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The Arsenal VB-10 was a continuation in development from the earlier [[V.G.33C-1|VG-33]] aircraft designed during the early war period but unable to be manufactured in great numbers before the Battle of France which began in May 1940.
 
The Arsenal VB-10 was a continuation in development from the earlier [[V.G.33C-1|VG-33]] aircraft designed during the early war period but unable to be manufactured in great numbers before the Battle of France which began in May 1940.
  
Under the Vichy government, the prior prototypes were reconsidered, and updated designs needed to be produced. Thus, the VB-10’s distinctive design of liquid cooled tandem engines were born. This was a method of circumnavigating the lack of a 2,000 HP engine with two 1,000 HP engines<ref>Hartmann, G. (2007) ''L’Arsenal de l’aéronautique''. p. 4-7. [pdf] Available at: <<nowiki>http://www.hydroretro.net</nowiki>> [Accessed 13 August 2021].</ref>. The new design was higher performance than two similar American interceptor projects; the XP-62<ref>Bowers, P. (1979) ''Curtiss aircraft, 1907-1947.'' London: Putnam & Company Ltd, pp. 327–331.</ref> and XP-67<ref>Francillon, R. (1988) ''McDonnell Douglas aircraft since 1920''. London: Putnam Aeronautical Books, p. 372.</ref>, the twinned engine system producing a higher top speed and competitive rates of climb and service range during a test flight in July 1945.<ref>Green, W., Swanborough, G. (2001) ''The Complete Book of Fighters: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Every Fighter Aircraft Built and Flown''. London: Salamander Books, pp. 30-31.</ref>
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Under the Vichy government, the prior prototypes were reconsidered, and updated designs needed to be produced. Thus, the VB-10’s distinctive design of liquid cooled tandem engines were born. This was a method of circumnavigating the lack of a 2,000 HP engine with two 1,000 HP engines<ref>Hartmann, G. (2007) ''L’Arsenal de l’aéronautique''. p. 4-7. [pdf] Available at: <<nowiki>http://www.hydroretro.net</nowiki>> [Accessed 13 August 2021].</ref>. The new design was higher performance than two similar American interceptor projects; the XP-62<ref>Bowers, P. (1979) ''Curtiss aircraft, 1907-1947.'' London: Putnam & Company Ltd, pp. 327–331.</ref> and XP-67<ref>Francillon, R. (1988) ''McDonnell Douglas aircraft since 1920''. London: Putnam Aeronautical Books, p. 372.</ref>, the twinned engine system producing a higher top speed and competitive rates of climb and service range during a test flight in July 1945.<ref name=":0">Green, W., Swanborough, G. (2001) ''The Complete Book of Fighters: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Every Fighter Aircraft Built and Flown''. London: Salamander Books, pp. 30-31.</ref>
  
 
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An initial order for 200 aircraft was placed after a test flight of the second prototype in September 1946 to enter service post-war, though this was reduced to 50 within three years. The first VB-10 took flight on 3<sup>rd</sup> November 1947 with Hispano-Suiza HS 12Z Ars 15/16 engines and the now standard armament for the prototype, four 20 mm cannons, replacing the prototypes' prior 23.7 mm machine guns.
 
An initial order for 200 aircraft was placed after a test flight of the second prototype in September 1946 to enter service post-war, though this was reduced to 50 within three years. The first VB-10 took flight on 3<sup>rd</sup> November 1947 with Hispano-Suiza HS 12Z Ars 15/16 engines and the now standard armament for the prototype, four 20 mm cannons, replacing the prototypes' prior 23.7 mm machine guns.
  
The order was cancelled in September 1948 after just four of the aircraft were completed and tested. During the tests, mechanical failures caused two serious crashes, one of which was fatal and the aircraft were scrapped. The French Air Force would rely on foreign Allied fighter aircraft until the national production of jet-powered fighters began.<ref>Green, W., Swanborough, G. (2001) ''The Complete Book of Fighters: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Every Fighter Aircraft Built and Flown''. London: Salamander Books, pp. 30-31.</ref>
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The order was cancelled in September 1948 after just four of the aircraft were completed and tested. During the tests, mechanical failures caused two serious crashes, one of which was fatal and the aircraft were scrapped. The French Air Force would rely on foreign Allied fighter aircraft until the national production of jet-powered fighters began.<ref name=":0" />
  
 
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This page is about the French twin-engine fighter VB.10C-1. For the other version, see VB.10-02.
VB.10C-1
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GarageImage VB.10C-1.jpg
VB.10C-1
AB RB SB
3.7 4.0 3.7
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Description

The VB.10C-1 is a rank III French twin-engine fighter with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/SB) and 4.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 7 000 m710 km/h
Turn time24 s
Max altitude11 000 m
EngineHispano-Suiza 12Zars-15
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight10 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 679 659 11000 25.4 26.5 11.7 11.7 700
Upgraded 739 710 22.8 24.0 19.3 15.4

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
820 450 498 469 320 ~11 ~6
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 380 < 380 < 540 > 340
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,000 m 1,200 hp 1,536 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
8,000 m 1,120 hp 1,433 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural820 km/h
Gear450 km/h
  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front and rear of the cockpit.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB816 → 1 096 Sl icon.png
RB1 847 → 2 482 Sl icon.png
SB2 651 → 3 562 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications19 900 Rp icon.png
32 600 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost980 Ge icon.png
Crew training13 000 Sl icon.png
Experts47 000 Sl icon.png
Aces400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces280 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
50 / 130 / 270 % Sl icon.png
136 / 136 / 136 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
2 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
2 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 600 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_404_new_gun
Research:
1 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 600 Sl icon.png
135 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Main article: Hispano 404 (20 mm)

The VB.10C-1 is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 600 total)

The four cannons are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty.

