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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_t_80}}
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{{About
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| about = Soviet light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| usage = the Main Battle Tank with similar designation
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| link = T-80B
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American torpedo bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.53 "Firestorm"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. An upgrade over the [[T-70]], the T-80 introduces better armour and an extra crew member to increase the tank's survivability in the battlefield.
  
The {{PAGENAME}} is the first usable bomber in the U.S. aircraft line up. While the likes of the OS2Us and the SB2Us are capable of bombing, they cannot do what the {{PAGENAME}} can do and that is to carry a torpedo or optionally upwards of 1,600 lbs (725 kg) of bombs. The Devastator is adept at bombing either naval or land-based targets. On maps with naval ships, torpedoes require the little naval bomber to release from a very low altitude, a maximum of 340 ft ( 104 m) or 820 ft (250 m) depending on the torpedo used. For those pilots who prefer utilizing bombs, they can be just as easily used on ships as on land-based vehicles except to ensure greater accuracy; this requires the aircraft to be quite low to the ground.
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Just like the previous [[T-70]], the T-80 boasts strong frontal armour and high mobility in a compact package. However, several notable upgrades are present. These upgrades include an increased crew count, fire rate, and cannon traverse range. The only downsides are that turret armour is reduced, and a somewhat large shot trap now exists all around the turret.
  
The lone offensive machine gun does not offer much, but can be effectively used to pick off damaged ground targets or even getting a luck shot on an enemy fighter. The lone rear-facing dorsal machine gun is not a miracle worker, though it does a good job of making it difficult for enemy fighters to sit on the {{PAGENAME}}’s tail.  The aircraft is quite manoeuvrable and can quickly whip around to attempt a second bombing run on a target if there are any bombs left over. Though state-of-the-art when developed, this bomber was quickly outdated, but that did not stop it being utilised at the beginning of World War II. While in War Thunder this bomber might seem to be an easy target for new pilots, those with some practice under their belt can utilise this as a very effective early bomber, racking up destroyed ground vehicles and anti-aircraft artillery targets.
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== General info ==
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
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* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
  
== General info ==
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{| class="wikitable"
=== Flight Performance ===
 
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 
[[File:TBD-1 an trn 26 003.png|400px|thumb|left|Torpedo runs are a speciality of the '''{{PAGENAME}}'''.]]
 
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[[File:TBD-1 an trn 26 001.png|400px|thumb|right|A '''{{PAGENAME}}''' setting up for a torpedo run against Japanese warships in the Pacific.]]
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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| Hull || 35 mm (62°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 35 mm (33-71°) ''Driver's port'' <br> 45 mm (31°) ''Lower glacis''|| 25 mm || 15 mm (70°) ''Top'' <br> 25 mm (43°) ''Bottom'' || 15 mm
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,500 m)
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| Turret || 35 mm (4-67°) ''Turret front'' <br> 45 mm (12-59°) ''Gun mantlet''  || 35 mm (6-23°) || 35 mm (28°) || 15 mm
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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|}
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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'''Notes:'''
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
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=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 263|rbMinHp= 150}}
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== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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<!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
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{{main|20-K (45 mm)}}The T-80 has an adequate cannon for its BR. Stock round BR-240 has a maximum penetration of 70 mm. Combined with the 29 g TNT, it is almost certain that the T-80 will one-shot most tank upon penetration. Even at more than 500 m away from the target, it still has 40-50 mm of penetration which is still enough to go through a lot of light tanks' armour. The 3.3 second reload (stock) is one of the fastest reload time for non-automatic guns, allowing the player to quickly fire more shells if the first shot didn't kill. The tank has 8 degrees of gun depression which is enough for most terrain. At 2.3 BR, facing heavily armored tanks becomes a common thing, so the player should get comfortable with using the BR-240P APCR which penetrates more but lacks damage.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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! colspan="5" | [[20-K (45 mm)|45 mm 20-K]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
| 298 || 287 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 19.8 || 20.5 || 4.3 || 4.3 || 150
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 94 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+65° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A ||5.71||7.91||9.60||10.62||11.29|| rowspan="2" |3.25|| rowspan="2" |2.87|| rowspan="2" |2.65|| rowspan="2" |2.5
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,500 m)
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! ''Realistic''
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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|3.57||4.2||5.10||5.64||6.0
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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|}
! RB
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! AB
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==== Ammunition ====
! RB
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! AB
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
! RB
 
 
|-
 
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| 327 || 312 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 18.3 || 19.0 || 8.3 || 6.1 || 150
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
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|-
|}
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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|-
====Details====
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| BR-240 || APHEBC || 70 || 68 || 59 || 50 || 42 || 35
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
 
|-
 
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! colspan="5" | Features
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| BR-240P || APCR || 106 || 99 || 72 || 49 || 33 || 23
 
