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=== Flight performance ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The V.G is a very competitive aircraft at its Battle Rating, with decent climb rate, good speed and good manoeuvrability. Its biggest weaknesses are its lack of ammo and lack of armour. To take advantage of this plane it's best to side climb and exploit any opportunities that are spotted. Both turn fighting and BnZ tactics work well with this plane but turn fighting is the better of the two due to the lack of ammo, it also allows for, generally speaking, a better and cleaner shot. Trigger control is key when flying this. Though not as manoeuvrable as a spitfire, it can sustain a turn fight with an F6F, Yak 7 and Yak 9s, but fighting something like a I-16, you can use your high horsepower engine turn upwards, dodging out of the way of its guns, he will eventually stall out and you can finish him off with your 7.5 mms.
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The V.G.33C-1 is a very competitive aircraft at its battle rating, with decent climb rate, good speed and good manoeuvrability. Its biggest weaknesses are its lack of ammunition and lack of armour. To take advantage of this plane, it's best to side climb and exploit any opportunities that will present themselves. Both turnfighting and BnZ tactics work well with this plane but turnfighting is the better of the two due to the lack of ammo, it also allows for, generally speaking, a better and cleaner shot. Trigger control is key when flying this plane. Though not as manoeuvrable as a spitfire, it can sustain a turnfight with an F6F, Yak-7 or Yak-9, but against a fighter like a I-16, you can use your high horsepower engine in a steep climb while dodging out of the way of its guns, to stall it out so you can finish him off with your 7.5 mm MGs.
  
In Ground forces, with only 17mm of penetration on your Hs 404 at 500m, you are limited with your anti tank capabilities. At the range you are firing at, you can penetrate the roof of the Pz.3 J1, and perhaps the engine deck, depending on angle. Your main target shouldn't be ground forces, but Light attackers and fighters. With your relatively weak armament, bombers will be tough to bring down, and the fragile inline engine cannot take much fire before becoming operational.
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In mixed ground battles, your anti-tank capabilities are limited as the penetration of your 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon is insufficient. Up close, you can penetrate the roof of the Pz.III, and perhaps the engine deck, depending on angle. Your main target shouldn't be ground vehicles, but strike aircraft and fighters. With your relatively weak armament, bombers will be tough to bring down, and the fragile inline engine cannot take much fire before becoming inoperable.
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Impressive efficiency of 4 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns
 
* Impressive efficiency of 4 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns
 
* Amazing climb rate, about as good as the BF-109s
 
* Amazing climb rate, about as good as the BF-109s
* Excellent high altitude performance, better than the P-38G-1 Lightning, at the battle rating of 3.3
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* Excellent high altitude performance
* Amazing energy retention, probably the best for what it faces (up to 3.7 battle rating).
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* Amazing energy retention, probably the best for what it faces
 
* Lightweight can zoom climb away from most enemies in the middle of a dogfight
 
* Lightweight can zoom climb away from most enemies in the middle of a dogfight
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'''Cons:'''
 
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* 20 mm cannon has very small ammo pool
 
* 20 mm cannon has very small ammo pool
 
* 20 mm cannon under-performs until you research new ammunition belts
 
* 20 mm cannon under-performs until you research new ammunition belts
* Too weak, especially the fuel tanks
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* Weak survivability, especially the fuel tanks and inline engine
 
* Below average roll rate
 
* Below average roll rate
 
* No combat take-off flaps
 
* No combat take-off flaps
* The engine overheats quickly at low altitude (below 4,000 m, or 12,000 ft)
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* The engine overheats quickly at low altitude (below 4,000 m / 12,000 ft)
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
''The original specification that led to the VG series was offered in 1936 in order to quickly raise the number of modern aircraft in French service, by supplying a "light fighter" of wooden construction that could be built rapidly in large numbers. The contract resulted in three designs, the VG-30, the Caudron C.714 and the Bloch MB.700. Prototypes of all three were ordered.''
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''Named for engineer Michel Vernisse (V) and designer Jean Galtier (G), the '''VG-30''' was all wooden in construction, using plywood over stringers in a semi-monocoque construction. The layout was conventional, a low-wing monoplane that bore a striking resemblance to the later Italian Macchi C.202. Armament consisted of a 20 mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404 engine-mount moteur-canon firing through the propeller hub, and four 7.5 mm MAC 1934 M39 drum-fed machine guns, two in each wing. The design was supposed to be powered by the Potez 12Dc flat-12 air-cooled inline engine, but this ran into development problems. The prototype was then fitted with a Hispano-Suiza 12Xcrs instead, and flew in this form in October 1938.''
 
 
 
''In order to find some solution to the engine problem, the '''VG-31''' was to use the 632 kW (860 hp) Hispano-Suiza 12Y-31 and the '''VG-32''' the Allison V-1710C-15. The VG-31 flew in 1939 and proved to have excellent performance. The prototype VG-32 was completed in 1940 and awaiting its test flight when it was captured by the advancing German forces at Villacoublay.''
 
