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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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Type 88C is a smoothbore cannon manufactured by Factory 617, Norinco during the late 1980s; serving as PLAGF's early model of Warsaw Pact caliber equivalent cannon; with the sufficient velocity and the projectile's penetration, this gun can show its power through eliminating enemies with its subpar varied yet sufficient shells.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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* {{Specs-Link|cn_ztz_96}}
 
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=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
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The basis of this gun was Warsaw Pact's [[2A46M-1 (125 mm)|2A46M-1]] cannon, so it can theoretically firing most shells from them; while there are a few domestic options from DTP-1 HEATFS, DTB HEFS and later 125-I APFSDS.
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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For the NATO equivalent [[Rh120 L/44 (120 mm)|Rh120 L/44]] and its basis 2A46M-1, their Chinese competitor shines over in terms of the velocity of projectile at 1730 m/s; but considering the subpar reload speed at 7.5 second, this gun is somewhat average at its tier while still sufficient to handle most targets.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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Since the gun was based on 2A46M-1, players of Soviet tech tree might find themselves home using Type 88C cannon, they shared many traits and flaws, like its overall higher velocity and access to HEFS, as well as slow (albeit still faster than the former) traverse speed and subpar reload to NATO manual reloaded guns; but his Chinese cousin comes with a slower reload rate so be extra careful with your shots, also in current patches this gun doesn't have access to ATGMs.
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Its velocity and penetration helps players to knock out most of the targets it may face thanks to the 125-I APFSDS, also DTB HEFS does worth mentioning with their bit more explosive mass and penetration which also makes enemies be extra caution not to over-pressured by this shell.
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Overall the gun, aside from the reload time, is very similar, if not the same as 2A46M-1 found on many Soviet/Russian tanks and the playstyle should be similar as well.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
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* High velocity that makes it comfortable at sniping .
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* 125-I found on this gun has enough penetration to stop most of its targets.
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* Access to powerful HEFS that can over-pressure even the heaviest MBTs.
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* Domestic autoloader that reloads even with loss of crewmembers
  
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* Even worse reload rate than his Soviet cousin at 7.5 seconds.
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* Subpar traverse speed albeit still faster than his Soviet Cousin.
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* Comes with no tube-launched ATGM.
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== History ==
 
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The attempt of Chinese domestic smoothbore cannon can went back to late 1960s.
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''See also: [[PTZ89 (120 mm)|PTZ89]]''
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During the 1980s, Mainland China has acquired a T-72U-1 "Ural" from Romania, in exchange to some industrial equipment; meanwhile there was the competition from Factory 447's 120mm smoothbore gun, Factory 617 had a better progress on reverse-engineering this gun alongside with its AZ-174 autoloader, eventually in 1986 this gun passed for state certifications and was used on a prototype of ZTZ85II-AP/M export tank and ZTZ90 as their main cannon; later with its official introduction into PLAGF service, it made its way becoming the main gun for ZTZ88C (later [[ZTZ96]]) and its upgrade [[ZTZ96A]]. Completed with NATO alloy technologies, this gun served as a more accurate and powerful option for PLAGF to handle any future tanks they may encounter.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 
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== External links ==
 
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Revision as of 15:05, 27 June 2021

Description

Type 88C is a smoothbore cannon manufactured by Factory 617, Norinco during the late 1980s; serving as PLAGF's early model of Warsaw Pact caliber equivalent cannon; with the sufficient velocity and the projectile's penetration, this gun can show its power through eliminating enemies with its subpar varied yet sufficient shells.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

The basis of this gun was Warsaw Pact's 2A46M-1 cannon, so it can theoretically firing most shells from them; while there are a few domestic options from DTP-1 HEATFS, DTB HEFS and later 125-I APFSDS.

Comparison with analogues

For the NATO equivalent Rh120 L/44 and its basis 2A46M-1, their Chinese competitor shines over in terms of the velocity of projectile at 1730 m/s; but considering the subpar reload speed at 7.5 second, this gun is somewhat average at its tier while still sufficient to handle most targets.

Usage in battles

Since the gun was based on 2A46M-1, players of Soviet tech tree might find themselves home using Type 88C cannon, they shared many traits and flaws, like its overall higher velocity and access to HEFS, as well as slow (albeit still faster than the former) traverse speed and subpar reload to NATO manual reloaded guns; but his Chinese cousin comes with a slower reload rate so be extra careful with your shots, also in current patches this gun doesn't have access to ATGMs.

Its velocity and penetration helps players to knock out most of the targets it may face thanks to the 125-I APFSDS, also DTB HEFS does worth mentioning with their bit more explosive mass and penetration which also makes enemies be extra caution not to over-pressured by this shell.

Overall the gun, aside from the reload time, is very similar, if not the same as 2A46M-1 found on many Soviet/Russian tanks and the playstyle should be similar as well.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High velocity that makes it comfortable at sniping .
  • 125-I found on this gun has enough penetration to stop most of its targets.
  • Access to powerful HEFS that can over-pressure even the heaviest MBTs.
  • Domestic autoloader that reloads even with loss of crewmembers

Cons:

  • Even worse reload rate than his Soviet cousin at 7.5 seconds.
  • Subpar traverse speed albeit still faster than his Soviet Cousin.
  • Comes with no tube-launched ATGM.

History

The attempt of Chinese domestic smoothbore cannon can went back to late 1960s.

See also: PTZ89

During the 1980s, Mainland China has acquired a T-72U-1 "Ural" from Romania, in exchange to some industrial equipment; meanwhile there was the competition from Factory 447's 120mm smoothbore gun, Factory 617 had a better progress on reverse-engineering this gun alongside with its AZ-174 autoloader, eventually in 1986 this gun passed for state certifications and was used on a prototype of ZTZ85II-AP/M export tank and ZTZ90 as their main cannon; later with its official introduction into PLAGF service, it made its way becoming the main gun for ZTZ88C (later ZTZ96) and its upgrade ZTZ96A. Completed with NATO alloy technologies, this gun served as a more accurate and powerful option for PLAGF to handle any future tanks they may encounter.

Media

An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the weapon;
  • other literature.


China tank cannons
30 mm  ZPL02 · ZPZ02
73 mm  Type 85
76 mm  M32K1
85 mm  Type-62-85-TC · Type 63
100 mm  PTP86 · Type 59 · Type 69 · Type 69-II · ZPL04
105 mm  Type 83 · WMA301 · ZPL94 · ZPL98A
120 mm  122TM · PTZ89
125 mm  Type 88C · Type 99A · ZPT98
152 mm  PL66 Gai
  Foreign:
20 mm  KwK30 (Germany)
37 mm  M6 (USA)
45 mm  20-K (USSR)
47 mm  Type 1 (Japan)
57 mm  Type 97 (Japan) · ZIS-2 (USSR)
75 mm  M2 Howitzer (USA) · M3 (USA) · M6 (USA)
76 mm  D-56T (USSR) · F-34 (USSR) · M1 (USA) · M7 (USA) · ZIS-3 (USSR)
85 mm  ZIS-S-53 (USSR)
90 mm  M3 (USA) · M41 (USA)
100 mm  D-10S (USSR)
105 mm  M68 (USA) · M68A1 (USA)
115 mm  U-5TS (USSR)
122 mm  A-19 (USSR) · D-25T (USSR)
152 mm  ML-20S (USSR)

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