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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.33]].
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Similar to its hybrid predecessors, the Yak-17 is arguably one of the most underestimated aircraft in the game. Although its stat card reveals what would be considered "sub-par" performance and armament, the Yak-17 is both a unique and deadly fighter. Unlike its propeller-driven counterparts, this first generation jet aircraft wields the ability to hold on to energy in a straight line, whereas prop aircraft will slowly lose speed. This, coupled with its good rate of turn, allows the Yak-17 to defend itself against both propeller and jet-powered aircraft, which is what it will normally face in all game modes.
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The Yak-17's major faults include a low top speed, poor acceleration, little armour protection, and small ammunition pool. These collectively make this aircraft harder to use than other first-generation jet aircraft such as the [[He 162 A-2]], the [[Meteor F Mk 3]], and the [[F-80A-5]]. Although it is driven by a jet engine, it is important to recognize the faults and oddities within this aircraft series, as they are not representative of the traditional "jet fighter" at all. The Yak-17 is most easily viewed as a late-war [[Yak-3]] powered by a jet engine and with different armament. The Yak-17 differs from the previous [[Yak-15]] and [[Yak-15P]] in that it has a different cockpit layout, a different gun sight, and tricycle landing gear. The Yak-17 also carries two fuel pods on the end of each wing, similar to the [[MiG-9_/L|MiG-9/Late]]. Having a tricycle landing gear set instead of the previous two-wheeled design allows the Yak-17 to slow down easily when landing due to the drag of the extra wheel, and land easier, as there is no chance of the aircraft flipping from excessive braking. Thus, the Yak-17 performs almost identically to the Yak-15 and Yak-15P as its "stat card" shows.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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|-
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! Stock
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| 720 || 700 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 19.3 || 20.2 || 19.9 || 19.4 || rowspan="2" | 366
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|-
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! Upgraded
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| ___ || 755 || __._ || 18.5 || __._ || 23
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|-
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|}
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==== Details ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="6" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
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|-
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| X || X || ✓ || X || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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|-
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || N/A || N/A || 320 || ~11 || ~8
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
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|-
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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|-
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| < 380 || < 420 || < 500 || N/A
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 0 m || 910 kgf || N/A
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
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* 55 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
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* 8.5 mm Steel plate in pilot's seat.
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|NS-23 (23 mm)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
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== Usage in battles ==
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=== Arcade Battles ===
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In Arcade battles, the Yak-17 is capable of breaking up a "furball" due to its impressive turn time. This, coupled with its hard-hitting cannons, makes any Yak-17 pilot an indispensable asset to any arcade team.
  
== Weaponry ==
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=== Realistic Battles ===
=== Offensive weaponry ===
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In Realistic battles, climbing with this aircraft at the start of a match is not always the best course of action, considering how poor the Yak-17's rate of climb is. Instead of the traditional slow angled climb, the Yak-17 is best used in a "zoom climb", where once enough energy has been built up at a low altitude, the Yak-17 pilot will quickly pitch up, thus gaining a lot of altitude quickly. This way, if attacked during the first few minutes of the match, the Yak-17 still wields some energy, whereas had the Yak-17 been slowly climbing, it would have had to face another aircraft's guns.
''Describe the offensive weaponry of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''
 
  
=== Suspended weaponry ===
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In order to shake an enemy, especially one that is propeller driven, dive low to the ground to ensure your assailant's speed only decreases. This is called a "speed trap", and can either be followed by a "hammerhead" attack or a continuation of the escape. This tactic of utilizing the Yak-17's ability to hold on to energy in a straight line is negated when facing other jet aircraft who wield the same ability. This is where the Yak-17's dog fighting abilities come into play. Because it is so similar to the Yak-3 and the previous Yakovlev jets, the Yak-17 retains some of their manoeuvrability characteristics, namely their turn times. This facet often proves an indispensable one, as other first generation jets will not be able to maintain a tight enough turn circle.
''Describe the aircraft's suspended weapons: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
 
