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| − | The Sagittario 2 has great | + | The Sagittario 2 has great manoeuvrability, at its battle rating and even above it, there won't be many aircraft that can match your speed, rate of climb, or energy retention. Whilst playing the Sagittario 2, you are able to do amazing manoeuvres that the enemy team could only dream of doing. Due to this, an experienced player in this aircraft can become quite a dangerous opponent. The max altitude of the Sagittario 2 is 11,000 metres, thanks to its rate of climb, you should be able to reach it at the beginning of the match with minimal effort required. One other great thing is how easily you can pull Gs with it, use it to your advantage and you should rack up quite a few eliminations. |
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| − | | 1,005 || 978 || rowspan="2" | | + | | 1,005 || 978 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.0 || 25.6 || 36.6 || 34.7 || rowspan="2" | 1,000 |
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! Upgraded | ! Upgraded | ||
| − | | 1, | + | | 1,085 || 1,050 || 23.5 || 24.0 || 54.5 || 45.0 |
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| 580 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet | | 580 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet | ||
| − | | 2,686 kg || 2,946 kg || 3,216 kg || 3,341 kg || 5, | + | | 2,686 kg || 2,946 kg || 3,216 kg || 3,341 kg || 5,641 kg |
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ||
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| ''Stationary'' || 1,536 kgf || N/A | | ''Stationary'' || 1,536 kgf || N/A | ||
| − | | 0.57 || 0.52 || 0.48 || 0.46 || | + | | 0.57 || 0.52 || 0.48 || 0.46 || 0.27 |
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| ''Optimal'' || 1,536 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A | | ''Optimal'' || 1,536 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A | ||
| − | | 0.57 || 0.52 || 0.48 || 0.46 || | + | | 0.57 || 0.52 || 0.48 || 0.46 || 0.27 |
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=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | Using the Sagittario 2 is quite | + | Using the Sagittario 2 is quite straightforward, it's an aircraft that nearly anyone can pick up and do fairly well in. This is mainly due to its amazing flight performance, which when compared with the majority of aircraft you'll face at your battle rating, make this vehicle quite fun to use. The best way to play the Sagittario 2 is to climb as high as you can, and use boom and zoom tactics. This is highly effective mainly due to the powerful 30 mm HS 825 cannons that the Sagittario has access to. When you've descended, you're still a really good dog-fighter so you are able to perform quite a lot of manoeuvres that many aircraft are not able to pull off. Make sure you always consider that during engagements, especially because the aircraft can easily pull G's without too much punishment towards the player controlling it. Keep in mind, if you want to take advantage of its speed and manoeuvrability, you will have to keep the aircraft as light as possibile, meaning bringing the minimal amount of fuel. This to some may seem like a disadvantage, but it's most likely the most effective way to get eliminations with the vehicle as it allows the aircraft to remain fast and nimble. Do keep in mind that if you decide not to bring a lot of fuel, you won't be in the battle as long, so make sure to make every second count. |
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| + | Another thing that people may claim is a disadvantage is the low ammo count; although this is true, doesn't mean the vehicle suffers. The HS 825 cannons are extremely deadly, they have a very high muzzle velocity, which paired up with the hard hitting 30 mm cannons, means that the majority of enemy aircraft you'll face will be destroyed after a small barrage of your main weapon. One of the other many advantages of the Sagittario 2 is its high speed, it can go up to 1,050 km/h in realistic battles. The Sagittario 2 can also work at low altitude, as an AI ground pounder, the main cannons it has access to are just as effective at taking out ground AI targets as they are at taking down air targets. This can be very effective as you can easily take advantage of your speed at the beginning of the match to slip past undetected by enemy aircraft. You could also use this to surprise enemies by flanking them once they've flown past you, unaware that you're actually able to go behind them. | ||
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| + | The Sagittario 2 does not have access to any countermeasures so keep that in mind if you choose to bring it in ground RB. Its cannons are enough to easily make make short work for the majority of lightly armoured ground vehicles, such as IFVs and SPAAs. Considering it doesn't have any payload options such as rockets or bombs, you'll have to entirely rely on your main cannons, and that also goes for air vehicles, as you don't have access to air-to-air missiles. It is not recommended to land on short runways, it should be avoided or risk crashing at the end. This also applies for Arcade battles, overall in the Sagittario 2, try at all times to take advantage of your abilities, as its the best way to come on top in duels, and win the match. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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* Relatively high top speed for its BR | * Relatively high top speed for its BR | ||
* 2 x hard hitting 30 mm cannons are excellent at taking down other aircraft | * 2 x hard hitting 30 mm cannons are excellent at taking down other aircraft | ||
| − | * The HS 825 cannons have a very high muzzle velocity ( | + | * The HS 825 cannons have a very high muzzle velocity (1,050 m/s) |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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* Limited ammunition capacity, only 120 rpg | * Limited ammunition capacity, only 120 rpg | ||
* No payload options | * No payload options | ||
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* The only available belt is 100% tracers, no armour-piercing ammo | * The only available belt is 100% tracers, no armour-piercing ammo | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
Revision as of 11:59, 26 July 2021
Contents
Description
The Sagittario 2 is a rank VI Italian jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB), 9.3 (RB), and 8.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Red Skies".