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! Combat flaps
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| BR-240SP || AP || 73 || 71 || 62 || 52 || 44 || 37
! Take-off flaps
 
! Landing flaps
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
|-
 
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| || || || X || ✓    <!-- ✓ -->
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| O-243 || HE || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="10" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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|-
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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| BR-240 || APHEBC || 760 || 1.43 || 1.2 || 9.0 || 29.26 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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| BR-240P || APCR || 1,070 || 0.85 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
 
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|-
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| BR-240SP || AP || 757 || 1.43 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
! -
 
 
|-
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 212 || ~8 || ~2
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| O-243 || HE || 343 || 2.15 || 0.4 || 0.3 || 118 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
 
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! Full<br>ammo
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! 1st<br>rack empty
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! 4th<br>rack empty
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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! 5th<br>rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
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! 7th<br>rack empty
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! 8th<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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| < 465 || < 400 || < 380 || > 323
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| '''94''' || 85&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 75&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 63&nbsp;''(+31)'' || 51&nbsp;''(+43)'' || 39&nbsp;''(+55)'' || 27&nbsp;''(+67)'' || 15&nbsp;''(+79)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+93)'' || No
 
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|}
 
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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Notes:
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* To go into battle with the turret empty of ammo, pack 75&nbsp;''(+19)'' shells (racks 1 and 2 emptied).
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* Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
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=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|DT (7.62 mm)}}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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! colspan="5" | [[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]]
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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! Mount
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! Capacity<br>(Belt capacity)
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! Rate of fire<br>(shots/minute)
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! Vertical<br>guidance
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! Horizontal<br>guidance
 
|-
 
|-
! Optimal altitude
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| Coaxial || 1,071 (63) || 600 || N/A || N/A
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 2,620 m || 900 hp || 963 hp
 
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
 
* 12.7 mm steel - behind the engine
 
* 12.7 mm steel - behind the pilot
 
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
<!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' -->
 
[[File:TBD-1 an trn 26 004.png|400px|thumb|right|A '''{{PAGENAME}}''' blitzing ground artillery with a mix of 100 and 500 lb bombs.]]
 
{{main|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}
 
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
* 1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg)
 
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 
{{main|AN-M30A1 (100 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|Mk.13/44|Mk.13}}
 
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
* 12 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,200 lb total)
 
* 1 х Mk.13 torpedo
 
* 1 х Mk.13/44 torpedo
 
* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 6 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,600 lb total)
 
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
<!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' -->
 
{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)}}
 
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 
* 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, dorsal turret (600 rpg)
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
[[File:TBD-1 an trn 26 002.png|400px|thumb|right|A '''{{PAGENAME}}''' scoring a direct torpedo hit on a Japanese ship.]]
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The T-80 is a little different from most light tanks. Like all light tanks, it has excellent speed and mobility. Unlike most light tanks it has great, sloped frontal armour and good turret armour, making it highly resistant to most tier 1 gun. Pair this with its fast firing 45mm gun and it becomes an excellent vehicle for hunting lightly armoured foes. The addition of APCR allows you to fight more heavily armoured vehicles. You may come across Matilda and Valentine tanks, which are highly resistant to the APHEBC round but can be more easily penetrated by the APCR (at the expense of less damage).
The first thing a pilot will notice about the TBD in gameplay is its "rubber-banding" tendency to return to a stable speed of about 250 km/h. The aircraft has mediocre energy retention, especially in a turn or when coming out of a dive. However, it is a stable and easy plane to fly, even in Realistic Battles. Strangely enough, the TBD has awesome acceleration from a standing start. The acceleration peters off after about 140 km/h (just above its stall speed) but makes it a nice plane to take-off, especially from carriers. The armament on this plane is very bad and will get shot down if engaged with a fighter. The TBD is a very attractive target for fighters so climb to an altitude of 5000 meters. When dropping bombs, decrease your throttle to 50% as the bombs are more accurate when flying slow.
 