Usage in battles

The VB.10C-1, like most heavy fighters, is reliant on side climbing to engage enemy fighters, however this isn't the only way to play the VB.10C-1, if you decide to side climb and wait for enemy planes to drop down to lower altitudes they will find themselves in peril when a experienced pilot in a VB.10C-1 comes booming past with its quick dive rate and deadly armament of 4 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannons. The best tactic when flying solo is Boom & Zoom and play as the team's support fighter, as its great acceleration and heavy weight can allow you to make fast attacks against unsuspecting enemy fighters at lower altitudes that are pre-occupied with fighting friendly aircraft. The heavy weight can also help carry the planes speed when extending and helps retain a bit of speed when going back into a climb, be aware however that the VB.10C-1's size and weight makes it a considerable target if you happen to miss your engagement. The best tactic when flying in a group of two or more is to help teammates that are struggling in a dogfight with enemy fighters, as a large target the VB.10C-1 can distract enemy fighters and outrun most using its advantage in weight and energy which allows teammates to slide onto the enemies six o'clock and finish them off.

If you need to do a quick turn, set combat flaps and reduce the power of the engine to around 50%, then turn and close the combat flaps when half-finished with your manoeuvre. Be aware that turning in the VB.10C-1 is a way to intentionally or unintentionally bleed off any built-up energy. Conserve energy when possible in the VB.10C-1 as it lacks the capabilitys to dogfight other fighters in fast or slow turning engagements.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Controllable
2 gears
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very fast at medium to low altitudes
  • Average climb rate (inferior to contemporary German/Italian counterparts)
  • Decent ammo count
  • Good turn rate (can manoeuvre with Bf 109s)
  • Brutal acceleration in a dive
  • Quite strong combat flaps
  • Good horizontal energy retention
  • Good cockpit visibility (important for simulator battle players)
  • If one engine/propeller fails the VB still flies very well with the other one; so you can easily return to the airfield for repairs

Cons

  • Bad acceleration rate (except in a dive)
  • Awful vertical turner
  • Rudder is unresponsive at high speeds
  • Very heavy feeling in the air
  • Stock belts are unimpressive
  • Stock guns are inaccurate
  • Similar to Do-335, guns can be difficult to align at high speeds
  • Bad roll rate is made even worse with unresponsive rudder
  • Guns are mounted far outside the centre, so it's hard to hit small targets with full force (try convergence point at ~600 m)
  • All guns have a 150 round magazine, if one gun is empty... all guns are empty; so watch your ammo stats

History

Development

The Arsenal VB-10 was a continuation in development from the earlier VG-33 aircraft designed during the early war period but unable to be manufactured in great numbers before the Battle of France which began in May 1940.

Under the Vichy government, the prior prototypes were reconsidered, and updated designs needed to be produced. Thus, the VB-10’s distinctive design of liquid cooled tandem engines were born. This was a method of circumnavigating the lack of a 2,000 HP engine with two 1,000 HP engines[1]. The new design was higher performance than two similar American interceptor projects; the XP-62[2] and XP-67[3], the twinned engine system producing a higher top speed and competitive rates of climb and service range during a test flight in July 1945.[4]

Production

An initial order for 200 aircraft was placed after a test flight of the second prototype in September 1946 to enter service post-war, though this was reduced to 50 within three years. The first VB-10 took flight on 3rd November 1947 with Hispano-Suiza HS 12Z Ars 15/16 engines and the now standard armament for the prototype, four 20 mm cannons, replacing the prototypes' prior 23.7 mm machine guns.

The order was cancelled in September 1948 after just four of the aircraft were completed and tested. During the tests, mechanical failures caused two serious crashes, one of which was fatal and the aircraft were scrapped. The French Air Force would rely on foreign Allied fighter aircraft until the national production of jet-powered fighters began.[4]

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

External links

References

  1. Hartmann, G. (2007) L’Arsenal de l’aéronautique. p. 4-7. [pdf] Available at: <http://www.hydroretro.net> [Accessed 13 August 2021].
  2. Bowers, P. (1979) Curtiss aircraft, 1907-1947. London: Putnam & Company Ltd, pp. 327–331.
  3. Francillon, R. (1988) McDonnell Douglas aircraft since 1920. London: Putnam Aeronautical Books, p. 372.
  4. 4.0 4.1 Green, W., Swanborough, G. (2001) The Complete Book of Fighters: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Every Fighter Aircraft Built and Flown. London: Salamander Books, pp. 30-31.
Arsenal Aeronautical (Arsenal de l'Aéronautique)
Fighters  VB.10-02 · VB.10C-1
  V.G.33C-1

France twin-engine fighters and strike aircraft
Twin-engine fighters  Potez 630 · Potez 631 · VB.10C-1 · VB.10-02
Strike aircraft  Br.693AB2 · ▄AD-4 · ▄AD-4NA