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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Waffenträger}}
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|market=T-34E
 
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{{About
 
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| about = premium Russian medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
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| usage = other uses
 
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| link = T-34 (Family)
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. This tank was available for purchase before 2016, then used as an event vehicle and at this point was only gifted during the Summer Event of 2018.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A"]].
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The feature of this tank is its 16 mm of spaced armour around its turret and sides, which in some occasions will bounce incoming shells when angled correctly. Because of this, T-34E is often known as "the best T-34".
 
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In War Thunder, T-34E is a truly unique tank for the collector, and also very useful often outperforming other T-34s. The extra spaced armour can be truly life-saving in certain situations.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
 
'''Armour type:'''
  
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret rear, turret roof, gun mantlet)
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
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* Cast homogeneous armour (turret flanks, glacis joint, driver's hatch, machine gun port)
 
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* High Hardness Rolled homogeneous armour (side skirts, sides and turret spaced armour)
 
  
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || 45 mm (60°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 75 mm (60°) ''Driver's hatch'' <br> 65 mm (30°) ''MG port'' <br> 100 mm + 20 mm ''Glacis joint''<br> 45 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis'' || 40 mm (40°) + 16 mm (50°) ''Top'' <br> 45 mm + 10 mm ''Bottom'' || 40 mm (47°) || 20 mm
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| Hull || 10 mm (76°), 20 mm (46°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 5 mm (46°) ''Engine grille'' <br> 20 mm (44°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 10 mm (46°) ''Crew ports'' || 10 mm (25°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm ''Bottom'' || 10 mm (26°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm (15°) ''Bottom'' || 5 mm
 
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| Turret || 45 mm + 16 mm (25°) ''Turret front'' <br> 45 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 45 mm (30°) + 16 m (30°) || 45 mm (30°) + 16 m (30°) || 15 mm
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| Turret || 20 mm (41°) ''Turret front'' <br> 20 mm (5-46°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 10 mm (22-24°) || 10 mm (24°) || N/A
 
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'''Notes:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
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* Suspensions wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.
 
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* Additional 10 mm armour plates cover the engine air intakes on the hull roof.
 
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* There is no cupola on this tank.
 
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* Never try to shoot through the driver's hatch: it is a guaranteed ricochet.
 
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* Frontally, the weak spots are turret cheeks and gun mantlet (under the gun).
 
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Being a T-34 (1941) with spaced armour, the {{PAGENAME}} reacts like any other low-rank T-34, but stronger.
 
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With the 16 mm of spaced armour, the upper side of the tank is almost impossible to penetrate when angled. While angling, the upper frontal plate will also be unlikely for a shell to penetrate, therefore only exposing the turret.
 
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The {{PAGENAME}} suffers from its weak turret like other early T-34s do. Even with the spaced armour, the {{PAGENAME}} still cannot stop most other enemy shells. So during engagements, try not to expose your turret by hiding behind an object. Also, when the {{PAGENAME}} is not angled, the upper frontal plate is very weak since there is no spaced armour there. So to minimize the chance to expose the weak spots, you should angle the tank 45 degrees to bounce incoming shells.
 
  
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When getting hit by an enemy, some shells can penetrate the tank, and depending on the type of shells and the type of gun, the result may be very different. Against cannons larger than 75 mm, the {{PAGENAME}}'s interior will be decimated. However, you will have a good chance to survive shells that are smaller with AP (Armour-Piercing) related shells. When suffering damage, most times your gunner and loader will be knocked out, or sometimes the cannon breech will be damaged. Therefore you should train your crew with high repair and agility skills.
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* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick and tracks are 30 mm thick.
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* Belly armour is 5 mm thick.
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* A 10 mm structural steel plate covers the engine from the crew.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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The {{PAGENAME}} has a decent top speed of 42 km/h, it is slightly slower than its other twins [[T-34 (1940)]] and [[T-34 (1941)|(1941)]] because of the extra weight of the spaced armour. With this speed, you will be able to reach certain positions before other medium tank counterparts. To use this speed to the fullest, players are suggested to flank around the map and get side shots of enemies. The reverse speed of the {{PAGENAME}} is mediocre, which means that players should not attempt to overextend when attacking, or this often results in destruction.
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|F-34 (76 mm)}}
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{{main|PaK 43 (88 mm)}}
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The gun on T-34E is the same on [[T-34 (1941)]] and [[T-34 (1942)|(1942)]], the F-34 cannon is a decent gun at this battle rating and offers a large number of different shells. All of the shells are useful in their own ways, but most players prefer using BR-350B, this is because of its performance in combat. BR-350B is classified as an APHEBC shell, which means that once the shell enters a tank, in most situations, it will explode and destroy the enemy at once. The reloading speed is average compared to other tanks in this tier, so you should avoid blind shooting just in case.
 
