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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''23 mm Type 23-2K''' is a Chinese autocannon armament fitted to Q-5s, replacing the 30 mm from the J-6s. The weapon is functionally identical to the Soviet NR-23.
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The '''23 mm Type 23-2K''' is a Chinese autocannon armament fitted to Q-5s, replacing the 30 mm from the J-6s. The weapon is functionally identical to the Soviet NR-23, but due to its shorter barrel and a muzzle-breaker, it has quite a different ballistic than NR-23 but it still has sufficient enough firepower to finish off careless aerial targets given the shots land on the target.
  
 
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This weapon makes for a fairly dangerous encounter, whether for you or your enemy. The slightly above average rate of fire of 900 RPM allows for long-range tap firing or long bursts. The largest issue is that despite the large calibre, it lacks enough punch to ensure each hit will cripple the target, yet it still tends to come with a sparse supply of ammunition. Trigger happy pilots beware! Precise aim is required!
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This weapon makes for a fairly dangerous encounter, whether for you or your enemy. The slightly above average rate of fire of 900 RPM allows for long-range tap firing or long bursts. The largest issue is that despite the large calibre, it could be frustrating with its lack of enough punch to ensure each hit will cripple the target and lower velocity than its Soviet ancestor, yet it still tends to come with a sparse supply of ammunition. Trigger happy pilots beware! Precise aim is required!
  
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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====== ''See also: [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]]'' ======
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In attempt of build Chinese's [[Q-5 early|first ground attacker]], Nanchang Aircraft Corporation had attempted to put 2 NR-30 (Type 30-1) into the Xiongying 302 (Soaring Eagle 302) prototype of what's known as Q-5 later in 1965, but later ground tests and aerial tests have shown that 2 large-caliber cannon placing at the nose of a jet attacker wasn't a good idea- the fumes from both 30mm autocannons have caused engine stalls similar to that of a [[MiG-9 (Family)|MiG-9]], forcing Lu Xiaopeng (陆孝彭), the chief designer of XY-302 moving its cannons to the root of the wing and downgrading to a 23mm [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] (Type 23-1) cannons; although the smaller caliber and repositioned guns reduced fume-caused stalling of engines, the original NR-23 could still possibly cause a engine stall to both engine.
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Thus in the later prototypes and pre-production run Q-5 series, Nanchang Aircraft Corporation has changed its cannon into a even shorter and muzzle-breaker-equipped Type 23-2K cannons, scarifying some of its velocity while retaining the ammo count, sufficient firepower and prevent engine stalls caused by the aforementioned muzzle fumes.
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These cannons have already been decommissioned by PLAAF and only the remaining foreign users of A-5 series use this gun till this date.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==

Revision as of 19:24, 27 August 2021

Description

The 23 mm Type 23-2K is a Chinese autocannon armament fitted to Q-5s, replacing the 30 mm from the J-6s. The weapon is functionally identical to the Soviet NR-23, but due to its shorter barrel and a muzzle-breaker, it has quite a different ballistic than NR-23 but it still has sufficient enough firepower to finish off careless aerial targets given the shots land on the target.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

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Available ammunition

  • Default: AP-I · FI-T
  • Armored targets: FI-T · AP-I · AP-I · AP-I
  • Air targets: FI-T · FI-T · FI-T · AP-I
  • Stealth: AP-I

It is possible to achieve penetration of American MBT's roofs (Abrams, MBT-70) with the AP-I round, although this task can prove to be difficult.

An FI-T hitting the inner wing or central fuselage will act like a "mini-flak shell" and can cause fuel leaks, oil leaks, engine damage, and inner-wing damage.

Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Default 29 26 20 16 14 9
Armored targets 29 26 20 16 14 9
Air targets 29 26 20 16 14 9
Stealth 29 26 20 16 14 9
Belt details
Belt Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Stealth 710 0.2 N/A N/A N/A 47° 56° 65°

Comparison with analogues

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Usage in battles

This weapon makes for a fairly dangerous encounter, whether for you or your enemy. The slightly above average rate of fire of 900 RPM allows for long-range tap firing or long bursts. The largest issue is that despite the large calibre, it could be frustrating with its lack of enough punch to ensure each hit will cripple the target and lower velocity than its Soviet ancestor, yet it still tends to come with a sparse supply of ammunition. Trigger happy pilots beware! Precise aim is required!

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent damage per short burst of shells
  • High fire rate for a gun of this calibre

Cons:

  • Low velocity
  • One or two shells usually won't cause a critical or destroy an enemy (two may impact performance for a follow-up)
  • Occasional sparks
  • Generally low ammunition supply

History

See also: NR-23

In attempt of build Chinese's first ground attacker, Nanchang Aircraft Corporation had attempted to put 2 NR-30 (Type 30-1) into the Xiongying 302 (Soaring Eagle 302) prototype of what's known as Q-5 later in 1965, but later ground tests and aerial tests have shown that 2 large-caliber cannon placing at the nose of a jet attacker wasn't a good idea- the fumes from both 30mm autocannons have caused engine stalls similar to that of a MiG-9, forcing Lu Xiaopeng (陆孝彭), the chief designer of XY-302 moving its cannons to the root of the wing and downgrading to a 23mm NR-23 (Type 23-1) cannons; although the smaller caliber and repositioned guns reduced fume-caused stalling of engines, the original NR-23 could still possibly cause a engine stall to both engine.

Thus in the later prototypes and pre-production run Q-5 series, Nanchang Aircraft Corporation has changed its cannon into a even shorter and muzzle-breaker-equipped Type 23-2K cannons, scarifying some of its velocity while retaining the ammo count, sufficient firepower and prevent engine stalls caused by the aforementioned muzzle fumes.

These cannons have already been decommissioned by PLAAF and only the remaining foreign users of A-5 series use this gun till this date.

Media

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See also

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External links

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China aircraft cannons
23 mm  Type 23-1 · Type 23-2K · Type 23-3 · Type 23L
30 mm  Type 30-1
  Foreign
20 mm  AN/M2 (USA) · B-20E (USSR) · Hispano 404 (France) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · Ho-3 (Japan) · Ho-5 (Japan)
  M39A1 (USA) · M39A2 (USA) · M39A3 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · M197 (USA) · ShVAK (USSR) · Type 99 Model 1 (Japan)
23 mm  NR-23 (USSR) · NS-23 (USSR) · NS-23K (USSR)
30 mm  GAU-13/A (USA)
37 mm  Ho-203 (Japan) · N-37D (USSR)