  
This aircraft is best used in a ground strike role, carpet bombing ground targets with a large quantity of smaller bombs available out of the box, and in this role, it performs respectably. It features a single 12.7 mm MG attached to the starboard side of the engine, with a generous ammo load, but although the TBD has a good turning radius it is not recommended to engage as a fighter. A rear gunner also wields a 7.7 mm MG, and although its horizontal coverage is laughable, it is a welcome addition to a low-flying pilot with the ability to keep his enemies in his gunner's (or main gun's) sights.
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In order to take full advantage of this tank's strengths, you should aim to use one of two distinct tactical options. Option one is to operate as a frontline tank in urban combat. Your frontal armour is of great use here. However, this strategy should be avoided if you are not near or at the top of this tank's matchmaking range. The other option is to work as a flanking tank. Your gun is more than capable in this role, and unlike most flanking role tanks, the surprise isn't always necessary for survival. Thanks to your strong frontal armour, you can do well under incoming fire if your attempt at flanking is discovered, or if your opponent is determined to survive and providing stiff resistance. Few tanks offer the level of flexibility in terms of combat approach that is granted to the T-80.
  
It is important to note that the TBD suffers from extremely fragile flaps and gear, at least in Realistic and Simulator Battles; even combat flaps will break off at any speed above about 210 km/h, while the gear rip at about 180.
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When taking the tank into battle, a mix of APHEBC and APCR is favourable. The BR-240 AP shells against flanked opponents and structural weaknesses (e.g. [[Pz.IV E]] turret), while the BR-240P APCR role is for close range combat (<400m, due blunt nose cone) and engaging heavy armoured box tanks, especially the [[M3 Lee]], [[StuG III A|StuG]] and up-armoured [[T-28E]]. As usual, having a few rounds of pure HE is great against any [[:Category:Anti-aircraft_vehicles|SPAAG]].
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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In battle, you must beware of some of the high calibre guns found at the tier. Tank destroyers such as the [[Panzerjager I|Panzerjäger I]], [[M3 GMC]] and the Japanese [[Ho-Ni III]] will all be able to take the T-80 out easily. SPGs armed with howitzer type guns like the Type 4 [[Ho-Ro]] also pose a high threat. Also, beware German vehicles armed with the long barreled 50 mm gun, like the [[Pz.III J]] and [[Sd.Kfz.234/2]] Puma. The best way to play the T-80 is to use it as a light tank. Do not be overconfident. Avoid direct combat and assume that enemy tanks will be able to penetrate you. Attacking from an advantageous position will allow your tanks great armour and gun to shine.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
 
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
 
! colspan="3" | Radiator
 
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
 
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
|-
 
! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Type
 
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
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|}
 
  
===Modules===
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=== Modules ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
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! Tier
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
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! colspan="2" | Mobility
! colspan="1" | Survivability
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! Protection
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
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! colspan="3" | Firepower
 
|-
 
|-
 
| I
 
| I
| Fuselage repair
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| Tracks
| Radiator
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|
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| Parts
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| BR-240SP
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| Horizontal Drive
 
|
 
|
| Turret 7 mm
 
| ITC mk.III
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| II
 
| II
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| Suspension
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| Brake System
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| FPE
 
|
 
|
| Compressor
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| Adjustment of Fire
| Airframe
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| Airstrike
| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
 
| Improved torpedo
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| III
 
| III
| Wings repair
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| Filters
| Engine
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|
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| Crew Replenishment
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| BR-240P
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| Elevation Mechanism
 
|
 
|
| Offensive 12 mm
 
| SBC mk.I
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| IV
 
| IV
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| Transmission
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| Engine
 
|
 
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| Engine injection
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| Artillery Support
| Cover
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| Improved optics
| New 12 mm MGs
 
