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{{Specs-Card|code=spitfire_mk5b}}
 
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{{About
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| about = British fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| usage = other uses
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}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_Spitfire_Mk_Vb_trop.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.
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Having picked up the experience from the Previous Mk Ia, IIa and IIb, most players will welcome the Spitfire Mk Vb. The Vb sports a new and more powerful Merlin-45 inline compared to the previous Merlin-XII engine giving it an extra 100 horsepower when upgraded, which provides better high altitude performance and faster top speed than the IIb. Unfortunately, the Vb still has similar problems as experienced in with the early spitfires such as a very weak airframe, weak wings, bad roll rate at high speeds and lack of combat flaps to help with dog-fighting.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,878 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 541 || 526 || 10,500 || 17.7 || 18.0 || 11.2 || 13.6 || 340
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,878 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 607 || 573 || 10,500 || 16.2 || 16.3 || 27.7 || 17.8 || 340
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|-
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|}
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====Details====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| X || X || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| 760 || 270 || 290 || ~13 || ~7
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < 321 || < 400 || < 460 || > 250
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 4,800 m || 1,190 hp || 1,583 hp
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|-
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
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* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Armored windscreen
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* 4 mm Steel - Armored plate in pilot's seat
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* 6-7 mm Steel - Armored plate behind the pilot
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* 3 mm Steel - Armored boxes around the wing ammunition
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* 1 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of the top fuel tank
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* 3 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of liquid cooling system
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|Hispano Mk.II (20 mm)|Browning .303 (7.7 mm)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannon, wing-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
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* 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine gun, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)
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== Usage in battles ==
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[[File:FighterImage_Spitvbtrop_1.jpg|thumb|250px|right|A Spitfire Mk. Vb/trop attacking a German Bf 109]]
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While being a decent fighter in RB, you have to take care of the wings. This is especially true when diving, once you pass 315 mph (507 kph) move the cursor slowly in the direction you're going and keep the throttle at idle as this will allow the plane to bleed speed and prevent the wings from being torn off, this mark of Spitfire has a very bad tendency of doing this at high speed and many players fail to recognize this problem until it is too late.
  
== Weaponry ==
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The new Merlin-45 provides more horsepower than the Merlin-XII when upgraded, but provides less when stock, which gives the Vb a stronger feeling of "stock syndrome". The Vb is also the first Spitfire to sport the powerful Hispano Mk.II's which can load the feared British "Air Targets" belt and has better overall ballistics compared to the Hispano Mk.I's.
=== Offensive weaponry ===
 
''Describe the offensive weaponry of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''
 
  
=== Suspended weaponry ===
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BF-109's. The great nemesis, the Messerschmitts are able to challenge you on a more than even footing with their high top speed, acceleration and high altitude performance. You will commonly encounter BF-109 F-4's which use a powerful and accurate MG 151 cannon that can load the devastating German Minenshoß which can tear right through the Spitfire's already weak airframe. Never challenge one at a high altitude, try to bring it down to a lower altitude and force it to turn fight.
''Describe the aircraft's suspended weapons: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
 
  
=== Defensive weaponry ===
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===Manual Engine Control===
''Defensive weaponry with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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|-
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! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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|-
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
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|-
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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|-
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== Usage in the battles ==
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===Modules===
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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{| class="wikitable"
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!colspan = "1"| Tier
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!colspan = "2"| Flight performance
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!colspan = "1"| Survivability
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!colspan = "2"| Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage Repair
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| Radiator
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|
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| Offensive 7 mm
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| Offensive 20 mm
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|-
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| II
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|
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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| New 7 mm MGs
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| New 20 mm Cannons
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|-
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| III
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| Wings Repair
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| Engine
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|
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|
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| Mk.II year 1942
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|-
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| IV
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|
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| Engine Injection
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| Cover
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|
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| Mk.II year 1943
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Excellent turn time
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* Powerful cannons
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* Extremely manoeuvrable
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* High ammo count for the .303 Brownings
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* Can do a bit of negative G manoeuvres unlike its predecessors
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Low ammo count for the Hispanos
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* .303s have a low damage output
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* Poor high altitude performance
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* Prone to overheating easily
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* Very fragile
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* Somewhat poor climb rate
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== History ==
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''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''
  
== Historical part ==
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=== Notable pilots ===
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<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:John_Plagis_portrait.jpg|thumb|none|200px|link=User:U64962917#Plagis,_Ioannis_"John"_A.|Top scoring Southern Rhodesian ace pilot [[User:U64962917#Plagis,_Ioannis_"John"_A.|John Plagis]] and highest scoring pilot of Greek origin of WW II. Plagis flew the '''Spitfire Mk Vb/trop''' during the defense of Malta.]] </li><!--
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</ul></div>
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
 
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
  
== Read also ==
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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''
 
  
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== External links ==
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* ''other literature.''
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5371-development-spitfire-mk-v-model-update-and-new-modifications-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Spitfire Mk.V: model update and new modifications]
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{{Britain fighters}}

Revision as of 17:32, 18 June 2019

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This page is about the British fighter Spitfire Mk Vb/trop. For other uses, see Spitfire (Family).

