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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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The T-34-85 has very poor survivability due to the fact that all 5 crews are stacked on top of each other. However, most inexperienced players that face this tank will have a hard time killing it because they will often shoot the lower hull part of the driver hatch.
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The T-34-85 has very poor survivability due to the fact that all 5 crews are stacked on top of each other. However, most inexperienced players that face this tank will have a hard time destroying it because they will often shoot the lower hull part of the driver hatch.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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=== Machine guns ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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In AB you should play this tank like any other T-34. Push because you have a pretty well-rounded tank and will generally be able to adapt to whatever situation that develops.
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In RB play this tank offensively yet carefully. Use your speed and keep up with your teammates. Your 85 mm will shred through Panthers and Tiger.
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In AB, you should play this tank like any other T-34. Push because you have a pretty well-rounded tank and will generally be able to adapt to whatever situation that develops.
In SB play this tank very cautiously because the optics aren't that good and most of the time you will face tanks from pretty far distances. Panthers generally have better optics than you so try to avoid encounters with Panthers or Tiger 1's.
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In SB, play this tank very cautiously because the optics aren't that good and most of the time you will face tanks from pretty far distances. Panthers generally have better optics than you so try to avoid encounters with Panthers or Tiger 1's.
  
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Top mounted heavy machine gun is useful against soft targets and perhaps incoming aircraft
 
* Top mounted heavy machine gun is useful against soft targets and perhaps incoming aircraft
 
* Good gun, acceptable penetration when used for flanking and high one-shot kill potential
 
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* Armour is inadequate at its rank
 
* Armour is inadequate at its rank
 
* May have issues penetrating some targets frontally
 
* May have issues penetrating some targets frontally
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== See also ==
 
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Revision as of 11:58, 2 November 2019

Т-34-85 Gai
cn_type_58.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
5.7/5.7/5.7BR
5 peopleCrew
100 %Visibility
front / side / backArmour
45 / 45 / 45Hull
90 / 75 / 52Turret
Mobility
32.2 tWeight
954 hp500 hpEngine power
30 hp/t16 hp/tSurface density
61 km/h forward
9 km/h back
54 km/h forward
8 km/h back
Speed
Armament
85 mm ZIS-S-53 cannonMain weapon
55 roundsAmmunition
7.4 / 9.6 sReload
-5° / 22°Vertical guidance
12.7 mm DShK machine gunMachinegun
200 roundsAmmunition
8.0 / 10.4 sReload
50 roundsBelt capacity
600 shots/minFire rate
-4° / 82°Vertical guidance
1 890 roundsAmmunition
8.0 / 10.4 sReload
63 roundsBelt capacity
600 shots/minFire rate
Economy
54 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
180 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png3 400 / 4 409/2 800 / 3 631/2 000 / 2 594Repair
52 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
180 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
710 Ge icon.pngAces
× (166) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
× 1.8 Sl icon.png× 1.5 Sl icon.png× 1.2 Sl icon.png
This page is about the Chinese medium tank T-34-85 Gai. For other versions, see T-34 (Family).

Description

The Т-34-85 Gai is a rank III Chinese medium tank with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

General info

Survivability and armour

The T-34-85 has very poor survivability due to the fact that all 5 crews are stacked on top of each other. However, most inexperienced players that face this tank will have a hard time destroying it because they will often shoot the lower hull part of the driver hatch.

Mobility

Mobility characteristics
Weight (tons) Add-on armour
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
32.2 N/A 61 (AB)
55 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 775 954
Realistic/Simulator 442 500
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 24.07 29.63
Realistic/Simulator 13.73 15.53

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: ZiS-S-53 (85 mm)

This is where the T-34 85 Gai excels. Like any other 85 mm cannon the T-34 has, it has a really big TNT equivalent and a pretty nice penetration. Do keep in mind that you have a few different types of shell to choose from. APHE is really good because of the large amount of HE filler but lacks penetrative ability. APHEBC trades less high explosive for better penetration. Therefore, it's recommended for new tankers to use APHEBC instead of APHE or even APCR.