 
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The T-80 is damaged very easily, and as such, having the "parts" modification should be the first priority. After that, researching AP and APCR rounds is very useful, since it allows the tanker to be much more of a threat to well-armoured opponents, being much more versatile.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Low stall speed
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* Has a bombsight
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* Fastest reload speed in the game for a non-automated cannon
* Has an arrestor hook for carrier landing
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* Small target
* Very stable and easy to fly
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* Co-axial MG suitable against unarmoured vehicles
* Very manoeuvrable for a bomber
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* Capability to shoot APCR rounds
* Very good turn and roll rate
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* Frontal turret and hull armour is surprisingly good, and can easily bounce shots from same Br opponents
* Carries a decent quantity of bombs without requiring any research
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* First Soviet light tank to feature more than two crew, meaning you can now afford to lose a crew member
* Great standing acceleration
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* Awesome vertical traverse limit of 65°, allows for some anti-air potential, though it is unreliable in this role
* Cockpit offers somehow decent visibility
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* Some guns will really struggle to penetrate your armour at this tier. Japanese 37/57 mm and other 45 mm guns (without APCR) pose very little threat.
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* Often underestimated. Many players will aim poorly and their shells will ricochet
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* Ability to scout in low rank
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* Armaments are extremely underwhelming, with a single 12.7 mm in front and a 7.62 mm in the rear
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* Low sustainable "cruise" speed (200-250 km/h)
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* Very slow traverse speed for turret (hand cranked)
* Slow
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* Slow gun elevation speed
* Very bad energy retention
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* Front shot trap, although decently protected, is a serious weak point
* Bombs are mounted on external pylons
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* Low calibre gun
* A dive bomber without any air brakes
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* Easily damaged by careless driving
* Poor overall armament with limited defensive coverage
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* Gun is inaccurate at long range.
* No gun sight in cockpit other than a scope with an extremely limited (and very shaky) field of view
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* Tank wobbles when you stop, meaning you will have to wait a few seconds before you can fire accurately.
* Doesn't come with its Navy Blue camouflage unlike other US Navy planes
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* Easily one-shotted due to the small crew number
* Fragile flaps and gear
 
* Gunner has no armour
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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The '''T-80''' light tank was a redesign of the [[T-70]] light tank in an attempt to make the design relevant again.
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During World War II, the concept of the light tank was deemed obsolete, they were too lightly armoured, too lightly armed, and sometimes don't go that much faster than the 1940s medium tank designs which had better armour and guns. Plus, the smaller profile of the tank meant that the crew are not necessarily given enough comfort room and the constraint would force turret design to be a one or two-man turret, restricting the commander to perform other duties as well.
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The T-80 tried to remedy this by giving the tank more armour and a two-man turret so the commander could coordinate more efficiently than the one-man turret on the T-70. However, the role of the light tank in the Soviet Union could be fulfilled by the incoming supplies of Lend-Lease equipment available from Britain and America in the form of [[M3 Stuart]]s and [[Valentine Mk I|Valentine]] tanks, which are better than the T-70 and T-80 designs. In October of 1943, the light tank production were all cancelled, resulting in only 120 T-80s being produced in its brief production life.
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This tank was created based on the T-70M, with the aim of eliminating its main flaws.
  
The active-duty life of the {{PAGENAME}} Devastator was a relatively short one in which it went from being the Navy’s most advanced aircraft in service to being outdated only three years later and then removed from active service within five years. Though seeing limited action during WWII and recorded performance as abysmal later was vindicated when documentation recorded that the U.S. Mk. 13 torpedo, one of the main suspended armaments of this aircraft was to share much of this blame as their failure rate (sinking, not-exploding, running cold, not running true, porposing) was extremely high.
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An analysis of the use of this tank in battle showed that a tank equipped with a cannon needs more than two crew members: the tank commander had to fulfill the role of both a driver and a loader, which negatively affected the tank's manoeuvrability and firing rate in battle. In addition, the constantly developing array of anti-tank weapons meant that stronger armour was required. So in 1943, the GAZ design bureau developed the new T-80 light tank with stronger armour and a three-man crew. One of the tank's key elements was its 45 mm cannon's high angle of fire. To allow for high-angle firing, e.g. during battles in urban conditions, the tank was equipped with a K-8T collimator sight. This sight provided the ability to fire at both air and ground targets.
  