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Like many other T-34s, the amount of ammunition does not affect combat by much, because of the location of the ammo rack. The ammo rack is located under the loader and the gunner, which is an unlikely place for one to shoot.
 
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
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! colspan="5" | [[F-34 (76 mm)|76 mm F-34]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="5" | [[PaK 43 (88 mm)|88 mm PaK 43]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! ''Arcade''
 
! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 77 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+30° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 23.80 || 32.94 || 40.00 || 44.24 || 47.06 || rowspan="2" | 8.97 || rowspan="2" | 7.93 || rowspan="2" | 7.31 || rowspan="2" | 6.90
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| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+45° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 11.33 || 15.68 || 19.04 || 21.06 || 22.40 || rowspan="2" | 11.05 || rowspan="2" | 9.78|| rowspan="2" | 9.01 || rowspan="2" | 8.50
 
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! ''Realistic''
 
! ''Realistic''
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| 14.88 || 17.50 || 21.25 || 23.50 || 25.00
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| 8.33 || 9.80 || 11.90 || 13.16 || 14.00
 
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==== Ammunition ====
 
==== Ammunition ====
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The available choice of ammunition offers a complete range to engage all types of targets:
 
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* '''BR-350A (MD-5 fuze)''': APHEBC; a shell with high explosive mass that will one-shot any tank that is penetrates but has an average penetration power.
 
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* '''BR-350B (MD-8 fuze)''': APHEBC; increased penetration at the cost of slightly less explosive filler.
 
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* '''BR-350SP''': APBC; a solid shot with an even better penetration but no explosive filler.
 
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* '''BR-350P''': APCR; a composite round with the best penetration but no explosive filler and will only penetrate flat vertical surfaces.
 
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* '''BR-350A''': HEAT; a shaped charge with average penetration but without penetration loss over distance. Only penetrates flat vertical surfaces but the post-penetration damage is very effective on open and lightly armoured vehicles. Very slow shell travelling twice slower than your other projectiles.
 
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* '''OF-350M''': HE; useful for destroying open and lightly armoured vehicles.
 
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* '''Sh-354T''': Shrapnel; useful against vehicles that are resistant to the HE shells but too thinly armoured to trigger the fuzes of AP shells.
 
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* '''D-350A''': Smoke; useful to blind enemy vehicles that are too remote for you to disable so that you can progress towards objectives.
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 87 || 85 || 76 || 67 || 59 || 52
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| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 237 || 234 || 222 || 207 || 194 || 181
 
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| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze) || APHEBC || 94 || 92 || 83 || 73 || 65 || 57
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| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 279 || 273 || 252 || 227 || 205 || 185
 
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| BR-350SP || APBC || 102 || 100 || 91 || 81 || 72 || 64
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| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110
 
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| BR-350P || APCR || 125 || 119 || 92 || 68 || 50 || 36
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| Sprgr.43 || HE || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14
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| BP-350A || HEAT || 80 || 80 || 80 || 80 || 80 || 80
 
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| OF-350M || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
 
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| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 37 || 35 || 29 || 25 || 20 || 17
 
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="10" | Shell details
 
! colspan="10" | Shell details
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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| BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) || APHEBC || 662 || 6.30 || 1.2 || 14.0 || 150 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 1000 || 10.2 || 1.2 || 14 || 108.8 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze) || APHEBC || 655 || 6.30 || 0.9 || 14.0 || 98.56 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| BR-350SP || APBC || 655 || 6.78 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
 
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| BR-350P || APCR || 950 || 3.02 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
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| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 1130 || 7.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
 
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| BP-350A || HEAT || 355 || 5.30 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 959.42 || 62° || 69° || 73°
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| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 600 || 7.6 || N/A || 0.3 || 1,100  || 62° || 69° || 73°
 
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| OF-350M || HE || 680 || 6.20 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 621 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| Sprgr.43 || HE || 820 || 9.4 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,000 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| Sh-354T || Shrapnel || 680 || 6.20 || 0.5 || 8.0 || 85 || 62° || 69° || 73°
 
