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{{About
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French twin-engine fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French twin-engine fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
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<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
|-
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,000 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
| 679 || 659 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.4 || 26.5 || 11.7 || 11.7 || 700
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,000 m)
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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! Stock
! RB
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| 679 || 659 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.4 || 26.5 || 11.7 || 11.7 || rowspan="2" | 700
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
|-
 
|-
| 746 || 710 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 23.2 || 24.0 || 23.6 || 15.4 || 700
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! Upgraded
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| 746 || 710 || 23.2 || 24.0 || 23.6 || 15.4
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
====Details====
 
====Details====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Combat flaps
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
! Take-off flaps
 
! Landing flaps
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|}
 
|}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
|-
! +
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
! -
 
 
|-
 
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 520 || ~11 || ~6
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 520 || 520 || 320 || ~11 || ~6
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
|-
 
|-
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
|-
 
|-
| < 380 || < 380 || < 440 || > 340
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| < 380 || < 380 || < 540 || > 340
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front and rear of the cockpit.
 
* 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front and rear of the cockpit.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{Specs-Economy}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}
 
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{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)}}
 
{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)
 
* 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)
  
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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As a heavy fighter, it is most important to side climb as most enemies will outclimb it. The best tactic is BnR, as its great acceleration can allow you to make fast attacks against unsuspecting enemy fighters. The best tactic is to have squad mates drain an enemy of his energy and move in for an easy kill. The aircraft's acceleration combined with the top speed makes it hard to stay on an enemy's tail for long as you will likely overshoot.
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The VB.10C-1, like most heavy fighters, is reliant on side climbing to engage enemy fighters, however this isn't the only way to play the VB.10C-1, if you decide to side climb and wait for enemy planes to drop down to lower altitudes they will find themselves in peril when a experienced pilot in a VB.10C-1 comes booming past with its quick dive rate and deadly armament of 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons. The best tactic when flying solo is Boom & Zoom and play as the team's support fighter, as its great acceleration and heavy weight can allow you to make fast attacks against unsuspecting enemy fighters at lower altitudes that are pre-occupied with fighting friendly aircraft. The heavy weight can also help carry the planes speed when extending and helps retain a bit of speed when going back into a climb, be aware however that the VB.10C-1's size and weight makes it a considerable target if you happen to miss your engagement. The best tactic when flying in a group of two or more is to help teammates that are struggling in a dogfight with enemy fighters, as a large target the VB.10C-1 can distract enemy fighters and outrun most using its advantage in weight and energy which allows teammates to slide onto the enemies six o'clock and finish them off.
If you need to do a quick turn (! Drains a lot energy !), set combat flaps and reduce the power of the engine (50%) -> then turn and close the combat flaps when half finished.   
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If you need to do a quick turn, set combat flaps and reduce the power of the engine to around 50%, then turn and close the combat flaps when half-finished with your manoeuvre. Be aware that turning in the VB.10C-1 is a way to intentionally or unintentionally bleed off any built-up energy. Conserve energy when possible in the VB.10C-1 as it lacks the capabilitys to dogfight other fighters in fast or slow turning engagements.   
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
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|-
 
|-
 
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>2 gears || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>2 gears || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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|}
 
 
===Modules===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="1" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
| I
 
| Fuselage repair
 
| Radiator
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
| II
 
|
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
|
 
|-
 
| III
 
| Wings repair
 
| Engine
 
|
 
| Offensive 20 mm
 
|-
 
| IV
 
|
 
| Engine injection
 
| Cover
 
| New 20 mm cannons
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Very fast at medium to low altitudes
 
* Very fast at medium to low altitudes
* Average climb rate (inferior to German/Italian counterparts at its BR)
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* Average climb rate (inferior to contemporary German/Italian counterparts)
 
* Decent ammo count
 
* Decent ammo count
* Good turn rate (can manoeuvre with Bf-109s)
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* Good turn rate (can manoeuvre with Bf 109s)
 
* Brutal acceleration in a dive  
 
* Brutal acceleration in a dive  
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* Quite strong combat flaps
 
* Good horizontal energy retention
 
* Good horizontal energy retention
* Good cockpit visibility (important for SB players)
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* Good cockpit visibility (important for simulator battle players)
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* If one engine/propeller fails the VB still flies very well with the other one; so you can easily return to the airfield for repairs
  
'''Cons:'''
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'''Cons'''
* Bad acceleration rate (Except in a dive)
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* Bad acceleration rate (except in a dive)
 
* Awful vertical turner
 
* Awful vertical turner
 
* Rudder is unresponsive at high speeds
 
* Rudder is unresponsive at high speeds
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* Similar to Do-335, guns can be difficult to align at high speeds
 