General info
Flight performance
The Sagittario 2 has great manoeuvrability, at its battle rating and even above it, there won't be many aircraft that can match your speed, rate of climb, or energy retention. Whilst playing the Sagittario 2, you are able to do amazing manoeuvres that the enemy team could only dream of doing. Due to this, an experienced player in this aircraft can become quite a dangerous opponent. The max altitude of the Sagittario 2 is 11,000 metres, thanks to its rate of climb, you should be able to reach it at the beginning of the match with minimal effort required. One other great thing is how easily you can pull Gs with it, use it to your advantage and you should rack up quite a few eliminations.
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 1,005 | 978 | 11000 | 25.0 | 25.6 | 36.6 | 34.7 | 1,000 |
| Upgraded | 1,085 | 1,050 | 23.5 | 24.0 | 54.5 | 45.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 1,125 | 450 | 498 | 469 | 320 | ~12 | ~4 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 600 | < 550 | < 610 | N/A |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
| Rolls-Royce Derwent 9 | 1 | 2,405 kg | 227 kg/m2 | ||||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 34m fuel | ||
| 580 kg | Centrifugal-flow turbojet | 2,686 kg | 2,946 kg | 3,216 kg | 3,341 kg | 5,641 kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | ||||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 34m fuel | MTOW |
| Stationary | 1,536 kgf | N/A | 0.57 | 0.52 | 0.48 | 0.46 | 0.27 |
| Optimal | 1,536 kgf (0 km/h) |
N/A | 0.57 | 0.52 | 0.48 | 0.46 | 0.27 |
Survivability and armour
- 40 mm bulletproof glass - Windscreen
- 6.5 mm steel - Behind pilot's seat
Modifications and economy
| Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Offensive armament
The Sagittario 2 is armed with:
- 2 x 30 mm Hispano HS 825 cannons, nose-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
Usage in battles
Using the Sagittario 2 is quite straightforward, it's an aircraft that nearly anyone can pick up and do fairly well in. This is mainly due to its amazing flight performance, which when compared with the majority of aircraft you'll face at your battle rating, make this vehicle quite fun to use. The best way to play the Sagittario 2 is to climb as high as you can, and use boom and zoom tactics. This is highly effective mainly due to the powerful 30 mm HS 825 cannons that the Sagittario has access to. When you've descended, you're still a really good dog-fighter so you are able to perform quite a lot of manoeuvres that many aircraft are not able to pull off. Make sure you always consider that during engagements, especially because the aircraft can easily pull G's without too much punishment towards the player controlling it. Keep in mind, if you want to take advantage of its speed and manoeuvrability, you will have to keep the aircraft as light as possibile, meaning bringing the minimal amount of fuel. This to some may seem like a disadvantage, but it's most likely the most effective way to get eliminations with the vehicle as it allows the aircraft to remain fast and nimble. Do keep in mind that if you decide not to bring a lot of fuel, you won't be in the battle as long, so make sure to make every second count.