 
 
''The '''VG-33''' was a modified version of the VG-31 using the same 12Y-31, and first flew on April 25, 1939. It had a surprisingly good performance of 560 km/h (348mph), and was ordered into production with a contract for 220 aircraft in September, later raised to 1,000. Production did not take long to start, but most of the airframes never received engines and sat at the factory when it fell to the Germans.''
 
 
 
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_VG-33
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
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* [[wt:en/news/5038-development-arsenal-vg-33-air-diver-en|[Devblog] Arsenal VG.33: Air Diver]]
 
* [[wt:en/news/5038-development-arsenal-vg-33-air-diver-en|[Devblog] Arsenal VG.33: Air Diver]]

Revision as of 21:41, 18 July 2022

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V.G.33C-1
AB RB SB
3.0 2.7 2.7
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Description

The V.G.33C-1 is a rank II French fighter with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB) and 2.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

The V.G.33 can adequately deal with planes with similar BR. It is quick, nimble (to an extent), and powerful. Its machine guns and single propeller-mounted 20 mm do a decent amount of damage. However, it lacks armour, so take that into account when engaging other aircraft.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 4 500 m558 km/h
Turn time19 s
Max altitude9 500 m
EngineHispano-Suiza 12Y-31
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight2 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 4,500 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 537 523 9500 19.7 20.5 10.4 10.4 300
Upgraded 588 558 18.8 19.0 20.4 13.4

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
800 320 N/A N/A 270 ~12 ~9
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 350 < 350 < 430 > 340

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear320 km/h
  • 3 mm Steel plate between engine and oil cooling system.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB495 → 626 Sl icon.png
RB995 → 1 259 Sl icon.png
SB1 407 → 1 781 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications8 400 Rp icon.png
9 390 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost640 Ge icon.png
Crew training4 500 Sl icon.png
Experts16 000 Sl icon.png
Aces180 Ge icon.png
Research Aces190 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
30 / 70 / 150 % Sl icon.png
118 / 118 / 118 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
560 Rp icon.png
Cost:
630 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
560 Rp icon.png
Cost:
630 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
630 Rp icon.png
Cost:
710 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
790 Sl icon.png
105 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
790 Sl icon.png
105 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
910 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
630 Rp icon.png
Cost:
710 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
910 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
7_5mm_belt_pack
Research:
560 Rp icon.png
Cost:
630 Sl icon.png
85 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mac39_new_gun
Research:
630 Rp icon.png
Cost:
710 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
790 Sl icon.png
105 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_404_new_gun
Research:
910 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition60 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Ammunition2 000 rounds
Fire rate1 350 shots/min

The V.G.33C-1 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
  • 4 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)

Usage in battles

The V.G.33C-1 is a very competitive aircraft at its battle rating, with decent climb rate, good speed and good manoeuvrability. Its biggest weaknesses are its lack of ammunition and lack of armour. To take advantage of this plane, it's best to side climb and exploit any opportunities that will present themselves. Both turnfighting and BnZ tactics work well with this plane but turnfighting is the better of the two due to the lack of ammo, it also allows for, generally speaking, a better and cleaner shot. Trigger control is key when flying this plane. Though not as manoeuvrable as a spitfire, it can sustain a turnfight with an F6F, Yak-7 or Yak-9, but against a fighter like a I-16, you can use your high horsepower engine in a steep climb while dodging out of the way of its guns, to stall it out so you can finish him off with your 7.5 mm MGs.

In mixed ground battles, your anti-tank capabilities are limited as the penetration of your 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon is insufficient. Up close, you can penetrate the roof of the Pz.III, and perhaps the engine deck, depending on angle. Your main target shouldn't be ground vehicles, but strike aircraft and fighters. With your relatively weak armament, bombers will be tough to bring down, and the fragile inline engine cannot take much fire before becoming inoperable.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 20 mm cannon is very dangerous, especially with high explosive ammunition
  • Relatively fast
  • Excellent manoeuvrability
  • Impressive efficiency of 4 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns
  • Amazing climb rate, about as good as the BF-109s
  • Excellent high altitude performance
  • Amazing energy retention, probably the best for what it faces
  • Lightweight can zoom climb away from most enemies in the middle of a dogfight
  • High energy retention when exiting a dive

Cons:

  • 20 mm cannon has very small ammo pool
  • 20 mm cannon under-performs until you research new ammunition belts
  • Weak survivability, especially the fuel tanks and inline engine
  • Below average roll rate
  • No combat take-off flaps
  • The engine overheats quickly at low altitude (below 4,000 m / 12,000 ft)

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Arsenal Aeronautical (Arsenal de l'Aéronautique)
Fighters  VB.10-02 · VB.10C-1
  V.G.33C-1

France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900