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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).
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Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).
  
 
The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.
 
The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.
  
* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else;
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* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity;
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* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets;
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* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby;
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* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo;
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* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm;
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* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
 
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
 
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
 
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
 
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations;
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* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations
  
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===

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Description

The Ta 152 C-3 is a rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/RB) and 6.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.57 "Battle March".

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the Fw 190 D-13. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the B-29 Superfortress. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 10 400 m730 km/h
Turn time27 s
Max altitude13 500 m
EngineDaimler-Benz DB-603LA
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight6 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 10,400 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 703 681 13500 28.2 29.2 9.7 9.7 500
Upgraded 759 730 25.8 27.0 17.1 13.1

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 310 667 591 310 ~11 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 420 < 240 < 500 > 290
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
8,990 m 1,750 hp 1,921 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear310 km/h
  • 15 mm Steel - Engine cowl armour
  • 5 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour
  • 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour plate
  • 8 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
  • 5 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
  • 20 mm Steel - Head rest armour
  • 10 mm Steel - Upper cowling ammunition armour
  • 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel armour
  • 70 mm Bulletproof glass

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 270 → 4 188 Sl icon.png
RB7 799 → 9 990 Sl icon.png
SB11 107 → 14 228 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications61 400 Rp icon.png
102 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training61 000 Sl icon.png
Experts210 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces570 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 250 / 510 % Sl icon.png
178 / 178 / 178 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
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Radiator
Research:
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Cost:
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
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Wings repair
Research:
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Cost:
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Engine
Research:
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Cost:
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Engine injection
Research:
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Cost:
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Airframe
Research:
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Cost:
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
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mg15120_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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mk103_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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mg15120_new_gun
Research:
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Cost:
6 300 Sl icon.png
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mk103_new_gun
Research:
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Cost:
6 300 Sl icon.png
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Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition90 rounds
Fire rate450 shots/min
Ammunition650 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min

The Ta 152 C-3 is armed with:

  • 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

Usage in battles

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its MK 103 (30 mm) cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of MG 151 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

  • Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
  • Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
  • Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
  • Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
  • HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
  • 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
  • The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
  • When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
  • Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Auto control available
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Combined Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
  • Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
  • Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
  • Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
  • Very effective bomber killer.
  • Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
  • Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
  • Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
  • Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
  • Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
  • Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
  • Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
  • Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
  • Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

Cons:

  • Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
  • Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
  • Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
  • Poor high altitude performance.
  • Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
  • Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
  • Stock performance is awful.
  • Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
  • Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

History

Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the B-29, the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.[1] To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.[2]

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).[2] Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.[2]

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for Kurt Tank, though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.[2]

Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.[1] This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.[2]

Media

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See also

Related development
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.


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