Another thing that people may claim is a disadvantage is the low ammo count; although this is true, doesn't mean the vehicle suffers. The HS 825 cannons are extremely deadly, they have a very high muzzle velocity, which paired up with the hard hitting 30 mm cannons, means that the majority of enemy aircraft you'll face will be destroyed after a small barrage of your main weapon. One of the other many advantages of the Sagittario 2 is its high speed, it can go up to 1,050 km/h in realistic battles. The Sagittario 2 can also work at low altitude, as an AI ground pounder, the main cannons it has access to are just as effective at taking out ground AI targets as they are at taking down air targets. This can be very effective as you can easily take advantage of your speed at the beginning of the match to slip past undetected by enemy aircraft. You could also use this to surprise enemies by flanking them once they've flown past you, unaware that you're actually able to go behind them.
The Sagittario 2 does not have access to any countermeasures so keep that in mind if you choose to bring it in ground RB. Its cannons are enough to easily make make short work for the majority of lightly armoured ground vehicles, such as IFVs and SPAAs. Considering it doesn't have any payload options such as rockets or bombs, you'll have to entirely rely on your main cannons, and that also goes for air vehicles, as you don't have access to air-to-air missiles. It is not recommended to land on short runways, it should be avoided or risk crashing at the end. This also applies for Arcade battles, overall in the Sagittario 2, try at all times to take advantage of your abilities, as its the best way to come on top in duels, and win the match.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Extremely agile, able to outturn most aircraft
- Relatively high top speed for its BR
- 2 x hard hitting 30 mm cannons are excellent at taking down other aircraft
- The HS 825 cannons have a very high muzzle velocity (1,050 m/s)
Cons:
- Limited ammunition capacity, only 120 rpg
- No payload options
- The only available belt is 100% tracers, no armour-piercing ammo
History
Devblog
In the early 1950's, Italian aircraft designers began work on developing a jet aircraft on the basis of a successful pre-war piston-engine race plane, initially with the goal of constructing a pure technology demonstrator. This aircraft - named Sagittario - took to the skies in January 1953, displaying promising performance.
Convinced of the aircraft's potential, the aircraft designers continued work and developed the design further into the Sagittario 2. The new aircraft featured an improved design, a significantly more powerful jet engine and comparably heavy armament for an aircraft of its time. Two prototypes of the Sagittario 2 were built and test flown in 1956.
However, despite its state-of-the-art design and excellent performance, the Sagittario 2 faced many problems during development as its manufacturer - Aerfer - struggled to allocate enough resources into its development. As a result, the aircraft had a drawn out development period which meant that newer aircraft were entering service while the Sagittario 2 was still being tested. Because of this, the Sagittario 2 would fail to enter production as the procurement of the more promising Fiat G.91 was right around the corner.
While not getting past prototype stage, the Sagittario 2 would serve as a basis for the subsequent development of another jet fighter prototype.
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
- [Devblog] Aerfer Sagittario 2: The Legacy Continues
- Official data sheet - more details about the performance
| Italy jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Aerfer | Sagittario 2 · Ariete |
| Fiat | G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 R/4 (Portugal) · G.91 Y · G.91 YS |
| AMX International | AMX |
| Panavia | Tornado ADV · ▄Tornado IDS (1995) |
| Foreign: | |
| Vampire | Vampire FB 52A |
| F-84 | ▄F-84F · ▄F-84G-21-RE |
| F-86 | CL-13 Mk.4 · ▄F-86K |
| F-104 | ▄F-104G · F-104S · ▄F-104S TAF (Turkey) · F-104S.ASA |
| F-16 | ▄F-16A ADF |
| AV-8 | ▄AV-8B Plus |
| Hungary | |
| Mikoyan-Gurevich | ◔MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-17PF · ◔MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◔MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-29 |
| Ilyushin | ◔IL-28 |
| Sukhoi | ◔Su-22M3 |
| Saab | ◔JAS39EBS HU C |