  
=== Defensive weaponry ===
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=== General Usage ===
''Defensive weaponry with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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Like its predecessors, the Yak-17 is severely hampered in its damage output due to its reliance on a single set of 23 mm NS-23 cannons, with 120 shells total. It is possible to expend this pool in seconds. The Yak-17 shares this downfall with aircraft like the [[Ki-200]] and the [[Me_163_B|Me 163]]. Firing in small, accurate bursts negates this problem, and is the most efficient way of destroying enemies. The 23 mm shells these cannons fire are extremely deadly when they hit, often ripping enemies apart on impact.
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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To use the cannons most effectively, only fire when you are close to your target. The reason for this is twofold: First, the limited ammo means you want your shots to count. Being close to your target will give your cannons the highest chance of hitting. The second reason is because of the ballistics of the 23 mm shells - their muzzle velocity is not very high, meaning you have to lead your targets by quite a bit. If you are closer to your target, you won't have to lead them by quite as much, though it will still have to be more than other cannons.
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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With some practice, it is possible to consistently get 3 fighter kills with one load of ammunition in realistic battles. Using the Air Targets belt is the most effective. However, attacking bombers is best left to other planes with more firepower, since the Yak-17 does not have the firepower or ammunition to reliably kill heavy bombers without sustaining heavy damage. Heavy fighters such as the [[F7F-1]] may also take longer to destroy than other fighters.
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Tier
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance
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! Survivability
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! Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage Repair
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|
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|
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| Offensive 23 mm
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|-
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| II
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|
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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|
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|-
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| III
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| Wing Repair
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|
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|
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| New 23 mm Cannons
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|-
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| IV
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|
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| Engine
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| Cover
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|
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|-
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|}
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* Obtaining the "Offensive 23 mm" modification is the best choice for your first module, as it allows for more flexibility in armament. Next, try to obtain the "compressor" and "engine" upgrades, as they both increase engine thrust which is essential in escaping from a dogfight turned sour. Finally, obtain the rest of the performance upgrades as they will all collectively increase top speed, turn time, and rate of climb.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Excellent turn time for a jet fighter
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* Good armament
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* Very good roll rate
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* Fairly responsive at higher speeds
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Slow compared to other jet fighters in BR
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* Low ammunition count
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* Poor rate of climb
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* Poor acceleration
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* Minimal armour protection
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* Inability to carry a payload
  
== Historical part ==
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== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''
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''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''Прекрасным дополнением к статье станут видеогайды, а также скриншоты из игры и фотографии.''
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{{Youtube-gallery|zfACMogNw7w|War Thunder Realistic: Yak-17 [Extreme!]}}
  
== Read also ==
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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''
 
  
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== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
* ''page on aircraft encyclopedia;''
 
 
* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
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{{USSR jet aircraft}}

Latest revision as of 08:51, 1 November 2019

Yak-17
yak-17.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
7.0/6.7/6.3BR
1 personCrew
2.9 tTake-off weight
Flight characteristics
Klimov RD-10Engine
JetType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
765 km/hStructural
450 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannonWeapon 1
120 roundsAmmunition
600 shots/minFire rate
Economy
92 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
370 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png13 000 / 16 367/11 000 / 13 849/4 050 / 5 098Repair
110 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
370 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
1 700 Ge icon.pngAces
× (196) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle

Description

GarageImage Yak-17.jpg


The Yak-17 is a rank V Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB), 6.7 (RB), and 7.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.33.

Similar to its hybrid predecessors, the Yak-17 is arguably one of the most underestimated aircraft in the game. Although its stat card reveals what would be considered "sub-par" performance and armament, the Yak-17 is both a unique and deadly fighter. Unlike its propeller-driven counterparts, this first generation jet aircraft wields the ability to hold on to energy in a straight line, whereas prop aircraft will slowly lose speed. This, coupled with its good rate of turn, allows the Yak-17 to defend itself against both propeller and jet-powered aircraft, which is what it will normally face in all game modes.

The Yak-17's major faults include a low top speed, poor acceleration, little armour protection, and small ammunition pool. These collectively make this aircraft harder to use than other first-generation jet aircraft such as the He 162 A-2, the Meteor F Mk 3, and the F-80A-5. Although it is driven by a jet engine, it is important to recognize the faults and oddities within this aircraft series, as they are not representative of the traditional "jet fighter" at all. The Yak-17 is most easily viewed as a late-war Yak-3 powered by a jet engine and with different armament. The Yak-17 differs from the previous Yak-15 and Yak-15P in that it has a different cockpit layout, a different gun sight, and tricycle landing gear. The Yak-17 also carries two fuel pods on the end of each wing, similar to the MiG-9/Late. Having a tricycle landing gear set instead of the previous two-wheeled design allows the Yak-17 to slow down easily when landing due to the drag of the extra wheel, and land easier, as there is no chance of the aircraft flipping from excessive braking. Thus, the Yak-17 performs almost identically to the Yak-15 and Yak-15P as its "stat card" shows.