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! Ammunition
 
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! Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
 
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! Screen radius<br>(m)
 
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! Screen deploy time<br>(s)
 
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! Screen hold time<br>(s)
 
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! Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
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| D-350A || 680 || 6.45 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
 
 
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|x250px|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Waffenträger.]]
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! Full<br>ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br /> rack empty
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! 4th<br>rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br /> rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br /> rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" width="10%" |Recommendations
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
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| '''77''' || 75&nbsp;''(+2)'' || 69&nbsp;''(+8)'' || 53&nbsp;''(+24)'' || 37&nbsp;''(+40)'' || 19&nbsp;''(+58)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+76)'' || No
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|| '''30''' || 26&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 21&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 16&nbsp;''(+14)'' || 11&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+29)'' || style="text-align:left" | Right side empty: 21&nbsp;''(+9)'' || style="text-align:left" | No  
 
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* To go into battle with the flanks empty of shells, pack 69&nbsp;''(+8)'' shells (racks 1 & 2 depleted).
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== Usage in battles ==
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* As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
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=== Machine guns ===
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However, this vehicle also has poor mobility. It's just slow (both forwards and in reverse), especially when stock, and acceleration is poor as well. The tank struggles on slopes, and is completely unsuited for close-up brawling. Another downside to this vehicle is its poor armour setup. Although the armour protection can defend against machine gun fire, any cannon shell will penetrate with ease. The vehicle may also be hullbroken by significantly large shells. And finally, the open-top turret compartment is vulnerable to aircraft and artillery fire. Therefore, it may be necessary to work with SPAA teammates and to find cover under trees or behind buildings.
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{{main|DT (7.62 mm)}}
 
  
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The T-34E has two machine guns, one located in front of the machine gunner, and one beside the gun, but in-game only the turret machine gun is functional. The use of this DT machine gun is limited, with the controls being stuck with the turret, the machine gun cannot shoot aircraft. Instead, use the machine gun to blind the enemy and sometimes shoot open-topped tanks.
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Given the vehicle's advantages and disadvantages, a good way to play this vehicle is often in a sniping play-style. Staying hidden, keeping distance, and only exposing the vehicle in order to shoot capitalizes on the strength of the vehicle's gun while minimizing the effects of its weak armour. Additionally, it is very easy to hide this vehicle behind cover in a hull-down position, since it has a low profile and good gun depression.
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| Coaxial || 1,890 (63) || 600 || N/A || N/A
 
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== Usage in battles ==
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Alternatively, it may also be beneficial to employ a more ambush-based playstyle with this vehicle. But since this requires more close-up engagements, be careful to avoid lengthy brawls, where the Waffenträger's poor armour and mobility will hinder it greatly. Positioning is still very important. Finally, it may be sometimes possible to engage the enemy while orienting the vehicle sideways or backwards. This protects the engine and transmission from enemy fire, and prevents the protruding frontal optics ports from interfering with gun traverse and depression.
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In ground RB, T-34E can be used in many styles, it can be a flanker, sometimes it can be a sniper, and most times it can be a front line attacker. But no matter what style you play, always angle the armour to avoid being penetrated and remember that you always have the choice to cover the tank with decorations to further confuse the enemy.
 
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
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! colspan="2" | Mobility
 
! Protection
 
! Protection
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! colspan="2" | Firepower
 
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| I
 
| I
 
| Tracks
 
| Tracks
 
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| Parts
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| Parts  
 
| Horizontal Drive
 
| Horizontal Drive
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| BR-350SP
 
 
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| II
 
| II
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| Suspension
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| Suspension  
 
| Brake System
 
| Brake System
 
| FPE
 
| FPE
 
| Adjustment of Fire
 
| Adjustment of Fire
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| BR-350B (MD-8 fuze)
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| HLGr 39
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| III
 