The Devastator had a strong start as a winner of a U.S. Navy competition for a new carrier-based bomber. This aircraft included many firsts for the Navy as the {{PAGENAME}} was a monoplane manufactured from all metal (no fabric covering for any surfaces), and hydraulically folding wings to allowing stowage of more aircraft on the carrier. The Devastator had a crew of three, the pilot would fly the aircraft and operate the single forward-facing machine gun while the bombardier who sat in the centre of the cockpit would lay prone on the bottom of the aircraft and would aim the Norden bombsight located under the pilot’s seat through a window in the belly of the aircraft. The third crew member was the radio operator/rear gunner who also operated a single machine gun in the dorsal turret to fend off any attacking enemy aircraft.
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By September 1943, factory No. 40 in the town of Mytishchi had produced 81 vehicles of this type in total.
  
A total of 129 {{PAGENAME}} units were purchased and delivered to the U.S. Navy and were farmed out to several aircraft carriers such as the notable Enterprise, Lexington, Wasp and Hornet. Unfortunately, the Navy realized by 1940 that the Devastator was not the frontline bomber it needed and its replacement the Grumman TBF Avenger was not yet at a stage where it could be operational. Though outclassed by many Japanese fighters, the {{PAGENAME}} was still pressed into active service, however, as an example, 41 were deployed during the Battle of Midway with only four returning to the carriers. Though other factors contributed such as miscommunication and uncoordinated sorties, the Devastators flew without fighter cover and were easily picked off when lining up for torpedo runs often flying in a straight line at around 115 mp/h (185 km/h). Ship batteries also had an easy time bearing down on these slow and predictable torpedo runs.  Though, the attacks were not a complete waste, as the Devastator attacks tied up the Imperial Japanese Navy and their protective fighters which allowed the late-arriving SBD dauntless dive bombers to inflict massive damage on the IJN carriers with very little resistance allowing them to carry out more effective attacks.
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The T-80 tank had an assembly typical of Soviet-produced light tanks. The transmission compartment was located at the front, and the engine at the back. This caused increased vulnerability, since it was the front of the tank that was most often subjected to fire from the enemy. The T-80's fuel tanks were located outside of the fighting compartment in an armoured partition, which reduced the risk of a hit starting a fire. This arrangement increased the survivability of the tank's crew.
  
The Battle of Midway showed the technological age of the Devastator and the Navy elected to withdraw the remaining {{PAGENAME}}s from active service and relegate them to training duty for both pilots and mechanics, while others were used by firefighters to practice extinguishing aircraft fires. All surviving Devastators are unsalvageable wrecks (the U.S. Navy will not relinquish ownership and thus cannot be salvaged) with one sitting in the Atlantic Ocean off of Miami, Florida USA, another in the Pacific Ocean just off of the coast of Mission Beach, California USA, two more in Jaluit Lagoon in the Marshall Islands and seven resting near the USS Lexington on the ocean floor of the Coral Sea.
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The tank's effectivity in combat was reduced by the unreliability of its high-powered engines and its low mobility due to its increased weight.
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The new vehicles entered service in self-propelled artillery regiments as command tanks and were used until 1945.
  
 
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This page is about the Soviet light tank T-80. For the Main Battle Tank with similar designation, see T-80B.

Description

GarageImage T-80.jpg


The T-80 is a rank II Soviet light tank with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB) and 2.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. An upgrade over the T-70, the T-80 introduces better armour and an extra crew member to increase the tank's survivability in the battlefield.

Just like the previous T-70, the T-80 boasts strong frontal armour and high mobility in a compact package. However, several notable upgrades are present. These upgrades include an increased crew count, fire rate, and cannon traverse range. The only downsides are that turret armour is reduced, and a somewhat large shot trap now exists all around the turret.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 35 mm (62°) Front glacis
35 mm (33-71°) Driver's port
45 mm (31°) Lower glacis
25 mm 15 mm (70°) Top
25 mm (43°) Bottom
15 mm
Turret 35 mm (4-67°) Turret front
45 mm (12-59°) Gun mantlet
35 mm (6-23°) 35 mm (28°) 15 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 51 7 11.6 263 324 22.67 27.93
Realistic 46 6 150 170 12.93 14.66