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 4,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 720 700 19.3 20.2 19.9 19.4 366
Upgraded ___ 755 __._ 18.5 __._ 23

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
N/A N/A 320 ~11 ~8
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 380 < 420 < 500 N/A
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
0 m 910 kgf N/A

Survivability and armour

  • 55 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
  • 8.5 mm Steel plate in pilot's seat.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: NS-23 (23 mm)

The Yak-17 is armed with:

  • 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)

Usage in battles

Arcade Battles

In Arcade battles, the Yak-17 is capable of breaking up a "furball" due to its impressive turn time. This, coupled with its hard-hitting cannons, makes any Yak-17 pilot an indispensable asset to any arcade team.

Realistic Battles

In Realistic battles, climbing with this aircraft at the start of a match is not always the best course of action, considering how poor the Yak-17's rate of climb is. Instead of the traditional slow angled climb, the Yak-17 is best used in a "zoom climb", where once enough energy has been built up at a low altitude, the Yak-17 pilot will quickly pitch up, thus gaining a lot of altitude quickly. This way, if attacked during the first few minutes of the match, the Yak-17 still wields some energy, whereas had the Yak-17 been slowly climbing, it would have had to face another aircraft's guns.

In order to shake an enemy, especially one that is propeller driven, dive low to the ground to ensure your assailant's speed only decreases. This is called a "speed trap", and can either be followed by a "hammerhead" attack or a continuation of the escape. This tactic of utilizing the Yak-17's ability to hold on to energy in a straight line is negated when facing other jet aircraft who wield the same ability. This is where the Yak-17's dog fighting abilities come into play. Because it is so similar to the Yak-3 and the previous Yakovlev jets, the Yak-17 retains some of their manoeuvrability characteristics, namely their turn times. This facet often proves an indispensable one, as other first generation jets will not be able to maintain a tight enough turn circle.

General Usage

Like its predecessors, the Yak-17 is severely hampered in its damage output due to its reliance on a single set of 23 mm NS-23 cannons, with 120 shells total. It is possible to expend this pool in seconds. The Yak-17 shares this downfall with aircraft like the Ki-200 and the Me 163. Firing in small, accurate bursts negates this problem, and is the most efficient way of destroying enemies. The 23 mm shells these cannons fire are extremely deadly when they hit, often ripping enemies apart on impact.

To use the cannons most effectively, only fire when you are close to your target. The reason for this is twofold: First, the limited ammo means you want your shots to count. Being close to your target will give your cannons the highest chance of hitting. The second reason is because of the ballistics of the 23 mm shells - their muzzle velocity is not very high, meaning you have to lead your targets by quite a bit. If you are closer to your target, you won't have to lead them by quite as much, though it will still have to be more than other cannons.

With some practice, it is possible to consistently get 3 fighter kills with one load of ammunition in realistic battles. Using the Air Targets belt is the most effective. However, attacking bombers is best left to other planes with more firepower, since the Yak-17 does not have the firepower or ammunition to reliably kill heavy bombers without sustaining heavy damage. Heavy fighters such as the F7F-1 may also take longer to destroy than other fighters.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Offensive 23 mm
II Compressor Airframe
III Wing Repair New 23 mm Cannons
IV Engine Cover
  • Obtaining the "Offensive 23 mm" modification is the best choice for your first module, as it allows for more flexibility in armament. Next, try to obtain the "compressor" and "engine" upgrades, as they both increase engine thrust which is essential in escaping from a dogfight turned sour. Finally, obtain the rest of the performance upgrades as they will all collectively increase top speed, turn time, and rate of climb.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent turn time for a jet fighter
  • Good armament
  • Very good roll rate
  • Fairly responsive at higher speeds

Cons:

  • Slow compared to other jet fighters in BR
  • Low ammunition count
  • Poor rate of climb
  • Poor acceleration
  • Minimal armour protection
  • Inability to carry a payload

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

War Thunder Realistic: Yak-17 [Extreme!]

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


USSR jet aircraft
Yakovlev  Yak-15 · Yak-15P · Yak-17 · Yak-23 · Yak-30
Mikoyan-Gurevich  MiG-9 · MiG-9 Late · MiG-15bis · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis ISH · MiG-17 · MiG-17AS · MiG-19PT · MiG-21 F-13
Lavochkin  La-174 · La-15 · La-200
Ilyushin  IL-28 · IL-28Sh
Tupolev  Tu-14T