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| Crew Replenishment
 
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| BR-350P
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| IV
 
| IV
 
| Transmission
 
| Transmission
 
| Engine
 
| Engine
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| PzGr 40/43
 
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| BP-350A
 
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| D-350A
 
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After the ''Parts'' modification, the most useful upgrades are the ''Horizontal Drive'', ''Adjustment of Fire''<sub>,</sub> and ''Mobility'' modules.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Bouncy armour
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* 88 mm PaK 43 gun power can destroy any vehicle it meets
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* Decent top speed
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* Full rotating turret with the powerful gun
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* Several ammunition choices
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* Decent -8° gun depression for hull-down positions
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* Useful primary shells
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* Low profile construction makes the vehicle easily conceal
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* Premium tank (extra income)
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* Suspension and tracks cover a good portion of the lower side hull for protection
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* All AP and APHE shells over-pierce the tank without dealing much damage due to the very thin armour
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Rare to acquire
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* Open-top turret crew vulnerable to shrapnel, machine guns, air strikes, artillery, and such
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* No smoke launcher
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* Gun recoil can jump the vehicle dramatically, throwing off the aim and bouncing the vehicle position
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* Lack of spaced frontal armour
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* Very thin overall armour of between 10-20 mm
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* 5 mm roof armour means an aerial attack is deadly
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* 5 mm belly armour makes any HE shots able to penetrate through the bottom
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* Front-mounted engine and transmission means both can be knocked out with a front shot, immobilizing the vehicle
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* Poor acceleration
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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In as early as 1942, the German Wehrmacht was looking for a way to make large anti-tank guns easier to deploy and transport, but also should be able to fire the gun and fight on the front lines. Four major German companies (Krupp, Rheinmetall, Borsig, and Ardelt) took part in a tender of the Waffenamt (German Army Weapons Agency) in 1943 for the project. Then, in April 1944, the four companies presented their prototypes. With Krupp and Steyr working together on a design, and Rheinmetall and Borsig on their own. Both designs envisaged placing the 8.8 cm PaK 43 L / 71 in a lightly armoured, upwardly open, rotatable tower mounted on a hull of a Raupenschlepper Ost (a tracked artillery mover) to keep costs down and reduce complexity. However, the decision was made for the prototype of the last company, Ardelt, therefore making the Krupp-Steyr design unwanted by the Waffenamt.
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Revision as of 19:41, 8 August 2020

Rank IV USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Tu-1 Pack
Waffenträger
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Waffenträger
Germany flag.png Germany
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.7 5.7 5.7
Class:
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Description

GarageImage Waffentrager.jpg


The Waffenträger Krupp-Steyr mit Pak 43 is a rank III German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.71 "New E.R.A".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 10 mm (76°), 20 mm (46°) Front glacis
5 mm (46°) Engine grille
20 mm (44°) Lower glacis
10 mm (46°) Crew ports 		10 mm (25°) Top
10 mm Bottom 		10 mm (26°) Top
10 mm (15°) Bottom 		5 mm
Turret 20 mm (41°) Turret front
20 mm (5-46°) Gun mantlet 		10 mm (22-24°) 10 mm (24°) N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick and tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 5 mm thick.
  • A 10 mm structural steel plate covers the engine from the crew.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 8 16.3 199 267 12.21 16.38
Realistic 35 7 124 140 7.61 8.59

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: PaK 43 (88 mm)
88 mm PaK 43 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 30 -8°/+45° ±180° N/A 11.33 15.68 19.04 21.06 22.40 11.05 9.78 9.01 8.50
Realistic 8.33 9.80 11.90 13.16 14.00

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
PzGr 39/43 APCBC 237 234 222 207 194 181
PzGr 40/43 APCR 279 273 252 227 205 185
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 110 110 110 110 110 110
Sprgr.43 HE 14 14 14 14 14 14
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
PzGr 39/43 APCBC 1000 10.2 1.2 14 108.8 48° 63° 71°
PzGr 40/43 APCR 1130 7.3 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 600 7.6 N/A 0.3 1,100 62° 69° 73°
Sprgr.43 HE 820 9.4 0.1 0.5 1,000 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Waffenträger.
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
30 26 (+4) 21 (+9) 16 (+14) 11 (+19) 1 (+29) Right side empty: 21 (+9) No

Usage in battles

Despite its fully-traversable, the Waffenträger is a classic tank destroyer. It has a fantastically powerful gun, which can defeat any heavy tank at this tier, even at long ranges. The shells have great penetration, great explosive filler, and very good velocity. The vehicle even has a better-than-average reload speed. (Note: keep in mind that the Waffenträger is not equipped with any machine guns.)

However, this vehicle also has poor mobility. It's just slow (both forwards and in reverse), especially when stock, and acceleration is poor as well. The tank struggles on slopes, and is completely unsuited for close-up brawling. Another downside to this vehicle is its poor armour setup. Although the armour protection can defend against machine gun fire, any cannon shell will penetrate with ease. The vehicle may also be hullbroken by significantly large shells. And finally, the open-top turret compartment is vulnerable to aircraft and artillery fire. Therefore, it may be necessary to work with SPAA teammates and to find cover under trees or behind buildings.

