Talk:15 cm Pz.W.42

15-cm-Werfergrante / Wurfgranate

I made the change to "15-cm-Werfergranate" based on German Explosive Ordnances (TM 9-1985-3, United States Government Printing Office, Washington: 1953). Since I consider this source to be substandard as far as the German language is concerned, I would be grateful for German-language sources. --Disabled#1 (talk) 00:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Did the research myself and only found "Wurfgranate" and "Wurfkörper" in German-language sources. --Disabled#1 (talk) 17:59, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi! We appreciate your interest in improving the accuracy of the wiki, but we can only reflect what is shown in the game. If you want to see any changes in the names or models of the shells/vehicles, you need to submit a bug report to the developers using this link: Gaijin.net // Issues. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation! --Shimakaze (talk) 00:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Shimakaze,

I sincerely thank you for your kind reply! As far as I know, only the abbreviation is used in-game; otherwise it would have been a mistake on my part already.

Also, I was able to confirm the use of "Wurfgranate" in official German-language documents, at least for MRLS-type Nebelwerfer.

I am not aware of any (enforced) rule on sourcing for this wiki, at least for in-game data, primary sources seem to be preferred. For German documents in particular, they are not very coherent (e.g. an official Heeresdruckverordnung uses the term "Panzerjägerkanone" for PaK). They are written in a very unusual terminology and script and are difficult to find online, especially in a machine-readable format.

To make a long story short: It is exhausting and time-consuming to do this kind of research if you try to do it properly.

For the above reasons, and since military history is not the main scope of this wiki, I will refrain from this kind of editing in the future.

--Disabled#1 (talk) 22:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi again!

May have jumped the gun and read that the in-game name is simply abbreviated, so technically it's open for interpretation how "Wgr.41 Spr" is abbreviated as, If you know the correct way to write it, please feel free to share it on the wiki. I myself can go on about the inconsistency and inaccuracies in Japanese naming schemes, but my main point was to follow the same name as the game uses for the shell/vehicle on the Wiki, which I was wrong about in this case. Regarding your comment that "Military history not being the main scope" is not true. We are happy to have historical information about the vehicles and weapons in War Thunder, especially in their history sections or Family Pages. But when it comes to the armament and gameplay of the vehicles, we only want to describe them as they are in the game.

Kind regards, --Shimakaze (talk) 22:51, 7 August 2023 (UTC)