-End}}
 == Usage in battles ==
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-'''Air Realistic Battles''' '''- Bomber'''
+'''Air Arcade Battles'''
-''The Vautour IIA can be used in 2 ways in air RB, as an interceptor and as a bomber. In bomb runs the plane is extremely vulnerable to enemy interceptors. Its most common threats are Mig 21s, Mig 19s and F-104s since this are the fastest and carry missiles that can exploit the lack of countermeasures of the Vautour IIA. In this scenarios, pilots should look at the map, and then, go to the opposite side to which the enemy airfield is pointed, since in almost all matches airfields are pointed to the left or the right. The best combination in order to retain some air to air capabilities and destroy a full base is a custom loadout of: 6 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs, 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs and 2 shafrir missiles. Once the bombs are released turn back to the safety of your team and use the missiles to kill any enemy distracted, help a teammate or kill any AI planes.''
-'''Air Realistic Battles - Interceptor'''
+In Air Arcade, the Vautour may face more advanced radar and IR missiles. In this case, the best option is to use it as a bomber, climbing to more than 9,000 m and bombing bases or ground targets using the bomb reticle. It can also be used to attack distracted players as a support aircraft thanks to the 4 missiles and relatively good handling of the plane.
-''When used as an interceptor, players can exploit their air spawn and the missiles best performance at high altitudes, stay back and behind your team. Once the fight starts and enemies are slow and distracted, launch missiles to the most dangerous targets, mainly planes without flares like Mig 21s and Mig 19s. Missiles have best performance at high altitudes, meaning that they will travel further and retain speed more easily tanks to the altitude advantage.''
+'''Air Realistic Battles'''
-'''Air Arcade Battles'''
+The Vautour IIA can be used in 2 ways in air RB with ease: as an interceptor and as a bomber. In bomb runs, the plane is vulnerable to enemy interceptors like [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21s]], [[MiG-19 (Family)|MiG-19s]], and [[F-104 (Family)|F-104s]] since these are the fastest and carry air-to-air missiles. In this scenario, pilots should try to stick with their team, to allow them to cover while returning to the airfield. The best ordnance combination in order to retain some air-to-air capabilities and destroy a full base is a loadout of 6 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs, 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs, and 2 Shafrir missiles. Once the bombs are released, turn back to the safety of your team and use the missiles to kill any distracted enemies, assist teammates, or kill any AI planes.
-''Use in AB is not recommended, because it may face BVR missiles and powerfull planes, like the F-5C, F-4F and Mig-21MF that will have a great advantage of speed and range against the vautour, however pilots best opportunities in this battles are to climb at 10.000m and use the bomb mark of arcade battles to know when to drop the bombs''
+When used as an interceptor, stay back and behind your team. Once the fight starts and enemies are slow and distracted, launch missiles at the most dangerous targets, mainly fast planes without flares like [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21s]], [[MiG-19 (Family)|MiG-19]]s. Missiles have the best performance at high altitudes, where they will travel further and retain speed more easily thanks to the thinner air. The Vautour also has reasonable manoeuvrability for its size, though it will quickly lose its energy in a sustained turnfight: this can be used to intrude on dogfights, briefly get the four powerful DEFA cannons on target and fire off a short burst, and then zoom away from danger.
 '''Simulator Battles'''
-''In SB the Vautour IIA is even less recommended, this is due to a lack of radar, bomb bay, or any sort of ballistics computer, that means that pilots would have to get really close to the bases in order to drop the bombs, wich will result in a lot of deaths to the SPAA protecting the bases, or even crashing to the ground due to lackluster vertical performance at high speeds.'' And of course, use as an interceptor is not possible, this is because the Vautour IIA lacks radar, so it would not be capable of atacking enemy aircrafts with ease.
+In Simulator, the Vautour IIA suffers from a lack of radar, radar warning receiver, countermeasures, and bomb sight, meaning that the SPAA from bases and other planes will typically have an easy time fighting you, in this cases, the best players can do is attack concentrations of ground targets with cover from allied planes.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Good DEFA cannons for fighting air targets
+* Effective DEFA cannons with excellent damage
 * Wide variety of bomb and rocket payloads for ground targets
-* Has Shafrir missiles for possible self-defense against air targets
+* Has Shafrir missiles for possible self-defence against air targets
-* Gets an air spawn like other bombers
+* Decent manoeuvrability and energy retention for a bomber
-* Decent maneuverability and energy retention for a bomber
 '''Cons:'''
-* Bomb load is pretty inadequate, may have issues destroying multiple bases
 * Shafrir missiles are not very manoeuvrable against fighter targets
 * Has no bomber sight or ballistic computer
-* High compression at speeds above 1050 KM/h
+* High compression at speeds above 1,050 km/h
-* Guns are pretty inaccurate without upgrades installed
+* Guns are quite inaccurate without upgrades installed
 == History ==
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-;'''Skins'''
+;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=so_4050_vautour_2a_israel_iaf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
-'''Videos'''
-{{Youtube-gallery|P_Mc3U9ShNE&t|"The Vautours Are Literal Trash - War Thunder" - "TheEuropeanCanadian"}} {{Youtube-gallery|1=5mGV-nI6AH8&t=88s|2="The FLYING COFFINS! Vautour IIA & Vautour IIN - Israel - War Thunder Review!" - "Jengar"
-First part of the video reviews the Vautour IIA}}
 == See also ==
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 * [[Vautour (Family)]]
-* [[Vautour IIN (Israel)|Vautour IIN]]
-* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA]]
-* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIB]]
-* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIN]]
-* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)]]
-* [[Vautour IIA IDF/AF]]
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Difference between revisions of "Vautour IIA (Israel)"

Latest revision as of 10:30, 16 August 2023

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Details

Engine performance

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Suspended armament

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links

References