85 mm ZiS-S-53
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
55 -5°/+22° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior +
Full crew
Prior +
Expert qualif.
Prior +
Ace qualif.
Arcade 23.8°/s 32.9°/s  ??.??  ??.??  ??.??
Realistic 14.9°/s 17.5°/s  ??.??  ??.??  ??.??
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior +
Full crew
Prior +
Expert qualif.
Prior +
Ace qualif.
9.6 8.5 7.9 7.7

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
BR-365A APHEBC 135 133 125 115 106 97
BR-365K APHE 147 143 126 107 90 77
BR-365P APCR 193 187 154 120 94 74
O-365K HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Normalisation at 30°
from horizontal
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
BR-365A APHEBC 792 9.2 1.2 14.0 164 +4.0° 48°  ??° 71°
BR-365K APHE 792 9.2 1.2 14.0 73.9 -1.0° 47° 60° 65°
BR-365P APCR 1,050 4.99 N/A N/A N/A +1.5° 66° 70° 72°
O-365K HE 793 9.54 0.1 0.3 660 +0.0° 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
55  ?? (+??)  ?? (+??)  ?? (+??)  ?? (+??)  ?? (+??)  ?? (+??)  ??

Optics

T-34-85 Gai Optics
Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics X3.8 X4.0
Comparable optics  ???

Machine guns

12.7 mm DShK
mount
Capacity
(Belt capacity)
Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
200 (50) 600 -4°/+82° ±180°
7.62 mm DT
mount
Capacity
(Belt capacity)
Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
1,890 (63) 600 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

In AB, you should play this tank like any other T-34. Push because you have a pretty well-rounded tank and will generally be able to adapt to whatever situation that develops.

In RB, play this tank offensively yet carefully. Use your speed and keep up with your teammates. Your 85 mm will shred through Panthers and Tiger.

In SB, play this tank very cautiously because the optics aren't that good and most of the time you will face tanks from pretty far distances. Panthers generally have better optics than you so try to avoid encounters with Panthers or Tiger 1's.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive BR-365A
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism BR-365P
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Top mounted heavy machine gun is useful against soft targets and perhaps incoming aircraft
  • Good gun, acceptable penetration when used for flanking and high one-shot kill potential
  • Has access to the BR-365P APCR round
  • Good mobility
  • 5 person crew

Cons:

  • Armour is inadequate at its rank
  • May have issues penetrating some targets frontally
  • Heavy machine gun needs to reload frequently
  • Fairly tall, top machine gun makes the tank even more noticeable

History

The Soviet Union sold numerous T-34-85 tanks along with other vehicles to the People's Republic of China in the early 1950s since the new nation had few and often obsolete tanks in its inventory after the conclusion of the Chinese Civil War. The T-34s saw limited deployments with the People's Liberation Army during the Korean War. The history of the tank afterwards has been the subject of debate; according to some sources the PRC attempted and possibly succeeded at creating a local copy of the T-34 under a "Type 58" designation, and according to others this was never a goal, no such tanks ever existed, and only efforts to maintain and repair the T-34s were carried out. Regardless the T-34s were soon superseded by the far superior Type 59, a licensed copy of the Soviet T-54A. However, stocks of T-34s remained in the PLA inventory for a long period of time before domestic tanks were available in sufficient quantity.

T-34s in Chinese service were often upgraded to a standard referred to by some as the "Type 58". The exact details and universality of these upgrades are also nebulous, but known characteristics include a new loader's cupola capable of mounting a heavy machine gun, hardpoints on the right turret cheek for stowing away said machine gun, and a modified hinge for the rear transmission cover. Other upgrades may have been carried out as well.

The vehicle represented in War Thunder also features a splashboard welded onto the upper glacis. The "Gai" in its designation (改) means "modified" in Chinese.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the tank;
  • other literature.


China medium tanks
  Т-34-85 Gai · Type 59 · ZTZ59D1 · Type 69 · Т-62 №545 · M60A3 TTS · CM11 · ZTZ96
American  ␗M4A4 · M4A4 (1st PTG) · ␗M4A1 (75) W · ␗M48A1
Soviet  ␗T-34 (1943) · ␗Т-34-85 (S-53)
Japanese  ␗Type 97 Chi-Ha