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 20-K (45 mm)
The T-80 has an adequate cannon for its BR. Stock round BR-240 has a maximum penetration of 70 mm. Combined with the 29 g TNT, it is almost certain that the T-80 will one-shot most tank upon penetration. Even at more than 500 m away from the target, it still has 40-50 mm of penetration which is still enough to go through a lot of light tanks' armour. The 3.3 second reload (stock) is one of the fastest reload time for non-automatic guns, allowing the player to quickly fire more shells if the first shot didn't kill. The tank has 8 degrees of gun depression which is enough for most terrain. At 2.3 BR, facing heavily armored tanks becomes a common thing, so the player should get comfortable with using the BR-240P APCR which penetrates more but lacks damage.
45 mm 20-K Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 94 -8°/+65° ±180° N/A 5.71 7.91 9.60 10.62 11.29 3.25 2.87 2.65 2.5
Realistic 3.57 4.2 5.10 5.64 6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
BR-240 APHEBC 70 68 59 50 42 35
BR-240P APCR 106 99 72 49 33 23
BR-240SP AP 73 71 62 52 44 37
O-243 HE 4 4 4 4 4 4
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
BR-240 APHEBC 760 1.43 1.2 9.0 29.26 48° 63° 71°
BR-240P APCR 1,070 0.85 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
BR-240SP AP 757 1.43 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°
O-243 HE 343 2.15 0.4 0.3 118 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
94 85 (+9) 75 (+19) 63 (+31) 51 (+43) 39 (+55) 27 (+67) 15 (+79) (+93) No
Ammo racks of the T-80

Notes:

  • To go into battle with the turret empty of ammo, pack 75 (+19) shells (racks 1 and 2 emptied).
  • Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.

Machine guns

Main article: DT (7.62 mm)
7.62 mm DT
Mount Capacity
(Belt capacity)
Rate of fire
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Coaxial 1,071 (63) 600 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The T-80 is a little different from most light tanks. Like all light tanks, it has excellent speed and mobility. Unlike most light tanks it has great, sloped frontal armour and good turret armour, making it highly resistant to most tier 1 gun. Pair this with its fast firing 45mm gun and it becomes an excellent vehicle for hunting lightly armoured foes. The addition of APCR allows you to fight more heavily armoured vehicles. You may come across Matilda and Valentine tanks, which are highly resistant to the APHEBC round but can be more easily penetrated by the APCR (at the expense of less damage).

In order to take full advantage of this tank's strengths, you should aim to use one of two distinct tactical options. Option one is to operate as a frontline tank in urban combat. Your frontal armour is of great use here. However, this strategy should be avoided if you are not near or at the top of this tank's matchmaking range. The other option is to work as a flanking tank. Your gun is more than capable in this role, and unlike most flanking role tanks, the surprise isn't always necessary for survival. Thanks to your strong frontal armour, you can do well under incoming fire if your attempt at flanking is discovered, or if your opponent is determined to survive and providing stiff resistance. Few tanks offer the level of flexibility in terms of combat approach that is granted to the T-80.

When taking the tank into battle, a mix of APHEBC and APCR is favourable. The BR-240 AP shells against flanked opponents and structural weaknesses (e.g. Pz.IV E turret), while the BR-240P APCR role is for close range combat (<400m, due blunt nose cone) and engaging heavy armoured box tanks, especially the M3 Lee, StuG and up-armoured T-28E. As usual, having a few rounds of pure HE is great against any SPAAG.

In battle, you must beware of some of the high calibre guns found at the tier. Tank destroyers such as the Panzerjäger I, M3 GMC and the Japanese Ho-Ni III will all be able to take the T-80 out easily. SPGs armed with howitzer type guns like the Type 4 Ho-Ro also pose a high threat. Also, beware German vehicles armed with the long barreled 50 mm gun, like the Pz.III J and Sd.Kfz.234/2 Puma. The best way to play the T-80 is to use it as a light tank. Do not be overconfident. Avoid direct combat and assume that enemy tanks will be able to penetrate you. Attacking from an advantageous position will allow your tanks great armour and gun to shine.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts BR-240SP Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire Airstrike
III Filters Crew Replenishment BR-240P Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support Improved optics

