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* More armoured than the [[Type 94|Type 94]] (can survive MG fire)
 
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* Same single-mounted 20 mm autocannon as with the [[Type 94|Type 94]]
 
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== History ==
 
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One prototype built in 1941. Never saw production.
  
 
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{{Japan anti-aircraft vehicles}}
 
{{Japan anti-aircraft vehicles}}

Revision as of 05:34, 13 February 2019

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Ta-Se
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Ta-Se
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Description

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The Ta-Se is a Rank I Japanese self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced along with the entire Japanese Ground Forces tree in Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"

The Ta-Se is a fast turreted SPG armed with a 20 mm autocanon. It can serve both as an AA or, in urban/small maps, as a close-quarter flanking vehicle. With a fair 24 hp/ton ratio (fully upgraded), the Ta-Se has enough mobility to follow other light tanks. Its light weight makes breaking through obstacles a bit challenging, but, its canon can break most of them before making contact. With fairly narrow tracks, this vehicle is easily slowed down by rough terrain.

While not being the best rank 1 AA autocanon (this title belong to the German Flakpanzer 38(t) Gepard), this little gun is still very suitable to engage planes.

Load in your API-T belt, voilà !, you are now ready to hunt down tanks. As an antitank weapon, this canon really shines. With a slower rate of fire than its German counterpart, it is easier to shoot one bullet at a time with good accuracy. One can easily take out one ground target/magazine (provided you know where to shoot). Shoot the gunner first, the driver/engine to immobilise your prey and then finish off every other crew member by sniping them.

One big downside to being such a fast and versatile vehicle (both AA and AT) is that armor is light, very light, at an average of 12 mm. This means you won't survive any shot bigger than MG fire: play smart and always flank, strike fast and retreat at the littlest threat (arty, other enemy tank, strafing plane, etc.). Since two out of three crew members are located in the turret (with their head popping out of it), do not expect to survive any more than one shot.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 10 mm (22-25°) Front plate
9 mm (24°) Driver's port
9 mm (72°) Front glacis
16 mm (2-58°) Lower glacis
12 mm (0-31°) Top
12 mm Bottom
10 mm (52°) Top
10 mm (12-52°) Bottom
10 mm
Turret 12-16 mm (13-14°) Turret front
12 mm (0-1°) Gun mount
12 mm (11-13°) 12 mm (6-11°) N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 9 mm thick.
  • Turret underside armour is 9 mm thick.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
7.0 N/A 49 (AB)
45 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 136 168
Realistic/Simulator 115 130
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 19.43 24.00
Realistic/Simulator 15.97 18.57

Armaments

Main article: Type 98 (20 mm)
20 mm Type 98
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
400 (20) 300 -9°/+82° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 20.8 28.8 35.0 57.3 __.__
Realistic 20.8 24.5 29.8 32.9 35.0
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
3.9 3.4 3.2 __.__

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Type 100 HE-T HEFI-T 2 2 2 2 2 2
Type 100 AP-T API-T 46 45 33 23 15 11
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Type 100 HE-T HEFI-T 829 0.13 0.3 0.1 6 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Type 100 AP-T API-T 829 0.16 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Ta-Se
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
20 (+19) no

Usage in the battles

AA role:

Shooting at aircraft, you can make use of it's maneuverability to evade enemy bombs or bullets. This is not a spectacular AA since it's fire density is not so great, requiring every shot to be pinpoint on target to hit. Bring 5-6 full HE belts to take this role in case there is planes coming your way. Any good SPAA tactic works fine with the Ta-Se.

Light brawler:

Any aggressive player will greatly enjoy taking this little brute into a close quarter fight. Its fast speed and turret turning rate allow for intense action and multi-target engagement. At this BR, 45 mm of penetration is more than enough to incapacitate most enemy tanks. But beware of its limited ammo count and always engage your target with a fully loaded magazine. It is reccommended to spray the gunner first and then taking your time to snipe every other crew member. Whenever an artillery strike is coming your way, be it friendly or enemy, do not stand there for too long since a single shell can wreck this tank. One last warning: never engage heavy targets, instead: flee.

Pros and cons

Pros

  • More armoured than the Type 94 (can survive MG fire)
  • Good manoeuvrability and speed
  • Fast turret turning rate
  • Tiny. Can easily conceal itself and wait for the perfect time to take out enemy aircraft
  • 20mm autocannon is more than enough to take out planes at its BR and API-T belt can even take out light tanks and medium tanks from the side.
  • 17 magazines of 20 bullets each.
  • Good default multi-purpose belt.
  • Fast reload speed

Cons

  • Same single-mounted 20 mm autocannon as with the Type 94
  • Open crew top still vulnerable to air strikes and artillery
  • Only 3 crew members, two of which are in the turret
  • Loader's and commander's head are exposed from the turret.
  • Low firing rate and dispersion, make every shot count.

History

One prototype built in 1941. Never saw production.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

ETC.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Japan anti-aircraft vehicles
Ke-Ni Derivatives  Ta-Se · So-Ki
Wheeled  Type 94
Tracked  SUB-I-II
Radar SPAAG  Type 87
Missile SPAA  Type 93 · Type 81 (C)
USA  ▅M16 MGMC · ▅M19A1 · ▅M42