* Similar to Do-335, guns can be difficult to align at high speeds
 
* Bad roll rate is made even worse with unresponsive rudder
 
* Bad roll rate is made even worse with unresponsive rudder
* Guns are mounted far outside the center, so it's hard to hit small targets with full force (try convergence point at ~600m)
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* Guns are mounted far outside the centre, so it's hard to hit small targets with full force (try convergence point at ~600 m)
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* All guns have a 150 round magazine, if one gun is empty... all guns are empty; so watch your ammo stats
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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{{Youtube-gallery|NuacwZrhw3M|'''The Shooting Range #159''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:28 discusses the VB.10.}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
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* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
 
* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
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{{AirManufacturer Arsenal}}
 
{{France twin-engine fighters and attackers}}
 
{{France twin-engine fighters and attackers}}

Revision as of 06:14, 25 December 2020

RANK 6 BRITAIN
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This page is about the French twin-engine fighter VB.10C-1. For the other version, see VB.10-02.
VB.10C-1
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GarageImage VB.10C-1.jpg
VB.10C-1
AB RB SB
3.7 4.0 3.7
Research:18 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:47 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The VB.10C-1 is a rank III French twin-engine fighter with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/SB) and 4.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 7 000 m710 km/h
Turn time24 s
Max altitude11 000 m
EngineHispano-Suiza 12Zars-15
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight10 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 679 659 11000 25.4 26.5 11.7 11.7 700
Upgraded 746 710 23.2 24.0 23.6 15.4

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
820 450 520 520 320 ~11 ~6
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 380 < 380 < 540 > 340
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,000 m 1,200 hp 1,536 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
8,000 m 1,120 hp 1,433 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural820 km/h
Gear450 km/h
  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front and rear of the cockpit.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB816 → 1 096 Sl icon.png
RB1 847 → 2 482 Sl icon.png
SB2 651 → 3 562 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications19 900 Rp icon.png
32 600 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost980 Ge icon.png
Crew training13 000 Sl icon.png
Experts47 000 Sl icon.png
Aces400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces280 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
50 / 130 / 270 % Sl icon.png
136 / 136 / 136 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
2 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
2 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_404_new_gun
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Main article: Hispano 404 (20 mm)

The VB.10C-1 is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)

The four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.

Usage in battles

The VB.10C-1, like most heavy fighters, is reliant on side climbing to engage enemy fighters, however this isn't the only way to play the VB.10C-1, if you decide to side climb and wait for enemy planes to drop down to lower altitudes they will find themselves in peril when a experienced pilot in a VB.10C-1 comes booming past with its quick dive rate and deadly armament of 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons. The best tactic when flying solo is Boom & Zoom and play as the team's support fighter, as its great acceleration and heavy weight can allow you to make fast attacks against unsuspecting enemy fighters at lower altitudes that are pre-occupied with fighting friendly aircraft. The heavy weight can also help carry the planes speed when extending and helps retain a bit of speed when going back into a climb, be aware however that the VB.10C-1's size and weight makes it a considerable target if you happen to miss your engagement. The best tactic when flying in a group of two or more is to help teammates that are struggling in a dogfight with enemy fighters, as a large target the VB.10C-1 can distract enemy fighters and outrun most using its advantage in weight and energy which allows teammates to slide onto the enemies six o'clock and finish them off.

If you need to do a quick turn, set combat flaps and reduce the power of the engine to around 50%, then turn and close the combat flaps when half-finished with your manoeuvre. Be aware that turning in the VB.10C-1 is a way to intentionally or unintentionally bleed off any built-up energy. Conserve energy when possible in the VB.10C-1 as it lacks the capabilitys to dogfight other fighters in fast or slow turning engagements.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Controllable
2 gears
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very fast at medium to low altitudes
  • Average climb rate (inferior to contemporary German/Italian counterparts)
  • Decent ammo count
  • Good turn rate (can manoeuvre with Bf 109s)
  • Brutal acceleration in a dive
  • Quite strong combat flaps
  • Good horizontal energy retention
  • Good cockpit visibility (important for simulator battle players)
  • If one engine/propeller fails the VB still flies very well with the other one; so you can easily return to the airfield for repairs

Cons

  • Bad acceleration rate (except in a dive)
  • Awful vertical turner
  • Rudder is unresponsive at high speeds
  • Very heavy feeling in the air
  • Stock belts are unimpressive
  • Stock guns are inaccurate
  • Similar to Do-335, guns can be difficult to align at high speeds
  • Bad roll rate is made even worse with unresponsive rudder
  • Guns are mounted far outside the centre, so it's hard to hit small targets with full force (try convergence point at ~600 m)
  • All guns have a 150 round magazine, if one gun is empty... all guns are empty; so watch your ammo stats

History

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Media

See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Arsenal Aeronautical (Arsenal de l'Aéronautique)
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France twin-engine fighters and strike aircraft
Twin-engine fighters  Potez 630 · Potez 631 · VB.10C-1 · VB.10-02
Strike aircraft  Br.693AB2 · ▄AD-4 · ▄AD-4NA