The T-80 is damaged very easily, and as such, having the "parts" modification should be the first priority. After that, researching AP and APCR rounds is very useful, since it allows the tanker to be much more of a threat to well-armoured opponents, being much more versatile.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Fastest reload speed in the game for a non-automated cannon
  • Small target
  • Co-axial MG suitable against unarmoured vehicles
  • Capability to shoot APCR rounds
  • Frontal turret and hull armour is surprisingly good, and can easily bounce shots from same Br opponents
  • First Soviet light tank to feature more than two crew, meaning you can now afford to lose a crew member
  • Awesome vertical traverse limit of 65°, allows for some anti-air potential, though it is unreliable in this role
  • Some guns will really struggle to penetrate your armour at this tier. Japanese 37/57 mm and other 45 mm guns (without APCR) pose very little threat.
  • Often underestimated. Many players will aim poorly and their shells will ricochet
  • Ability to scout in low rank

Cons:

  • Very slow traverse speed for turret (hand cranked)
  • Slow gun elevation speed
  • Front shot trap, although decently protected, is a serious weak point
  • Low calibre gun
  • Easily damaged by careless driving
  • Gun is inaccurate at long range.
  • Tank wobbles when you stop, meaning you will have to wait a few seconds before you can fire accurately.
  • Easily one-shotted due to the small crew number

History

The T-80 light tank was a redesign of the T-70 light tank in an attempt to make the design relevant again.

During World War II, the concept of the light tank was deemed obsolete, they were too lightly armoured, too lightly armed, and sometimes don't go that much faster than the 1940s medium tank designs which had better armour and guns. Plus, the smaller profile of the tank meant that the crew are not necessarily given enough comfort room and the constraint would force turret design to be a one or two-man turret, restricting the commander to perform other duties as well.

The T-80 tried to remedy this by giving the tank more armour and a two-man turret so the commander could coordinate more efficiently than the one-man turret on the T-70. However, the role of the light tank in the Soviet Union could be fulfilled by the incoming supplies of Lend-Lease equipment available from Britain and America in the form of M3 Stuarts and Valentine tanks, which are better than the T-70 and T-80 designs. In October of 1943, the light tank production were all cancelled, resulting in only 120 T-80s being produced in its brief production life.

In-game description

This tank was created based on the T-70M, with the aim of eliminating its main flaws.

An analysis of the use of this tank in battle showed that a tank equipped with a cannon needs more than two crew members: the tank commander had to fulfill the role of both a driver and a loader, which negatively affected the tank's manoeuvrability and firing rate in battle. In addition, the constantly developing array of anti-tank weapons meant that stronger armour was required. So in 1943, the GAZ design bureau developed the new T-80 light tank with stronger armour and a three-man crew. One of the tank's key elements was its 45 mm cannon's high angle of fire. To allow for high-angle firing, e.g. during battles in urban conditions, the tank was equipped with a K-8T collimator sight. This sight provided the ability to fire at both air and ground targets.

By September 1943, factory No. 40 in the town of Mytishchi had produced 81 vehicles of this type in total.

The T-80 tank had an assembly typical of Soviet-produced light tanks. The transmission compartment was located at the front, and the engine at the back. This caused increased vulnerability, since it was the front of the tank that was most often subjected to fire from the enemy. The T-80's fuel tanks were located outside of the fighting compartment in an armoured partition, which reduced the risk of a hit starting a fire. This arrangement increased the survivability of the tank's crew.

The tank's effectivity in combat was reduced by the unreliability of its high-powered engines and its low mobility due to its increased weight.

The new vehicles entered service in self-propelled artillery regiments as command tanks and were used until 1945.

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Vehicles equipped with the same gun

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the tank;
  • other literature.


USSR light tanks
T-26  T-26 · T-26 (1st Gv.T.Br.) · T-26-4 · T-26E
BT  BT-5 · RBT-5 · BT-7 · BT-7 TD · BT-7M · BT-7A (F-32)
T-50  T-126 · T-50
T-70  T-70 · T-80
PT-76  PT-76B · PT-76-57 · Object 906
BMP  BMP-1 · BMP-2 · BMP-2M · BMP-3
BMD  BMD-4
2S25  2S25 · 2S25M
Wheeled  BA-11 · BTR-80A
Other  T-60 · Object 685 · 2S38
China  ▂Type 62