Given the vehicle's advantages and disadvantages, a good way to play this vehicle is often in a sniping play-style. Staying hidden, keeping distance, and only exposing the vehicle in order to shoot capitalizes on the strength of the vehicle's gun while minimizing the effects of its weak armour. Additionally, it is very easy to hide this vehicle behind cover in a hull-down position, since it has a low profile and good gun depression.

Alternatively, it may also be beneficial to employ a more ambush-based playstyle with this vehicle. But since this requires more close-up engagements, be careful to avoid lengthy brawls, where the Waffenträger's poor armour and mobility will hinder it greatly. Positioning is still very important. Finally, it may be sometimes possible to engage the enemy while orienting the vehicle sideways or backwards. This protects the engine and transmission from enemy fire, and prevents the protruding frontal optics ports from interfering with gun traverse and depression.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire HLGr 39
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine PzGr 40/43

After the Parts modification, the most useful upgrades are the Horizontal Drive, Adjustment of Fire, and Mobility modules.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 88 mm PaK 43 gun power can destroy any vehicle it meets
  • Full rotating turret with the powerful gun
  • Decent -8° gun depression for hull-down positions
  • Low profile construction makes the vehicle easily conceal
  • Suspension and tracks cover a good portion of the lower side hull for protection
  • All AP and APHE shells over-pierce the tank without dealing much damage due to the very thin armour

Cons:

  • Open-top turret crew vulnerable to shrapnel, machine guns, air strikes, artillery, and such
  • Gun recoil can jump the vehicle dramatically, throwing off the aim and bouncing the vehicle position
  • Very thin overall armour of between 10-20 mm
  • 5 mm roof armour means an aerial attack is deadly
  • 5 mm belly armour makes any HE shots able to penetrate through the bottom
  • Front-mounted engine and transmission means both can be knocked out with a front shot, immobilizing the vehicle
  • Poor acceleration

History

Development

In as early as 1942, the German Wehrmacht was looking for a way to make large anti-tank guns easier to deploy and transport, but also should be able to fire the gun and fight on the front lines. Four major German companies (Krupp, Rheinmetall, Borsig, and Ardelt) took part in a tender of the Waffenamt (German Army Weapons Agency) in 1943 for the project. Then, in April 1944, the four companies presented their prototypes. With Krupp and Steyr working together on a design, and Rheinmetall and Borsig on their own. Both designs envisaged placing the 8.8 cm PaK 43 L / 71 in a lightly armoured, upwardly open, rotatable tower mounted on a hull of a Raupenschlepper Ost (a tracked artillery mover) to keep costs down and reduce complexity. However, the decision was made for the prototype of the last company, Ardelt, therefore making the Krupp-Steyr design unwanted by the Waffenamt.

Combat usage

Due to the design losing the tender, the tank never saw mass production or combat service. Only one wooden model and one prototype were manufactured on September 2, 1944.

Media

The Shooting Range #74 - Metal Beasts section at 00:36 discusses the Waffenträger.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Germany tank destroyers
Pz. I Derivatives  Panzerjäger I
Pz. II Derivatives  15cm sIG 33 B Sfl
Pz. 38(t) Derivatives  Marder III · Marder III H · Jagdpanzer 38(t)
Pz. III Derivatives  StuG III A · StuG III F · StuG III G · StuH 42 G
Pz. IV Derivatives  Jagdpanzer IV · Panzer IV/70(A) · Panzer IV/70(V) · Dicker Max · Nashorn · Brummbär · VFW
Pz. V Derivatives  Jagdpanther G1 · Bfw. Jagdpanther G1
Pz. VI Derivatives  Sturer Emil · Elefant · Ferdinand · 38 cm Sturmmörser · Jagdtiger
Wheeled/Half-track  8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. · Sd.Kfz.251/9 · Sd.Kfz.251/10 · Sd.Kfz.251/22 · Sd.Kfz.234/3 · Sd.Kfz.234/4 · 15 cm Pz.W.42
ATGM Carrier  RakJPz 2 · RakJPz 2 (HOT) · Wiesel 1A2
Other  Waffenträger · M109G · JPz 4-5 · Raketenautomat · VT1-2

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