Description

GarageImage Spitfire Mk Vb trop.jpg


The Spitfire Mk Vb/trop is a rank II British fighter with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB) and 3.3 (SB). It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.

Having picked up the experience from the Previous Mk Ia, IIa and IIb, most players will welcome the Spitfire Mk Vb. The Vb sports a new and more powerful Merlin-45 inline compared to the previous Merlin-XII engine giving it an extra 100 horsepower when upgraded, which provides better high altitude performance and faster top speed than the IIb. Unfortunately, the Vb still has similar problems as experienced in with the early spitfires such as a very weak airframe, weak wings, bad roll rate at high speeds and lack of combat flaps to help with dog-fighting.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,878 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
541 526 10,500 17.7 18.0 11.2 13.6 340
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,878 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
607 573 10,500 16.2 16.3 27.7 17.8 340

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
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760 270 290 ~13 ~7
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 321 < 400 < 460 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
4,800 m 1,190 hp 1,583 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Armored windscreen
  • 4 mm Steel - Armored plate in pilot's seat
  • 6-7 mm Steel - Armored plate behind the pilot
  • 3 mm Steel - Armored boxes around the wing ammunition
  • 1 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of the top fuel tank
  • 3 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of liquid cooling system

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Spitfire Mk Vb/trop is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannon, wing-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
  • 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine gun, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)

Usage in battles

A Spitfire Mk. Vb/trop attacking a German Bf 109

While being a decent fighter in RB, you have to take care of the wings. This is especially true when diving, once you pass 315 mph (507 kph) move the cursor slowly in the direction you're going and keep the throttle at idle as this will allow the plane to bleed speed and prevent the wings from being torn off, this mark of Spitfire has a very bad tendency of doing this at high speed and many players fail to recognize this problem until it is too late.

The new Merlin-45 provides more horsepower than the Merlin-XII when upgraded, but provides less when stock, which gives the Vb a stronger feeling of "stock syndrome". The Vb is also the first Spitfire to sport the powerful Hispano Mk.II's which can load the feared British "Air Targets" belt and has better overall ballistics compared to the Hispano Mk.I's.

BF-109's. The great nemesis, the Messerschmitts are able to challenge you on a more than even footing with their high top speed, acceleration and high altitude performance. You will commonly encounter BF-109 F-4's which use a powerful and accurate MG 151 cannon that can load the devastating German Minenshoß which can tear right through the Spitfire's already weak airframe. Never challenge one at a high altitude, try to bring it down to a lower altitude and force it to turn fight.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable Not controllable Not controllable Separate Not ontrollable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Offensive 7 mm Offensive 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs New 20 mm Cannons
III Wings Repair Engine Mk.II year 1942
IV Engine Injection Cover Mk.II year 1943

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent turn time
  • Powerful cannons
  • Extremely manoeuvrable
  • High ammo count for the .303 Brownings
  • Can do a bit of negative G manoeuvres unlike its predecessors

Cons:

  • Low ammo count for the Hispanos
  • .303s have a low damage output
  • Poor high altitude performance
  • Prone to overheating easily
  • Very fragile
  • Somewhat poor climb rate

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.

Notable pilots

  • Top scoring Southern Rhodesian ace pilot John Plagis and highest scoring pilot of Greek origin of WW II. Plagis flew the Spitfire Mk Vb/trop during the defense of Malta.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Britain fighters
Fury  Fury Mk I · Fury Mk II
Nimrod  Nimrod Mk I · Nimrod Mk II
Gladiator  Gladiator Mk II · Tuck's Gladiator Mk II · Gladiator Mk IIF · Gladiator Mk IIS
Sea Gladiator  Sea Gladiator Mk I
Hurricane  Hurricane Mk I/L · Hurricane Mk.I/L FAA M · Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop
Sea Hurricane  Sea Hurricane Mk IB · Sea Hurricane Mk IC
Martin-Baker  MB.5
Spitfire (early-Merlin)  Spitfire Mk Ia · Spitfire Mk IIa · Spitfire Mk.IIa Venture I · Spitfire Mk IIb · Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · Spitfire Mk Vb · Spitfire Mk Vc/trop · Spitfire Mk Vc
Spitfire (late-Merlin)  Spitfire F Mk IX · Spitfire LF Mk IX · Spitfire F Mk IXc · Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc · Spitfire F Mk XVI
Spitfire (Griffon)  Spitfire F Mk XIVc · Spitfire F Mk XIVe · Prendergast's Spitfire FR Mk XIVe · Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe · Spitfire F Mk 22 · Spitfire F Mk 24
Seafire  Seafire LF Mk.III · Seafire F Mk XVII · Seafire FR 47
Typhoon  Typhoon Mk Ia · Typhoon Mk Ib · Typhoon Mk Ib/L
Tempest  Tempest Mk II · Tempest Mk V
Sea Fury  Sea Fury FB 11
Twin-engine fighters  Hornet Mk.I · Hornet Mk.III · Whirlwind Mk I · Whirlwind P.9
  Foreign:
Australia  ▄Boomerang Mk I · ▄Boomerang Mk II
France  ▄D.520 · ▄D.521
USA  ▄Martlet Mk IV · ▄Corsair F Mk II · ▄Hellcat Mk II · ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄Mustang Mk IA