Canon de bataille de 40 tonnes "Lorraine"

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General info

The Lorraine 40t in the garage.

The Char de bataille de 40 tonnes (40 tons battle tank), also known as the Lorraine 40t (Lorraine is both a region of France and the company that made this tank), is a Rank IV French medium tank with a battle rating of 6.7 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". Introducing tremendous firepower at its BR with its 100mm SA46 L/58 gun on a highly mobile chassis. Unfortunately, it is plagued with poor armour, which encourages a battle role more similar to that of a light tank.

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

The Lorraine is a very typical rank IV French tank as it can do massive damage to its foes without being able of taking too much itself. With that in mind, it is better to rely on speed and distance to protect it from incoming shots.

Vehicle characteristics

As said above, this is one of the best representatives of French rank IV vehicles: it has good mobility, an oscillating turret (fitted with an autoloader), sloped armour in front and back, high hull, high gun placement, good gun depression, 4 crew member, a coaxial MAC 31 machinegun and large tracks. Specifically, the Lorraine distinguishes itself by having a pike nose, similar to that of an IS-3, road wheels instead of metal ones and' it is the first French vehicle to be able to consistently pierce more than 200 mm of armour at standard combat ranges and it can do it seven times a minute.

Armour:

Even if its armour pattern is very efficient, with strong and well-designed angles, it is only at most 40 mm thick, meaning it will only bounce HMG fire. The best way to protect this tank is staying away from the action and taking down its foes as far as possible.

Mobility:

This "medium" tank actually behaves as a light one: high top speed and acceleration, good turning rate (neutral steering) and awesome hill climbing capacity. Use its mobility to follow light tanks into large flanking manoeuvres, providing them an extra punch for scouted targets. In a more "static" usage (i.e. once in good position), its good reverse speed should get it fast enough into cover and out of bad situations if required.

Firepower:

With good depression, high gun placement and fast rate of fire, this tank is used at its best in hull-down positions, far away from the frontline. This gun's penetration rates are similar to that of T-54's APHE shells, but without the -He filler, which downgrades its after-effect a bit. At this BR, the coaxial MG can barely be used against some open topped-vehicles in specific contexts.

Tactics

Use it as a sniper tank. Don't engage close quarters combat: it will only result in a ~8000 SL pile of scrap. Even if spalling damage is very good, one-shots are a bit rare: in order to kill an enemy, immobilize it first, snipe the fire control group (gunner, gun breech, barrel,etc.) and then finish off the rest of the crew. In an average engagement you will need ~3-4 shots per enemy: the first shot misses, it is the ranging shot, the second hits (disables mobility) the third and fourth finish the job. If lucky, penetrating frontal shots can do enough spalling damage to kill the entire crew.

Specific enemies worth noting

Even if the gun is very good, some tanks can prove to be hard targets, even more so as distance increases. Still, there is one fun thing : Most Panther tanks can be killed through their UFP (Panther D,A,G,F).

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USA
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Germany
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USSR
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Britain
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Japan
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Italy
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France
M26E1
T26E1-1 "Super Pershing"
T34
T95
T29
Tiger II(P)
Tiger II (H)
Panther II
Jagdpanther
Tiger (P) Ferdinand
T-44
T-44-100
T-44-122
IS-2 mod. 1944
IS-6
Churchill Mk VII
A34 Black Prince
FV 221 Caernarvon
Centurion Mk.3
Stridsvagn 81
FV4202
Ho-Ri Prototype
Type 5 Ho-Ri Production
M26 Pershing "Ariete" (rare) AMX M4
AMX-50/100

Counter-tactics

Any tank at its BR can take it down, SPAAs can even engage it from some distance, if doing so, target the turret ring as it is barely angled and somewhat flat.

Planes can engage it very securely since it has poor gun elevation and no top-mounted MG.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very mobile
  • Excellent penetration from the gun
  • High top speed
  • Fast reverse speed
  • Sloped frontal armour, similar pattern to that of an IS-3
  • Great conical fragmentation from the gun. Frontal penetrations/center of mass shots are deadly.
  • Very fast turret rotation speed, almost as fast as some SPAA.
  • Excellent flanker
  • Powerful gun with fast reload rate
  • 7 rounds autoloader allows engaging multiple threats before having to "long reload"
  • Good gun depression angle
  • Neutral steering

Cons:

  • Thin frontal armour
  • Lack of explosive filler in the round
  • Conical fragmentation makes side shots less effective
  • Side armour is flat and thin
  • High repair costs (similar to that of MBTs)
  • Filled with ammo
  • Bad turret elevation angle
  • Thin top armour, vulnerable to strafing planes and artillery

Specifications

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Armaments

1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon (49 rounds)
1 x 7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (4,800 rounds)

Main armament

1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 49 Shells
  • Fire Rate: 9 Shots per minute
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 13°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), _._°/s (Upgraded), _._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), _._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), _._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reload Rate: 38.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 49 Shells
  • Fire Rate: 9 Shots per minute
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 13°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), _._°/s (Upgraded), _._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), _._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), _._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reload Rate: 38.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 49 Shells
  • Fire Rate: 9 Shots per minute
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 13°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), _._°/s (Upgraded), _._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), _._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), _._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reload Rate: 38.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)

Ammunition

Ammunition Penetration in mm @ 90° Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay in m: Fuse sensitivity in mm: Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: Ricochet:
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 0% 50% 100%
100 mm Obus de rupture 229 226 216 201 189 179 APCBC 1060 15 N/A N/A N/A ° 42° 27° 19°
100 mm Obus explosif 18 18 18 18 18 18 HE 1000 15 0.1 0.5 1,400 +0° 11° 10°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Lorraine 40t
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
49 46 (+3) 41 (+8) 35 (+14) 29 (+20) 24 (+25) 19 (+30) 14 (+35) (+42) (+48) Turret empty:  () no

Secondary armament

7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (coaxial)

Crew

  • Commander
  • Gunner
  • Loader
  • Driver

Total: 4 Crew members

Armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 40 mm (57-69°) Front glacis
35 mm (59°) Lower glacis
40 mm (69°) Driver's hatch
30 mm (30°) Top
30 mm Bottom
25 mm (31°) 20 mm
8 mm Engine grille
Turret 45 mm (52-64°) Turret front
30 mm (20-53°) Turret base
50 mm (9-83°) Barrel shroud
30 mm (0-56°) Turret
30 mm (0-28°) Turret base
30 mm (1-29°) Turret bustle
30 mm (6-22°) Pivot ball
20 mm (72-89°) Turret underside
20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 30 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.

Engine & mobility

Weight: 39.7 ton

Max Speed: 66 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 1317 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 33.17 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 40°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°
Weight: 39.7 ton

Max Speed: 60 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 752 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 18.94 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 40°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°
Weight: 39.7 ton

Max Speed: 60 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 752 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 18.94 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 40°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°

Modules and improvements

History of creation and combat usage

Screenshots and fan art

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Icon-country-fra.png Lorraine 40t
Nation France
Type Medium tank
Rank 4
Battle Rating
6.7
7.0
7.0

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Weight
39,700 kg
87,523 lb
Number of Crew 4
Hull armour thickness
40/30/25/20 mm
1.57/1.18/0.98/0.79 inches
Statistics
Engine power (stock)
1,317 hp
752 hp
752 hp
Engine power (upgraded)
___ hp
___ hp
___ hp
HP/ton ratio (stock)
33.17
33.71
18.94
19.25
18.94
19.25
HP/ton ratio (Upgraded)
__.__
__.__
__.__
__.__
__.__
__.__
Max speed
66 km/h
41 mph
60 km/h
37 mph
60 km/h
37 mph
Main Weapon
1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 Cannon
Ammo stowage 49 rounds
Vertical guidance -8°/13°
Secondary Weapon
1 x MAC 31 Machine gun
Ammo stowage 4,800 rounds
Mount Coaxial
Economy
Required RP 78,000 RP
Vehicle cost 230,000 SL
Crew training cost 65,000 SL
Max repair cost*
7,700 SL
8,940 SL
10,050 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
5d 06h
11d
11d
Free repair time (Upgraded)
_d __h
_d __h
_d __h
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